Monday, March 25, 2013

Grey Wolf Arrested 3/24/13




55 comments:

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I received several communications regarding this news.

If you're one of those who contacted me reagrding GW's arrest... my sincere thanks.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I had to shorten the title of the blog.
It was too long.

It was taking-up way too much space up there...

Doc Sierra said...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I had to shorten the title of the blog. It was too long.
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The Col may be nasty but at least he seems to have inspired the new name.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

LOL

Lauren Webster said...

Heres his arrest info or whatever ya call it:

http://i50.tinypic.com/30clmci.jpg

I got it from Backporch

katie8753 said...

Better watch Charlie closely GW. He's pretty tricky with that Queen.

Checkmate! LOL.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Thanks Lauren.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

He's pretty tricky, with a lot of things. LOL!

katie8753 said...

Hair color brown??? Huh?

Lauren Webster said...

Haha, right? Hes younger than I thought.. I thought he'd be like 70.

katie8753 said...

Body language experts please chime in!

Charlie's all relaxed with his left hand on his leg and his right hand gesturing.

GW docilely has both hands on the table.

Wonder what they're talking about?

Hmmm.....

Charlie: Do you have remorse?

GW: Ummmmmm....what was the question?


HA HA.

katie8753 said...

Yeah Lauren. I was wondering why his alias is Grey Wolf if his hair is brown.

katie8753 said...

Well, at least Charlie looks like he's doing well in that picture. He seems strong, well attention-ed and in control as usual.

Gotta hand it to ole Charlie. He will probably get the last laugh...

matt prokes said...

I wonder how good Manson is at Chess.
Hes had a lot of time to practice.

katie8753 said...

Hi Matt. You're right. Charlie probably knew where to hide that knight. LOL.

Hey check this out. "So Far Away" from Markie Knopler "unplugged". Great stuff. He sings me to sleep. LOL.

Night y'all!! :)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yh8GmbA5p5w

MrPoirot said...

Italy wants to retry Foxy Knoxy a third time. They found out she is Morman.

St. Circumstance said...


They have known about Charlie with the cell phones for a couple of years. Now they have a person who they know is, at least one of those responsible...

So...

Greywolf should never be allowed back in period.If they let him go back and visit Charlie again and anyone is scratching there heads as to how this happens- shame on you...

Most sensible people have figured out for some time how Charlie gets anything done. Its same as it ever was to him. a few people seem to really get off being associated with him, and getting close to the freak... Then and now. human nature wont ever change.

we will never be able to make a dent with him and his sensitivity. But with the law working for us- we should be able to keep the freaks who, for whatever reason,worship him under control.

I get so sick of arguing a lost cause with people who don't think normally...

People wonder why Deb Tate goes through so much to make sure that these jakcasses pay their price when so many people are trying to help them get out of it...

Its a gang mentality she is fighting- she has an army of people telling her to mind her own business, and she is fighting people who are defending the convicts who have never even met them. This was her big sister and hero for gods sake. Would you spend the rest of your life fighting if it happened to someone in your family? I would. and I would go after every last one of those smiling bastards until I got them all. Debs mom took on a cause after this- not just Sharons- but for all victims. She was though of as a hero to most. Why is deb different?

We think she is annoying, too loud, too up front. O.K- so take off points for style, but its the same thing her mom was trying to do- no?

Deb doesn't see individuals. she sees a group. when her sister died and her family was crushed- it wasn't just 3 or 4 people she had to deal with. she saw a group of people. Dancing and smiling around the courthouse. Making thoughtless comments to reporters and her own parents. making further threats. She saw an army of people promising to get us all. she was a young and impressionable age when she did. she must have felt that these scary people were all part of it- they acted like they were. now today it doesn't serve them so they all want to be considered separate and treated individually. they use the very law they mocked to hide behind. I say Deb should use every trick in the book if she wants to. Funny- but back in 1970 I bet that most of them would have laughed at young deb tate if she swore to follow them around for the rest of her life. not so funny now huh??

I am not a Deb fan, but I understand where her attitude comes from....

greywolf should be in a cell next to Charlie. Star should have been put in foster care when she was a youngster and her parents should be looked at closely by child protective services and they should have never been allowed near kids again...

in 1967 it was wrong for Ruth's parents and Diane parents to let there kids go off with charlie. the times are no excuse to me- but I am not naive to the times- i understand it happened.

but for someone to do so in the 80's when we all knew what charlie was about, and he was locked up is CRIMINAL....

Charlie must really be laughing his ass off. How in the world was he getting cell phones??

As usual- someone else will get headlines and possibly some punishment while he sits there telling us he didn't do anything and it wasn't his fault. This time it really isn't. they caught the guy responsible for the problem they have been having- lets see how they handle it...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Hi Poirot.

I know nothing about the Amanda Knox case... but, she's certainly a beautiful girl.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Hi Saint.

Thanks for sharing your opinion.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Italy's highest court has overturned Amanda's acquittal.
A new trial has been ordered.

St. Circumstance said...

If Roman didnt have to come back here..

I would be shot in the head before I would let my daughter go back over there...

that case can go to any court it wants- they have sen the last of he in Italy....

Lauren Webster said...

Actually Saint, Star came from very strict parents and she herself wrote to Manson when she was 16. You could say in a way it was her way of rebellion perhaps but to blame her parents in HER OWN personal interest of Manson is a little much. I'm fairly young as well and I developed an interest in Manson on my own.. Through tv. My parents knew of my interest in Manson and weren't content with at all, but they couldn't stop me from being interested. Does that mean they are bad influences?

katie8753 said...

Hi St! I agree with you completely on your assessment of "minion activity" and Debra Tate.

Debra has acted strangely at times and has missed some of the facts, but you're right...her beautiful sister was murdered and it was the by the actions of a GROUP of people united with the same murderous thoughts. I don't blame her a bit for trying to do everything she can to keep them all locked up.

katie8753 said...

But it is my opinion that Amanda Knox is guilty. I've always thought it was a travesty that they let her go. She laughed and giggled thru her first trial and I guess her attorneys told her to cool it in the second trial.

She's made a lot of money "telling her story".

MrPoirot said...

The Italians can't make up their mind whether to retry Foxy Knoxy in Perugia or Absentia. What a bunch of maroons.

Lynyrd if Charlie can get a smartphone would you let him join your blog and post in here?

St. Circumstance said...

Hi Lauren :)

All due respect ... ( Really no blast coming here)

I also read H/S about the time I was 16 as well....

My parents- your parents - would not have let us leave home and go live with a man 4 times our age in the woods to help support Manson at 16-

if they did- yes then they should not have the right to be parents either in my opinion... mine or yours.

16 years old is not an adult and your parents are still responsible for you when you are that age.

obviously they are not going to be aware of every letter you write- but they are supposed to have an idea who you are running around with, and what type of trouble your getting into....

I realize not everyone has/had great parents, and some might not understand this because taking care of themselves is all they have ever known, but it is still the responsibility of the adults to look out for the children they bring into this world. It is very sad that people have to grow up like that- Star didn't.

You cannot ever tell me that it is o.k. for a grown adult to understand who Charles Manson is- and what he represents and then let your child go off to pursue a life of worship and servitude in his name....

our country cant be that fucked up yet that we think this is o.k...

We have different opinions of what a strict parent is I guess. I grew up near Princeton N.J. when we were 16 girls were not allowed to have boys in there rooms after school. or to go out at all on school nights...

so maybe I am prudish about this, but still- the idea of someone I knew back then even talking about Manson in school would have been scandalous. I just cant understand any reasonable person allowing there 16 or 17 year old to go off and dedicate life to him...

sorry if it is me- just cant get over it.

St. Circumstance said...

Sorry for the long comment lauren- its been ahwile lol

shorter version-

as teenagers...

is there a difference between our parents knowing we read books and watch TV about a subject versus- letting us move out of the house and going off to pursue a career/life in said subject???

that's where I draw the parental responsibility line myself...

at that age I saw movies/read books about and wanted to run away and become....

a Fighter pilot
A circus star
a daredevil
A sword fighter
a military fighter
a crime fighter...
Rockstar
comedian
Mr. Farrah fawcett

none of these were as bad as a Manson follower but I am still glad mom and dad didn't let me go off in any of those directions at that age either...

see my point?

Doc Sierra said...

St. Circumstance said...

a Fighter pilot
A circus star
a daredevil
A sword fighter
a military fighter
a crime fighter...
Rockstar
comedian
Mr. Farrah fawcett
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I still have carpal tunnel syndrome from holding up that poster with one hand when I was a teenager.........

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

LOL!

I KNOW huh?
Remember that red swimsuit, with the nips poking through? LMAO!

That poster must have sold a million copies.

Seriously...
That may be the single best-selling poster of all-time.

SurelyYouJest11 said...

I'm curious as to why the name of Grey Wolf is blacked out on the booking sheet. It is public information I beleive.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

SurelyYouJest11 said:
"I'm curious as to why the name of Grey Wolf is blacked out on the booking sheet. It is public information I beleive".

Yeah... it's probably public information (at this point).

BUT...
It's best to avoid posting names.

If anyone wants to know Grey Wolf's name, they can research that, for themselves.

Doc Sierra said...

St. Circumstance said...

a Fighter pilot
A circus star
a daredevil
A sword fighter
a military fighter
a crime fighter...
Rockstar
comedian
Mr. Farrah fawcett
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Pretty close to my list but I'd add soda jerk and street car conductor to it.......

katie8753 said...

A little more info:

http://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la-me-ln-exclusive-charles-manson-follower-tried-to-smuggle-cellphone-20130326,0,535643.story

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

By Richard Winton
March 26, 2013, 9:22 a.m.

A follower of Charles Manson has been arrested for allegedly trying to smuggle a cellphone to the cult leader at Corcoran State Prison

Craig Carlisle Hammond, 63, was arrested Sunday on charges of possession of an illegal communication device, attempting to bring a cellphone into a prison and conspiracy, said Terry Thornton, a California Department of Corrections and Rehabiltation spokeswoman.

Hammond, a retiree, was searched and subsequently arrested at 3:35 p.m. and taken to a King County Jail, where he was released four hours later on $30,000. He is due in court next month.

Manson sees few visitors, but Hammond is among his regulars. Hammond controls a copyright on Manson's music and is a self-described follower of the the inmate.

A Manson website maintained by followers and believers of Manson's ATWA group --an acronym for Air, Trees, Water, Animals -- reported that Gray Wolf was detained at Level 4 visitation entrance. According to the website, Manson was meeting with another friend when Gray Wolf was detained by guards. Manson and the two visitors were subsequently searched and the two visitors also consented to their vehicles being searched. Gray Wolf was then taken into custody and asked for a lawyer, according to the website.

Lauren Webster said...

I see what you're saying now, Saint. I get ya:). I read Star used to work at a fast food place then moved to be closer to Manson. As for Greywolf, this wasnt his first offense. He had a loitering charge with all the girls and failed to appear.

St. Circumstance said...

I truly would give anything for a sit down with grey wolf and star. I have tried to email and politely ask questions, and I never get a reply.

It would be hard for them to talk to me- I understand. I am able to ask reasonable questions in a calm polite manner....

they don't have good answers for me and they aren't to dumb that they don't know the way they live their lives is very controversial.

It is very easy to say we are making our own free choice, and we aren't hurting anyone or breaking any laws...

until you do something stupid and get caught...

Grey wolf lives a life similar to star and the other girls when they were young stupid and easily influenced...

but he is a grown man and really ought to know better...

I would love the chance to talk with these people and understand where it comes from???

katie8753 said...

It says he's retired. I wonder what he's retired from? Whatever he retired from, it was kind of early retirement....

Mrstormsurge said...

Katie, I'm gonna guess he was a brain surgeon

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

LOL!

katie8753 said...

Stormy HA HA. Maybe he was a burned out Rocket Scientist.

HA HA HA.

I'm guessing that he never worked long enough to get retirement. Just living off the State of California.

Just my guess.

starship said...

Any of you all ever notice the subliminally placed S-E-X in Farrah's hair on the poster? Or did your eyes not make it up that far?

Mrstormsurge said...

There's a clear image of a smoking infant between her bosoms. To me this is the sign that she was ready for me to take her.

Doc Sierra said...

starship said...

Any of you all ever notice the subliminally placed S-E-X in Farrah's hair on the poster? Or did your eyes not make it up that far?
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Unfortunately, due to my "over-use" of the poster, my vision was too poor to notice such detail. Dad was right.....

A.C. Fisher-Aldag said...

St. Circumstance, should your parents be locked up for "allowing" you to use illegal drugs?

Star was 19, an adult, able to make her own decisions, when she moved to CA and became involved w/ Charles.

And SHE is not breaking the law.

Are YOU???

A.C. Fisher-Aldag said...

Gray Wolf was a self-employed contractor who did home improvement on the East Coast for many years... NOT a Welfare Slacker.

I'd be awfully proud of a youngster who was / is an environmental activist.

St. Circumstance said...

I like your new picture AC- stunning!

Activist is not what greywolf is, nor Star either for that matter. they are Charlie parrots and if he was into something else- then that's what they would be preaching about as well...

They could find other people who could put them in a much better position than Charles to do things which could really help the environment.

My parents were no longer in my life when I first tried drugs. I loved them - but on a scale of 1-10 they were about a 5 or 6...

I was on my own at a younger age than Star was - and did get into drinking and smoking when I was about 17 or 18- but I never let it get in the way of leading a productive life...

Had I led a life of crime or hurt anyone- my parents would have been partly responsible for letting a child grow up on his own and having not boundaries or rules...

but we all got lucky that I was too much of a wuss to ever want to take the chance of getting in any serious trouble- because I didn't want to go to jail...

They have the wrong kind of bars there :)

sunset77 said...

There is a bit of an update on the arrest story on the "Manson Direct" website, it says in part:

"Manson’s close friend, Star, was sitting with Charlie at a table in the PHU visiting room at the time of Gray Wolf’s detainment. Within minutes, visiting Sergeant Fritz entered the room and accosted Star at the table, demanding that she stand, put her hands behind her back, and submit to being handcuffed."

The entire story can be read HERE

It's been a long time since I've seen you on these blogs AC Fisher-Aldag, I'm glad you are back.

katie8753 said...

Hi AC! I like your new avatar too!!! :)

Gray Wolf was a self-employed contractor who did home improvement on the East Coast for many years... NOT a Welfare Slacker.

Hmmmm...self employed contractor usually means no one will hire him. I don't know about you, but I've had dealings with "self employed contractors" and the result was half of the work was done when I made half of the payment, and I had to get another contractor finish it.

If he as gainfully employed on the East Coast, why go back to the West Coast and suck up to Charlie?

I'd be awfully proud of a youngster who was / is an environmental activist.

I would too. I'd be more proud of a youngster who decided to donate his time to Meals On Wheels or St. Jude's, who helps children with severe medical disabilities and parents who can't pay the high costs.

What has Grey (Gray?) Wolf or Star done for the environment? It looks like they're just glomming onto Charlie.

katie8753 said...

I know this is off topic, but if any of you out there are looking for a charity to donate to for tax purposes, please consider St. Jude's to donate to. There are so many low income families who have children with disabilities that are expensive to treat, and St. Jude's works long and hard to help these people out. It was started by Danny Thomas years ago and is still going strong.

Also, you can donate to the Ronald McDonald houses, which lets families stay for free when they have to travel out of town for their children's treatments, which could last for days or weeks.

AC, Love you. Just remember some things are more important than Charlie fans.

Doc Sierra said...

Good to see you here AC.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Nice to see you AC!!

Lookin' Good!

SurelyYouJest11 said...

Katie said: "Hmmmm...self employed contractor usually means no one will hire him."

I disagree Katie. I know many self-employed contractors who have booming, well run, businesses. That is a pretty wide brush you are painting with there.

katie8753 said...

Hi Surely. No offense intended. I guess I've just had a lot of bad experiences with contractors.

louis365 said...

Good to see you are back AC.

SurelyYouJest11 said...

No offense taken Katie. :)