James Dinwiddie, Friend to Gary Hinman, Suggests New Theory of Motive in his Murder
This man claims he knew Hinman back in the summer of '69, and this is what he says about the interactions between Hinman and the Family:
https://buddhajim.com/2014/01/30/how-i-met-buddha-the-untold-story-of-the-manson-family-murders/
(from January 30, 2014)
Excerpt:
"Gary informed me... This (Manson) gang had been extorting things – food, cars, money – from his isolated neighborhood in the name of “peace and love”. These freeloading “flower children” were especially interested in his VW minibus, and had somehow concluded that he “owed” it to them. That’s what the heated discussion was all about. ....
"Gary waged a campaign in the neighborhood to end the commune’s constant panhandling, going through garbage cans, expecting handouts and outright gifts of things like cars and clothes, and otherwise demanding that the community accept their “everything belongs to everyone” attitude. According to Gary, they were quite criminal in their behavior, and he was trying to get people to stop supporting them with extorted guilty gifts. ...
"Gary and his neighbor were discussing the ongoing problem of the commune at the Spahn ranch, and the neighbor let me know that Charlie’s “family” had threatened to burn Gary’s house down and destroy him as part of their apocalyptic fantasy."
So the motive was then revenge for Hinman's trash-talking of the Family. This sounds much better as a plausible motive than the 'bad drugs' or 'inheritance theory' that we hear of.
His account first appeared in a book he wrote-The Johari Mirror and Other Stories--copywrighted in 2006. Why has it taken so long for us to hear this version? The detectives would certainly have discovered this feud between Gary and the Mansonoids. Why cover it up? I suspect the reason is to hide an even more shocking fact: that Gary Hinman went to the sheriff's deputies with his concerns. Which means of course that Charlie would have been Suspect #1 after Hinman's body was discovered on July 31, 1969.
Police noticed Hinman's stolen red VW van at Spahns when they did their July 27, 1969 mini-raid.
Sanders' The Family, pg250
"When they called in the license number and it came back as belonging to Hinman, one of the officers said: "Hey, I know Hinman; he must be out here visiting."
Did this officer know Hinman because he helped handle the alleged original Hinman complaint?
Author Ed Sanders claims Hinman got an oblique death threat from Charlie just days before he was killed:
The Family, pg243
"About four days before Gary Hinman was murdered, (his friend)Eric ... visited Hinman's house at 964 Old Topanga Canyon Road. When he entered the small hillside house he found Gary Hinman on the phone, arguing with Manson. He says: "When I came into the house they were arguing. ....they were in a heated discussion... I talked to Gary afterwards to verify what Charlie said-- He said, you know, like it's your last chance, Gary. And Gary responded to that: "I'm sorry, Charlie, I'm not going to sell all my things and come and follow you.' Those were his exact words.
"And so Charlie said, in response to that, that he couldn't be responsible then for the karma that Gary was going to incur. He then reiterated that it was his last chance. And Gary said, 'I'll decide.... I'll take care of my own karma.' "
This new theory of motive also lines up with accounts that show that Charlie had already made up his mind to kill Hinman before there was talk of getting any money:
www.cielodrive.com/updates/coming-january-13th-14th-audio-archives-danny-decarlo-interviewed-by-the-los-angeles-county-sheriffs-department/
Danny DeCarlo:
"And that was the idea. Get everything he owned. ‘Cause they talked about him before, as being a Political Piggy. See, a political fuck up. “Gary’s fucked up in his head, he’s a pig, he’s gotta go. He’s just like society, part of society, so let’s get rid of him. First lets get his money.”
web.archive.org/web/20140209204015/http://truthontatelabianca.com/threads/true-detective-1970.2881/
DeCarlo said that for several days before the death of Hinman he had overheard conversation between Beausoleil and Manson in which they referred to Hinman as a "political pig who should die."
The Family, by Ed Sanders
pg243
"On Thursday, July 24, Manson sent Ella Bailey aka Ella Sinder, over to Gary Hinman's house to get the money and then to kill him. Miss Sinder had been a close friend of Hinman. Although she was a long-time Manson follower, she was not willing to snuff anybody for him."
www.cielodrive.com/People-V-Manson-Vol-33.pdf
"Miss Bailey, directing your attention to this occasion when you were at the campsite in Devil's Canyon, in the latter part of July, 1969, during that conversation--during the one in which you suggested Gary Hinman's name as somebody who might come with the Family... ...was there any conversation or any statements made during that conversation at the campsite .. in which someone said.. that Gary Hinman was to be killed?"
(Ella Jo denied it, but clearly the investigators had received info that such a conversation had occurred.)
Child of Satan, Child of God by Atkins, Susan, with Slosser, Bob (1977). Plainfield, NJ: Logos International. pp. 94–120
... Manson directly told Beausoleil, Brunner, and her to go to Hinman's and get the supposed inheritance—$21,000. She(Sadie) said Manson had told her privately, two days earlier, that, if she wanted to "do something important", she could kill Hinman and get his money.
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PAUL WATKINS, My Life With Charles Manson, Chapter Eight
"Bobby ... in the summer of 1969, when he came for the last time, his welcome was worn out. He told Charlie he’d do anything for the Family; that’s when Charlie told him: “Then you know what to do with Gary Hinman.” Hinman had been an acquaintance of Charlie’s, a musician who had apparently owed Charlie money and had refused to pay it back. Two weeks later, Gary Hinman was dead."
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Tuesday, July 16, 2019
Tuesday, February 23, 2016
Gary Hinman's Murder
Okay, let's weigh in on this subject. Was Gary Hinman killed because Manson thought he had "inherited money", had a home, had "lots of stocks and bonds", and had 2 broken down cars. OR...
Was Gary killed because he sold some bad dope to Bobby, who sold it to the motorcycle group, who later puked and said they'd been poisoned by said bad dope. (Like a motorcycle gang had never puked before, LOL).
Well, there's no proof of either theory.
When we talk about "getting money" we're talking about Manson being desperate to leave the LA area and go to the desert. Why does it cost $5000 to go to the desert? I don't know. I would think that was cheap, but maybe he's thinking about overhead.
You know, supporting 25 or 30 people in the desert for years, food, water, gasoline to make trips, expensive grocery purchases (that famous trip to the grocery store! LOL). It would take a few years for the clan to know he was lying about the "hole in the desert".
Evidently, to manufacture bad dope, you don't need any fancy equipment, just some pots and pans, a roll of string, some Bandaids, some fingernail polish, a mouse trap, some pretzels, a burned out "D" battery, a couple of bobby pins, 2 teaspoons of Anacanapanasan and some scotch tape. I would throw in the Kitchen Sink, but it was shot by a stray bullet.
Wow, it's that easy to make drugs? Then why do the crack heads steal things to buy it? Why not just make it? Or why didn't the motorcycle gang just make their own and save $1,000.00? I don't know.
Oh well, let's debate...
Was Gary killed because he sold some bad dope to Bobby, who sold it to the motorcycle group, who later puked and said they'd been poisoned by said bad dope. (Like a motorcycle gang had never puked before, LOL).
Well, there's no proof of either theory.
When we talk about "getting money" we're talking about Manson being desperate to leave the LA area and go to the desert. Why does it cost $5000 to go to the desert? I don't know. I would think that was cheap, but maybe he's thinking about overhead.
You know, supporting 25 or 30 people in the desert for years, food, water, gasoline to make trips, expensive grocery purchases (that famous trip to the grocery store! LOL). It would take a few years for the clan to know he was lying about the "hole in the desert".
Evidently, to manufacture bad dope, you don't need any fancy equipment, just some pots and pans, a roll of string, some Bandaids, some fingernail polish, a mouse trap, some pretzels, a burned out "D" battery, a couple of bobby pins, 2 teaspoons of Anacanapanasan and some scotch tape. I would throw in the Kitchen Sink, but it was shot by a stray bullet.
Wow, it's that easy to make drugs? Then why do the crack heads steal things to buy it? Why not just make it? Or why didn't the motorcycle gang just make their own and save $1,000.00? I don't know.
Oh well, let's debate...
Wednesday, December 2, 2015
Gary Hinman's House
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| Photo Courtesy of Cielodrive.com |
We all know that Gary Hinman was a music teacher/UCLA student, living at 964 Old Topanga Canyon Rd.
And we all know that there are two theories about this murder: (1) Charlie thought Gary had money because of an inheritance, or because he owned property, i.e., his house & cars & (2) Gary had sold Bobby some bad dope that he made in his basement and Bobby wanted his money back.
I tend to believe the first theory. I think Bobby made the second theory up when his other lies ran out.
BUT...
Did Gary actually OWN that house, or was he just renting it??
Ed Sanders says in "The Family" that on July 26, 1969, a young man came over to Gary's house with the intention of asking if he could rent the first floor. I love Ed Sanders, but I have to say, I'm not quite sure if everything in his book is accurate.
But why would that guy want to "rent" part of Gary's "rent house"? That doesn't make sense.
I personally tend to think that Gary was renting that house. I can't see him having enough income as a music teacher to purchase a 2600+ square foot home. But I could be wrong. Does anyone know if Gary owned this home?
I've read where this house is in Topanga, CA and also in Malibu, CA. A wiki search shows it's in Los Angeles County, but I couldn't find a record of it in property searches.
Now I read somewhere (I know that's lame that I can't say where, but I can't) that Gary's house didn't have a basement, that in fact, the living area of Gary's house was on the 2nd floor, and the 1st floor was considered "a basement/storage area". You can see in the picture that the steps lead to a door on the 2nd floor.
If so, the supposed "dope lab" would have to have been on the 1st floor. But there is no mention in the police report of any dope making contraptions in Gary's house, so I tend to believe he wasn't making any.
The house has since been extensively renovated. In fact, it's not even recognizable anymore. Even the landscaping looks incredibly different. Maude provided me this link showing what this property looks like now. Thanks Maude! BTW, it doesn't mention a basement. It also says it has 2 bedrooms, and then 3 bedrooms???
964 Old Topanga Canyon Rd Topanga, CA 90290 Est. $949,896
Property Details
964 Old Topanga Canyon Rd, Topanga, CA 90290. This
Single Family Home is located at Old Topanga Canyon in Topanga,
California. The home provides approximately 2609 square feet of living
space. This property features 2 bedrooms. There are 2 bathrooms. 964 Old
Topanga Canyon Rd, Topanga, CA 90290 falls within the Los Angeles
county lines. This home sold for $775,000 on Mar 4, 2013. Similar homes
in the area are priced around $949,896.
Public Records Property Information from local public records.
- Beds 3 Bed
- House Size 2,609 Sq Ft
- Year Built 1934
- Property Type Single Family Home
- Style Not Available
- Units 1
- Pool -
- Heating Central
- Rooms -
- Fireplace -
- Baths -
- Lot Size 0.3 Acres
- Price -
- Stories -
- Garage -
- Cooling Central
- Construction Unknown
- Year Renovated 1989
- Roofing -
Sunday, December 14, 2014
Denver resident seeks to block parole of Manson family killer
By Tom McGhee
Kay
Martley remembers cousin Gary Hinman lowering his lanky, adolescent
frame onto a bench and ripping through a classical piano repertoire as
he entertained at family gatherings in his Fort Collins home.
It isn't easy to reconcile that vibrant image with the autopsy report describing the multiple knife wounds and decomposing body after the musician became the first known fatality tied to Charles Manson and his followers.
In the 45 years since a knife to the heart ended Hinman's life, California's Board of Parole Hearings on three separate occasions has decided that Manson family member Bruce Davis, who was involved in the murder, was sufficiently rehabilitated to go free.
Each time, a California governor — first Arnold Schwarzenegger, then Jerry Brown — overturned the board decision.
Davis,
72, remains locked up in the California Men's Colony in San Luis
Obispo, Calif., serving the life sentence a jury gave him 42 years
ago, despite his claims of rehabilitation.
That is where he belongs, said Martley, a Denver resident who says she is already dreading another parole hearing next year. She recently asked the parole board to deny Davis' bid for release.
"None of the members of the Manson family should ever be released into society. The horrific way my cousin was murdered should not be forgotten. Gary was brutally tortured for three days, then murdered and his body left to decompose. Parole is not justice for Gary Hinman," Martley wrote in a Nov. 23 letter to the board.
Hinman was a music teacher who moved to California, where he befriended the Manson family. He allowed Davis and others to stay at his home.
California's Board of Parole Hearings recently advised Martley that Davis has asked the board to fast-track his next parole-suitability hearing, which would normally be held no sooner than next September.
Behind bars, Davis earned a Ph.D. in the philosophy of religion, married, fathered a child, divorced, became a born-again Christian and stopped using drugs. Now, he ministers to other prisoners.
"Gary is gone, he has nothing. They took all his privileges away for life. It makes me mad that they let (Davis) get married and have conjugal rights. He is rehabilitated in prison? Let him work with prisoners," she said.
Hinman's death, in July 1969, was a big blow to a family that over four generations had carved a comfortable place for themselves in Colorado.
The fathers of Martley and Hinman formed Hinman Brothers Construction, a company involved in the building of the Platoro Dam in the San Luis Valley in the late 1940s.
Another uncle, Wallace Hinman of Yampa, served in the state legislature.
"The whole family was devastated. We are Coloradans. We didn't have people murdered in our family. We were taxpayers, productive citizens. We owned ranches, businesses. It was unbelievable it could happen to members of our family."
When Martley attended Davis' March parole hearing at the California Men's Colony, it was the first time a member of Hinman's family went to any of Davis' more than 25 such hearings.
Hinman's parents are dead, and a sister who received death threats at the time of the trial stayed away because she didn't want to relive the past, Martley said.
"His sister said, 'I don't want to dig it up. I'm afraid. It was awful at the time of the trial. I don't want anything to do with it,' " Martley recalled.
Debra Tate, sister of Manson family murder victim Sharon Tate, has attended every parole hearing for each of the Manson family members.
"I think there are circumstances where first-degree murder is committed and it is unlikely to reoccur. One does their time and they are very unlikely to go back into a situation where it is likely to repeat," Tate said.
But the members of the Manson family are domestic terrorists and serial murderers, and remain dangerous in spite of their age, Tate said.
"My sister would be 72 in January. I think she would be quite disgusted at the possibility of folks like this getting out," she said.
Davis didn't go on the murderous expedition that the Manson followers made to actress Sharon Tate's home, where they butchered her and four others. Nor was he involved in the killings of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca one day later.
But a Los Angeles jury found him guilty of participating in the murder of both Hinman and movie stuntman Donald "Shorty" Shea, who was hacked to death because Manson believed he was an informer.
Three times, the parole board found that Davis made strides toward rehabilitation while in prison and is no longer a threat to society, said Bill Sessa, spokesman for the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.
Hinman "was a nerdy kid, smart," who played piano and a number of other instruments, Martley said.
In California, he moved into a house in the hills above Los Angeles and got involved in the free-wheeling music scene.
"He had no problems as a kid, but when he got to California, then he got into drugs," Martley said.
Hinman, who was 34 when he was killed, eventually gave up the drugs and became a Buddhist, Martley said.
His Roman Catholic parents decided to take him to Japan, where he could further explore Buddhism, Martley said.
"They felt like they were supporting him since he had cleaned up from drugs," Martley said.
On July 27, 1969, Hinman was stabbed to death.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_27132037/denver-resident-seeks-block-parole-manson-family-killer
The Denver Post
Posted:
12/14/2014 12:01:00 AM MST
It isn't easy to reconcile that vibrant image with the autopsy report describing the multiple knife wounds and decomposing body after the musician became the first known fatality tied to Charles Manson and his followers.
In the 45 years since a knife to the heart ended Hinman's life, California's Board of Parole Hearings on three separate occasions has decided that Manson family member Bruce Davis, who was involved in the murder, was sufficiently rehabilitated to go free.
Each time, a California governor — first Arnold Schwarzenegger, then Jerry Brown — overturned the board decision.
That is where he belongs, said Martley, a Denver resident who says she is already dreading another parole hearing next year. She recently asked the parole board to deny Davis' bid for release.
