Friday, April 8, 2011

Here's Something You Don't See Every Day.
This is an actual arrest sheet for Charles Manson.
The Date: New Years Eve, 1959!  Enjoy!

31 comments:

Kimchi said...

Hmm, funny that he was hanging out on Franklin St. in 1959...wonder how close that address is to where Tex lived or hung out..

katie8753 said...

"In case of illness, notify NOBODY". HA HA.

I'm assuming this was a burglary arrest?

It says his occupation was advertising.

What was he advertising? Girls for sale?

katie8753 said...

Kimchi, Franklin Street must be the place to hang out in LA. LOL.

In 1959, Tex was probably happily skipping to Sunday School.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

SHERIFF’S DEPT. ARREST AND PROPERTY RECORD:

Property:
(I’m assuming the contents of his pockets)
1 Pair Cuff Links
50 cents
Y/M with Clear Stone
2 Keys
1 Comb
Misc. Cards

Y/M with clear stone, must be some type of jewelry?

Tattoos:
Bird Three Stars, Right Fore-Arm
Heart, Left Fore-arm

6871 (6891?) Franklin Ave., Apt. 306

In Case of Emergency: “NOBODY”!

Age: 25
WT: 136
HT: 5/6

Charge in Full:
8363-459PC Susp. Burglary

Arresting Officer:
J. Levy
HP Winegar

Birthplace:
Cincinatti OH

Booked by:
JP Winegar

Searched by:
JP Winegar

Released by:
J. Levy DET. SGT. #296

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

What was the address where Manson shot Lottsapoppa?

katie8753 said...

>>>Lynyrd said: Property:
(I’m assuming the contents of his pockets)
1 Pair Cuff Links
50 cents
Y/M with Clear Stone
2 Keys
1 Comb
Misc. Cards>>>

Wow. He had 50 cents!! Long before the $1000's he would later glean.

1 Pair of cuff links: You never know when you might need some cuff links. HA HA.

1 Comb: I'm assuming this was before he had that wavy mane. So I guess 1 comb would suffice.

"Y/M with Clear Stone". Don't have any idea what that is. A ring?

katie8753 said...

Lynyrd, according to Ed Sanders, Tex's girlfriend, Rosina, lived at 6933 Franklin Avenue, next to the Magic Castle.

Crowe was shot at Rosina's pad.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I just realised...
I "outed" his social security number. LOLOL

Oh well...
I don't think too many folks are anxious to do business as "Charles Milles Manson". LOLOL

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Wow...
Lottsapoppa was shot, just a few doors down.

With all the records on Manson's various (and many) crimes... it doesn't seem he was a very successful criminal. LOL

If you're in jail for burglary, with 50 cents in your pocket... you should prolly think about choosing another line of work. LOLOL

katie8753 said...

>>>Lynyrd said: I just realised...
I "outed" his social security number. LOLOL

Oh well...
I don't think too many folks are anxious to do business as "Charles Milles Manson". LOLOL>>>

I saw that. But I think you're right. I don't think many people want to try to get a credit card under the name Son of Man. HA HA.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

All kidding aside:

I actually feel bad for Charlie.

Under, "In case of illness notify"... it reads "Nobody".

Can you imagine... sitting in jail... 25 years old... on New Years Eve... and you can't think of a single emergency contact person?

Can you imagine being asked that question by a police officer (who's filling-out the form), and you don't have a single name to give him?

Sad really.

You gotta wonder what kind of Christmas... a guy in that situation... had 6 days prior.
Probably "none" as well...

katie8753 said...

>>>Lynyrd said: You gotta wonder what kind of Christmas... a guy in that situation... had 6 days prior.
Probably "none" as well...>>>

That is sad, but in his later years, he had lots of people to put on the police report.

I sincerely doubt if Charlie EVER had a good Christmas. Or maybe any Christmas at all.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Rudy Altobelli 1929- 2011

Rudy Altobelli died last week. March 26, 2011. He was 82.

Information courtesy of Colonel.

katie8753 said...

I didn't know Rudy was still alive. I wonder what he's been up to all these years!!

Kimchi said...

Y/M (yellow metal) is presumed gold, but cops i.e., law enforcement can't make that determination, therefore, they use "y/m"..

Wow, Rudy died...from what? Wonder what knowledge he took to the grave...

katie8753 said...

>>>Kimchi said: Y/M (yellow metal) is presumed gold, but cops i.e., law enforcement can't make that determination, therefore, they use "y/m"..>>>

Thanks for the info Kimchi. I didn't know that.

I don't know how Rudy died. He was 82, I guess it was old age. Whatever knowledge he had about this case, he's kept it to himself all this time. Just like everyone else!!

Kimchi said...

So this was a few doors down from the Crow shooting?

So Charlie knew the area well..

Gotta laugh, it was assigned to the West Hollywood DB - sure is a different place today, with different crimes.."Gay lover shoots pimp" is headlines today..

Kimchi said...

wow, the mood's kind of somber...

Here there and everywhere..

It's Friday...let's party.!!

katie8753 said...

Kimchi...I agree!! Let's party!!

Did you get a chance to check out Jay's property? Do you know who owns it?

You know on the last thread, Roman said Jay owed $5400 to the dentist.

First of all, how did he know that? Do they go to the same dentist and he's a little too chatty?

Also, what kind of work did he have performed that would have cost $5400 back in 1969?? A whole new set of choppers?? Maybe some super fantastic teeth whitening?? Braces? HA HA.

katie8753 said...

>>>Kimchi said: Gotta laugh, it was assigned to the West Hollywood DB - sure is a different place today, with different crimes.."Gay lover shoots pimp" is headlines today..>>>

HA HA HA!!

I've been to LA a few times, but don't really know the city. But I have heard about "west Hollywood". It's gotten pretty ripe!! LOL.

Kimchi said...

Haven't listened to all the Ro-man tapes yet...just going by what others say..he was paying 100.00 a month for a dental bill? Well, considering my parents' mortgage was 53.00 a month in 1969, that 100.00 per month would equal to about 2 grand a month now...some serious dental work I'd say..

katie8753 said...

Okay, