Jay Sebring - Jim Morrison

We all know, or most of us know, that Jay Sebring was a genius at his craft!  Here is one piece of proof, in my opinion.

Jay helped create Jim Morrison into a "Rock God".  

A lot of people in Hollywood were scared to death because of the Cielo Drive murders.  Some say it was because of drugs, I say it was because everyone was taken aback because NO ONE KNEW who was involved in these murders.  Everyone was scared to death.  

And what did Jim's death have to do with Jay's?  We're not sure, but we're checking on it.  It may have nothing to do with anything, but on the other hand, it might have everything to do with anything or nothing or maybe something.

Barbara writes...

Hi , I hope you're well :). My name is Barbara Gonzalez and I'm a 21 year old, Venezuelan girl. I really have a deep love for Jay Sebring and Sharon Tate .

I have an account on instagram about Jay. The name of my page is Jay_sebring_love. Every day I upload some photos, articles and interesting quotes about Jay. My intention in creating that account, is to maintain the legacy of Jay's life, and let the world know how wonderful he was. If you want to, follow me on instagram please. :)

This is the link
www.instagram.com/jay_sebring_love/

Can you please put this information on your blog in Honor of Jay please?? 

Many thanks before hand 😊

Kind Regards, Barbara

Jat Sebring cuts Dennis' Weaver's hair... $50 Haircut

This is an excerpt from a newspaper article that came out on August 9, 1964, in the Kingsport Times-News.  It talks about Jay's amazing skills at "creating a new look" for Dennis Weaver.  Jay had extraordinary skills as a hair sculptor...

TUESDAY 'Moment Without Armor" is Actor Gets $50 Hairdo, Loses Limp For Series HOLLYWOOD -- The remaking of Dennis Weaver rivals anything Prof. Higgins ever did in "Pygmalion" to turn Eliza Doolittle into a lady. Leaving "Gunsmoke" and his Chester limp behind him was easy. But to become Kenneth Yarborough Jones in his new "Kentucky Jones" comedy series, Dennis has undergone major surgery. The Prof. Higgins in Dennis' transformation is executive producer Buzz Kulik. Whenever he hears Dennis slipping even slightly into his Chester twang, Kulik yells, "You're doing it!" In his new role Dennis is a country gentleman-type, a former horse-trainer and presently a veterinarian with his own 40-acre horse ranch. "Chester was an ignoramus, but Jones is bright and has some sophistication. He also is articulate," Buzz explains. "If there's even a trace of Chester in Jones, we've failed our job." 

The first thing Prof. Kulik did was take Dennis to a barber-not just any barber. An appointment was made with Jay Sebring for a "consultation." Sebring is Frank Sinatra's barber. It's said, in fact, that one of the phones in Sinatra's car is a direct line to Sebring's shop. The only house-call Sebring will make is to Marlon 1 Brando. Dennis was placed in Sebring's barber chair where the master studied him for 10 minutes. The session cost 30 bucks. "He gave us his ideas, then set up another appointment for the $20 cutting," Kulik says. "I couldn't go with Dennis the second time, but when he came back I fell through the floor. "The Sebring haircut had changed the whole structure of Dennis' face. I hardly recognized him, believe me."...

August 9th. Wow that's creepy.

Anyway, I don't know if I've shared this or not, but back in the late 80's I met a girl whose brother was living in LA and studying at the Sebring International Salon. She offered all her friends a chance to get "reborn" under her brother's hair grooming style.

I went to her house and spent 2 hours there. The first hour he just measured my head, crown to chin, crown to ears, etc. and wrote it all down. Then he shampooed and conditioned my hair until it was sooo silky.

Then he started cutting my hair, always measuring it, every strand. The result was the BEST hair cut I ever got. It was simply amazing.

Jay Sebring was amazing. That I know for sure!!!

Sharmagne Leland-St. John, Jay Sebring, Roman, and Elizabeth Folger

Normally, this is something I would never do, share a Facebook post unless it was Public. 

However, realizing that over 2,000 people are friends with this person (whom I won't name here), I figured it's not really private anymore, and Sharmagne is also quite public.

Here is the post:

I love this part:  
"Bugliosi withheld so much info on the murders, but I never understood why."

Personally, I've never heard of Sharmagne Leland-St. John until I read the above post.  She says she was Jay Sebring's girlfriend.   I'll admit I don't know much at all about Jay's private life during that time, maybe someone that does can chime in...

She has a public Facebook page, a Wiki page, and an IMdB page.  Sharmagne is quite accomplished as a poet and actress.  Her parents were actors.  She was married to Richard Sylbert, the Oscar-winning production designer.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sharmagne_Leland-St._John

http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0500912/bio?ref_=nm_ov_bio_sm

I checked the Tate/LaBianca police reports and she is not listed as a suspect, although she clearly admits she was, along with Charles Tacot and others.

It's also the first I've read that Roman had plans of switching houses with Michael Butler.

(From Wiki) 
"Michael Butler is an American theatrical producer best known for bringing the rock musical Hair from Public Theater to Broadway in 1968.  During his time as Hair producer he was dubbed by the press as "the Hippie Millionaire."

"My future nephew was married to Gibby's younger sister."  In researching Elizabeth Folger, I could only find that Elizabeth was married to Robert Eldred.  Not sure if Robert was her future nephew, but thought I would throw all this out there as most here are always interested in the Folgers.

Here is Elizabeth in 2010:

Robert Eldred is a Financial Planner in the Bay Area.

And once again we hear the story that the Manson girls were swimming in the Cielo pool a day before the murders.

I faintly remember reading something long ago about the cast from Hair being questioned,  (also thrown out of Mexico at that time) but I don't recall the specifics...unfortunately...

Anyway, I'm glad to see some of the folks that were actually there starting to speak up, maybe with all these little tid-bits we'll be able to connect more dots!

Will the Real Jay Sebring please stand up?

I  recently e-mailed Venus & Carol (the 2 who know more about Jay Sebring than most anyone in the TLB group) about the Jay Sebring documentary, and Venus replied and let me know that she heard about the progress of the documentary "directly from Anthony DiMaria!!!"  Thanks Venus!!!

Here is what Anthony said:



"As it stands the Jay Sebring doc is in post production as a 100 minute solid rough cut. Some film processing still yet to be done from original 16mm footage, licensing/permission, music and final polishing. I will have something to present to distributors 3-6 months. 

The completion of this project has taken so long for several reasons.... We have been working on our own time and on limited resources, and acquiring all resources regarding Jay's life, death and legacy has been extensive and required the necessary amount of time.

Interviewees include Robert Wagner, Nancy Sinatra, Dennis Hopper, Paul Anka, Vic Damone, Andy Williams, Quincy Jones, Vidal Sassoon, Fred Segal, Stuart Whitman, Joe Torrenueva, Charles Champlin, David Milch, Barbara Luna, Amos Russell, Debra Tate, Sheilah Wells, Max Baer Jr., LA DAs Stephen Kay and Patrick Sequeira, Dr. Michael Baden and members of Jay's family and several others."





Author's Note:  Thanks so much Venus for your research and valuable input on this thread!  And thanks Anthony for your update on the documentary!  I think that people focus too much on certain things about Jay Sebring that, if he had not been savagely killed by a knuckle-dragging cretin, would never have surfaced.

My impression of Jay is that he was a shy, serious minded, soft spoken man who loved adventure and had the heart of a Lion when it came to the things he loved.  He loved his craft with his whole heart.  He loved making people happy by sculpting them into what they wanted to be.  I think he probably loved that craft more than most anything.  He had a gift!

And he seemed to love Sharon Tate.  He  breathed his last breath trying to protect her.

I will just say that when the news came on the TV on August 9th, 1969, about the vicious murders in Benedict Canyon, that the only reason my ears perked up was because they said that Jay Sebring was one of the victims.  I had never heard of any of the other victims, including Sharon Tate.  Nothing against the other victims, but I was only interested in this case initially because of Jay Sebring.

The Sebring haircut was not only a domestic success, but was bordering on international success.  That haircut was very popular where I lived, and I can remember the boys talking about the new look that he designed.

Jay liked having fun.  Whether it was in a race car, doing a segment on Batman, or just doing a documentary on how to cut hair, he liked having fun.  He liked instructing, he liked learning, and he liked his life. His product line was going international.  He was going to open a salon in San Francisco.  He had everything going for him.