"None of the members of the Manson family should ever be released into society. The horrific way my cousin was murdered should not be forgotten. Gary was brutally tortured for three days, then murdered and his body left to decompose. Parole is not justice for Gary Hinman," Martley wrote in a Nov. 23 letter to the board.
Hinman was a music teacher who moved to California, where he befriended the Manson family. He allowed Davis and others to stay at his home.
California's Board of Parole Hearings recently advised Martley that Davis has asked the board to fast-track his next parole-suitability hearing, which would normally be held no sooner than next September.
Behind bars, Davis earned a Ph.D. in the philosophy of religion, married, fathered a child, divorced, became a born-again Christian and stopped using drugs. Now, he ministers to other prisoners.
"Gary is gone, he has nothing. They took all his privileges away for life. It makes me mad that they let (Davis) get married and have conjugal rights. He is rehabilitated in prison? Let him work with prisoners," she said.
Hinman's death, in July 1969, was a big blow to a family that over four generations had carved a comfortable place for themselves in Colorado.
The fathers of Martley and Hinman formed Hinman Brothers Construction, a company involved in the building of the Platoro Dam in the San Luis Valley in the late 1940s.
Another uncle, Wallace Hinman of Yampa, served in the state legislature.
"The whole family was devastated. We are Coloradans. We didn't have people murdered in our family. We were taxpayers, productive citizens. We owned ranches, businesses. It was unbelievable it could happen to members of our family."
When Martley attended Davis' March parole hearing at the California Men's Colony, it was the first time a member of Hinman's family went to any of Davis' more than 25 such hearings.
Hinman's parents are dead, and a sister who received death threats at the time of the trial stayed away because she didn't want to relive the past, Martley said.
"His sister said, 'I don't want to dig it up. I'm afraid. It was awful at the time of the trial. I don't want anything to do with it,' " Martley recalled.
Debra Tate, sister of Manson family murder victim Sharon Tate, has attended every parole hearing for each of the Manson family members.
"I think there are circumstances where first-degree murder is committed and it is unlikely to reoccur. One does their time and they are very unlikely to go back into a situation where it is likely to repeat," Tate said.
But the members of the Manson family are domestic terrorists and serial murderers, and remain dangerous in spite of their age, Tate said.
"My sister would be 72 in January. I think she would be quite disgusted at the possibility of folks like this getting out," she said.
Davis didn't go on the murderous expedition that the Manson followers made to actress Sharon Tate's home, where they butchered her and four others. Nor was he involved in the killings of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca one day later.
But a Los Angeles jury found him guilty of participating in the murder of both Hinman and movie stuntman Donald "Shorty" Shea, who was hacked to death because Manson believed he was an informer.
Three times, the parole board found that Davis made strides toward rehabilitation while in prison and is no longer a threat to society, said Bill Sessa, spokesman for the California Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation.
Hinman "was a nerdy kid, smart," who played piano and a number of other instruments, Martley said.
In California, he moved into a house in the hills above Los Angeles and got involved in the free-wheeling music scene.
"He had no problems as a kid, but when he got to California, then he got into drugs," Martley said.
Hinman, who was 34 when he was killed, eventually gave up the drugs and became a Buddhist, Martley said.
His Roman Catholic parents decided to take him to Japan, where he could further explore Buddhism, Martley said.
"They felt like they were supporting him since he had cleaned up from drugs," Martley said.
On July 27, 1969, Hinman was stabbed to death.
http://www.denverpost.com/news/ci_27132037/denver-resident-seeks-block-parole-manson-family-killer
Tuesday, March 29, 2011
Court Transcript - Hinman Case (Motive - Money)
People v. Manson , 71 Cal.App.3d 1
[Crim. No. 21765. Court of Appeals of California, Second Appellate District, Division One. June 23, 1977.]
THE PEOPLE, Plaintiff and Respondent, v. CHARLES M. MANSON, Defendant and Appellant
(Opinion by Loring, J., with Wood, P. J., and Hanson, J., concurring.)
Charles M. Manson (Manson), Susan Denise Atkins (Atkins) and Bruce McGregor Davis (Davis) were indicted by the grand jury for the murder of Gary Allan Hinman (Hinman) on July 27, 1969, in violation of Penal Code section 187 (count I); count II charged that Manson, Atkins and Davis entered into a conspiracy to commit murder and robbery on or about the "25th through the 28th day of July 1969 in violation of Penal Code section 182.1." Three overt acts were alleged: (a) that on or about July 25, 1969, they "did travel to the vicinity of 964 Old Topanga Canyon Road, Malibu, in the County of Los Angeles" (b) on or about July 26, 1969, they entered the residence at the same address (c) on or about July 26, 1969, Manson and Davis "did drive away" from the same address in a Fiat automobile owned by Hinman. Count III of the indictment charged Manson, Davis and Steve Grogan (Grogan) with the murder of Donald Jerome (Shorty) Shea (Shea) "between the 16th day of August, 1969 and the 1st day of September, 1969" in violation of Penal Code section 187
The trial of Manson was severed from the trial of the other defendants. fn. 1
Manson made a number of motions prior to or during the trial (all of which were denied): (1) to represent himself as his own lawyer or as cocounsel; (2) to disqualify the trial judge; (3) dismissal; (4) to plead once in jeopardy; (5) change of venue; (6) to sequester jury; (7) to [71 Cal.App.3d 12] exclude evidence. He also filed a demurrer to the indictment and challenges to the grand jury which were overruled..
A. Hinman Murder
Paul Piet, Los Angeles County Deputy Sheriff, testified that in response to a call from Michael Erwin he arrived at 964 Old Topanga Canyon Road in Malibu on July 31, 1969. He discovered the body of Hinman lying on the floor of the living-bedroom-type room. It was badly decomposed. Investigation disclosed a bullet hole in the kitchen cabinets. Near the body were Buddhist prayer beads known as "Jizu." Blood was on the body and clothing and splattered around the inside of the house on the walls and furniture. Written in apparent blood on the living room wall were the words "Political Piggy" and a drawing that appeared to be like a paw print of an animal.
An autopsy established that Hinman had been stabbed twice in the chest; that the cause of death was a stab wound through the heart. There was a large cut on the left side of the face through the left ear to the left lip of the mouth, which could have been caused by a sword. [71 Cal.App.3d 13]
On and for some time prior to September 1, 1969, Manson was the leader of the so-called "Manson family." People v. Manson, supra, 61 Cal.App.3d 102, describes the composition, activities and modus operandi of the Manson family and need not be repeated here.
A fingerprint of Beausoleil, who was a member of the "Manson family," was found in Hinman's house on a door frame between the kitchen and the hall. A nine millimeter bullet was recovered from under the sink which could have been fired from a nine millimeter Radom gun. Hinman's Fiat station wagon was seen at the Spahn Ranch, where the Manson family lived, fn. 4 on July 28, 1969, by Deputy Sheriff George D. Grapp and other officers.
Beausoleil was found in the Hinman Fiat station wagon on Highway 101 in the San Luis Obispo area on August 6, 1969, by Forest J. Humphry of the Highway Patrol. Beausoleil was arrested. After Hinman's Fiat was impounded, officers found a knife in the rear spare tire well under a rubber mat.
Ella Jo Bailey testified for the People that she had known Manson since 1967 and travelled extensively throughout the southwestern United States with him, Mary Brunner, Patricia Krenwinkel and Lynne Fromme, and that they moved to the Spahn Ranch in 1968 where she met Davis and Beausoleil. Several times during May and June 1969, Manson talked to Bailey and others about "going out" to get money to buy dune buggies to go to the desert to live. In July of 1969 Manson talked to several members of the family about the need to get money and names were discussed of various persons from whom they could get money. Hinman's name was discussed and the fact that he owned a house and stocks and bonds. On July 26, 1969, Manson told Bailey and Bill Vance that he wanted them to go to Hinman's house and persuade him to join the "family" or sign over all of his property and automobiles. Vance said he had better things to do and walked away. That night at about 6 p.m. Bailey saw Manson talking to Beausoleil and Davis. Beausoleil had a knife (People's exh. 18) and Davis had a nine millimeter Radom gun (People's exh. 30). Subsequent investigation by officers established that Davis had purchased the gun under an assumed name. Bailey saw Brunner and Atkins dressed in dark clothes. Bailey saw Brunner, Atkins, Beausoleil and a fourth unidentified person drive off in [71 Cal.App.3d 14] a ranchhand's car which was driven by the fourth person. Davis was still in the parking lot.