Jay was a slight man, but a good looking man.  He was stylish and mod in his appearance.  But does anyone realize how highly regarded he was in Hollywood in 1969?  He was well acquainted with "movie stars" at the time, having their trust in cutting their tresses and giving each one a distinctive look.

Jay was partially responsible for getting Bruce Lee a job on The Green Hornet. 

Jay Sebring did have certain faults (who doesn't???)  but I hope everyone remembers Jay as a good-hearted, good looking, classy guy, who had a heart of gold!  I think that we can perhaps finally remember him by his last act in life, that he would give his life for a fellow human being.  And what more can you ask of someone?

I look forward to the Sebring documentary!  Thanks Venus, thanks Carol and thanks Anthony!!!

Remembering Jay Sebring

Many people have stated that the family of Jay Sebring was not close, they were estranged at the time of his death, they didn't attend his funeral.  This has always been a close family.  They mourned the loss of Jay deeply.  As for the rumor that they didn't attend his funeral, I'm putting that one to rest right now.  Here's his family at the funeral.  The brunette in the blue dress and sunglasses is Cami Sebring, Jay's ex-wife.  Next to her is Tony DiMaria, Jay's brother-in-law.  

The blonde lady wearing sunglasses is Margaret (Peggy) DiMaria, Jay's younger sister.  Tony and Peggy are the parents of Anthony, who did not attend the funeral.  Peggy is holding her father's hand.  Bernard Kummer clearly looks to be totally devastated and in shock. Next to him is Jay's younger brother.  I know his name but am choosing to not reveal it due to the fact that he's stayed out of the public eye.  (If anyone else knows it, please keep it private. Thank you!)  

You might be wondering where Jay's mom was.  She was home in Michigan, completely bedridden with grief, unable to attend the funeral.   The other sister (whose name I also won't mention) stayed home to take care of her mom.

Jay's mom's 60th birthday was the day after her son's funeral.

Following the California funeral, his body was taken to Michigan where another funeral was held for family and friends. 

The family still misses him and treasures their memories.


Submitted by Venus!  Thanks Venus!

50 Shades of Jay

Ok, admit it, that's a great title, huh?

But, seriously folks, why is it that whenever this guy's name is mentioned, all we hear about is "oh he was kinky," "he liked to tie up women" and so on.

DOES IT MATTER?????  I , for one, think it does NOT matter.  I firmly believe that whatever you do in your bedroom, the back seat of your car, on the kitchen table, is YOUR business.  By all accounts (many  women were interviewed), none had any complaints so if they didn't care, why should we?

I've never heard that he forced anyone to play any of these games, it was all consensual.  Isn't that the name of the game?  It was CONSENSUAL.  They were in agreement.  Therefore, why should we care?  Why should his bedroom exploits seem to be all that is talked about?  It's always the first thing that is mentioned.  I'm tired of it.

From all the comments that I've heard, he was a great guy.  His family and friends all loved him and still miss him.  That is what matters to me.

Submitted by Venus!  Thanks Venus!!

(Part of) 9820 Easton Drive on the Market

"Part of" Jay Sebring's old estate is on the market...the listing says "Formerly the Carriage House and staff quarters".  

Lots of photos... I didn't know the estate had a staff quarters...and parking for eight...

From la.curbed.com:

On September 5, 1932, MGM director/writer/producer Paul Bern was found dead from a gunshot wound in his home in Beverly Crest, supposedly covered in Mitsouko, favorite perfume of his wife of two months/early famewhore Jean Harlow. 

A note was found at the scene reading "Dearest Dear,/Unfortunately this is the only way to make good the frightful wrong I have done you and to wipe out my abject humiliation, I Love you./Paul/You understand that last night was only a comedy."

The butler found Bern's body and, as they did in those days, called MGM instead of the police. Bern's boss, MGM producer Irving Thalberg, spent a few hours with the crime scene that day and ever since rumors have persisted that it wasn't a suicide at all. 

(The most common theory, laid out in a book by MGMer Samuel Marx, is that Bern was killed by an unstable ex who jumped off a boat and drowned a few days later. MGM perhaps thought a suicide would look better for Harlow.) 