Two nights later Bailey saw Brunner and Atkins drive up to the Spahn Ranch in a Volkswagen microbus which Bailey had previously seen in the possession of Hinman. Bailey went with Brunner in the microbus to a eucalyptus grove on the Spahn Ranch. Bailey observed that there was no key in the microbus and the ignition wires had been wired together. On the seat of the microbus Bailey saw a purse with $27.64 in it. With Bailey's help, Brunner wiped off the microbus. The next morning Bailey saw Hinman's Fiat station wagon at the Spahn Ranch. Later that morning Bailey saw Manson in the presence of about six other people carrying a sword. Bailey testified:
"Charles [Manson] stated that after the phone call had come to the ranch asking for help, fn. [5] he and Bruce Davis had gone to Gary Hinman's house, and he stated at the time that they arrived, Mary [Brunner] and Sadie [Atkins] and Bobby [Beausoleil] had gotten the gun back away from Gary Hinman.
"He stated that he had words with Mr. Hinman, and they had a heated argument, and then it became necessary for him to quiet Gary Hinman down, and he stated that he used a sword and cut Gary Hinman from his left ear down to his chin. ...
"He also said that he had quieted Gary down, and the girls put Gary in bed, and that Mr. Hinman asked for his prayer beads and after that he said that he had left Bobby to finish up. ...
"He said that two or three shots had been fired at the house. He also said that Bobby was foolish to ever let Sadie hold the gun on Mr. Hinman. ...
"He said that all they had gained from going to Gary's house were the two vehicles and around $27."
Alan Leroy Springer testified that he spent a night at the Spahn Ranch about August 10 or 11, 1969. In effect Manson tried to recruit him to join the family. Manson explained how they got things: "Well, we will go up to the door and knock on the door of their houses, and when they come [71 Cal.App.3d 15] to the door and open it up, ... we'll just do them in or stick them. ... Everything behind the door is yours, then, ... for the taking." Manson said that he had "whacked a guy's ear off; ... a Hinman." Manson said that he took Hinman's truck away from him. Manson said: "Well, we cut this guy's ear off" and somebody asked "Who was that?" and Manson said "That was Hinman."
On August 10, 1971, while the instant case was on trial, during the testimony of Springer and while the prosecutor and Manson's lawyer were at the bench conferring with the judge, Manson who was seated at counsel table leaned over to Sergeant Paul J. Whiteley, fn. 6 who was also seated at counsel table and said (according to Whiteley's testimony): "Springer is lying. I've never met the man. He just jumped on." Whiteley said: "I didn't put you at the Hinman house. Mary Brunner did." Whiteley then testified further:
"And then Mr. Manson stated, 'Sure, I went to Hinman's house and got the gun and sliced his ear. I don't deny that. I told Bobby [Beausoleil] how to stand up like a man. He had a woman's thoughts. I told him what to do -- no. [Interruption] ...
"Uh -- 'I told him what to do. Hinman deserved to die. He was selling bad dope.'
"And then there was a pause, and he said, 'He was greasy.'
"And that's the end of the statement."