Harlow and Bern's house was at 9820 Easton Drive, and that address has just hit the market, BUT it looks like it's only part of the estate--the listing says "Formerly the Carriage House and staff quarters." 

The property comes with two bedrooms, one and three-quarter bathrooms, a sun porch, parking for eight, a "detached unfinished studio space," and grounds "lovingly developed with citrus trees, avocado trees, pomegranate, tomatoes." The listing suggests a developer might like to redevelop the land, which wouldn't be such a crime, probably. Asking price is $995,000.

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The Church where Jay Sebring's Funeral was Held

One of our esteemed readers, recently visited the church where Jay Sebring's funeral was held.  I decided to share these beautiful photos with everyone.  (The photos were taken, just last week) 

Following the current-day photos of this wonderful church... I've also included a video from Jay's actual funeral "back in the day".  It's a cool "today" VS "yesterday" comparison.  Amazingly, the church looks almost exactly the same!  They must have a fantastic caretaker! LOL

The funeral footage was uploaded to Youtube by HelterSkeleterForum.com.  Thanks HSF!  Great footage!

Cami Sebring

Cami Sebring was born in 1943, her birth name was Bonnie.  As a teenager, she moved to California.  While attending high school, she was discovered by a modeling agency and talent scouts for movies.  

According to  her high school pal Carrie White (who became a famous Hollywood hairstylist), Cami met Jay Sebring while still in high school.  She showed up at school one day with a hairdo that all the girls loved and Cami told them that Jay had styled her hair.  According to a Cami interview I read quite a while ago, Cami and Jay were married a month after they met.  Supposedly Jay gave her the name Cami.  They separated just before their 3rd anniversary and their divorce was finalized a year and a half later.  

I've had contact with someone who knows Cami and she told me that Cami has never said a bad thing about Jay.  She just said that they grew apart and decided to get a divorce and remain friends.  This friend told me that Cami learned how to cut hair from Jay... and has been known to style her friends' hair.

Standing only 5'3' tall and weighing only 103 lbs., Cami wasn't a runway type of model, but her gorgeous face was definitely considered to be perfect for cosmetic ads.   

Cami modeled for Revlon, among other companies.  Here's a photo of her from a Revlon Ad:.

Walt Disney spotted her photo in a magazine and chose her to appear in his film "The Gnome-Mobile," playing a female gnome named "Violet."

(NOTE:  unless specified otherwise, photos are from 1966 to 1967)

Here's a photo of her from the movie:

Here are a couple publicity photos taken during her Disney days:

 Another publicity photo:

This is from an Esquire magazine photo spread, the first color photo is the first page and the 2nd color photo is the last page.  (I have this magazine): 

Here she is in a bikini from a LIFE magazine photo shoot (I have this magazine):

Here she is as a blonde:

I've always thought that he and Sharon resembled each other.  Look at Sharon in "The Wrecking Crew" with the dark hair, there are lots of similarities.  According to something I read quite a while ago, Cami and Sharon never met.  They knew some of the same people.  

Sharon had posed with Linda Kaye Henning when she was supposed to be in "Petticoat Junction" (Linda played "Betty Jo").  Here's Cami with Linda Kaye and other starlets, Cami is in the middle of the top row, Linda Kaye is next to her.  

Here's Sharon (on the right) with Linda Kaye, in the middle (circa 1963):

Cami made a few TV appearances, but as far as I know, her last appearance was in an episode of "Quincy, M.E." in 1980.  Here she is, playing a nurse:

Here's a lovely photo of Cami taken by famed photographer, Harry Langdon (not sure when this was taken):

Cami was married (again) briefly in the late 1960's.

Here's a weird bit of trivia:

On the day that Roman Polanski fled the U.S., he stopped at a restaurant and had breakfast.  Who was his waitress?  Cami's Mom!!  She mentioned her connection... Roman hugged her... and they chatted about Jay.

Now, I know that there could be snide comments about the fact that she was young when she and Jay were married.  Keep in mind that it was common then!  I have several female relatives who were married as teenagers in the 1950's and 1960's and their husbands were well into their 20's (if not older).  It was pretty common to marry a guy who had an established career so the little woman could stay home and be a housewife.

Cami will be appearing in the upcoming Jay documentary.... 

Thread Compiled by Venus.  Thanks Venus!!