Whiteley's testimony was corroborated by the testimony of Officer Clifford Patrick Blackburn who overheard the counsel table conversation between Manson and Whiteley except that Blackburn testified that Manson said: "... I held the gun on him, and -- I told Bobby ... [Bobby Beausoleil] -- to kill him. And I even showed him how to do it. ... it wasn't really a conversation. ... Manson did all the talking." When the court was trying to determine whether Manson's statements to Whiteley were made voluntarily, Blackburn testified in chambers that about a week previously Manson had made a similar voluntary statement to Whiteley. [71 Cal.App.3d 16]
When Manson testified fn. 7 in support of a motion to suppress the testimony of Whiteley and Blackburn, he also corroborated the conversation stating: "In general Mr. Whiteley's statements were right. ..." He admitted going to Hinman's house, that he took the gun away from the guy "... and I had to cut him." and he requested the girls to stay there and clean the place up and clean Hinman up. Manson testified that he didn't look at Whiteley as "anything but a brain that I could program. And I dropped a lot of information in his head that would be useful to me later on." Manson testified that he talked to Whiteley "Every chance I get." Some of the conversations occurred in the presence of Manson's lawyer. The court concluded that Manson's statements to Whiteley were not solicited by Whiteley and that they were freely and voluntarily given by Manson for some purpose of his own, and that they were spontaneous. The court said that it had witnessed conversations between Manson and Whiteley at counsel table while Manson's lawyer was seated between them. [71 Cal.App.3d 17]
Marius John Arneson testified that in 1969 he lived at the Spahn Ranch, that he left the ranch and returned in late July or August 1969, that Beausoleil drove him and Manson in a white Fiat station wagon to look at a Volkswagen microbus which was on the Spahn Ranch, that Manson gave him Hinman's Volkswagen microbus which had to be "hotwired" to drive, that Manson gave him a pink slip and instructed him that if he ever got in a hassle over the registration to say that he had gotten it from a Gary Hinman who was supposed to be a Black Panther.
Brunner was called as a witness by the People. By means of prior inconsistent statements (a transcript of her testimony at the trial of People v. Beausoleil, supra), fn. 8 the People established that in the latter part of July 1969, around midnight, Brunner, Beausoleil and Atkins were driven to Hinman's house by Davis. Beausoleil asked Hinman for money. Hinman said he did not have any. Beausoleil pulled a gun. Beausoleil and Hinman got in a fight in the kitchen. Beausoleil hit Hinman over the head more than once with the gun. Hinman's head was cut and bleeding. Beausoleil asked Brunner to clean up Hinman and gave Atkins the gun to hold on Hinman. Beausoleil went into the living room. Hinman took the gun away from Atkins. Beausoleil returned to the kitchen and resumed the fight with Hinman. During the struggle the gun discharged and a bullet went under the sink. Manson and Davis entered the house. Manson had a sword. Manson and Hinman struggled in the living room. Brunner was in the kitchen. Manson came into the kitchen with his finger cut. Brunner bandaged Manson's finger and went into the living room where Atkins was bandaging Hinman's ear. Hinman's ear was cut in two and he had a cut running down his cheek. Manson and Davis left Hinman's home in Hinman's Fiat station wagon. Atkins, Brunner and Beausoleil stayed at Hinman's house Saturday and Sunday for two days and nights. During this period Atkins answered the telephone and, using an English accent, told the callers that Hinman had gone to Colorado because one of his parents was sick.
Jay Hofstadter and Richard Siegel testified that they telephoned the Hinman home. Hofstadter testified that he telephoned Saturday, July 26, 1969, that a female answered the phone and said that Hinman had gone back to Colorado because his parents had gotten in an automobile accident. The girl said she came from London. She spoke with a British [71 Cal.App.3d 18] accent. Siegel called on Sunday, July 27, 1969. Siegel testified to the same effect.
Brunner's prior testimony also established that during the two-day period that Atkins, Brunner and Beausoleil stayed at Hinman's house, Hinman lay bleeding and sleeping. Atkins, Brunner and Beausoleil searched the house for things of value. They found "about twenty bucks" and two pink slips and two white slips to the cars. Beausoleil had Hinman endorse the pink slips. While Atkins and Brunner were in the kitchen, they heard a noise and rushed into the living room and Brunner found Beausoleil with a knife in his hand. Hinman had been stabbed. He was bleeding from the chest. They cleaned the place up obliterating fingerprints. Hinman went into a coma. Beausoleil said it was all over. Hinman then started breathing with a "loud raspy breathing." Beausoleil put a pillow over Hinman's head. He asked Brunner to hold it. Brunner did so for about two minutes and gave it to Atkins. They left Hinman's house in his Volkswagen which they had to "hotwire." Brunner took the nine millimeter Radom gun with her.
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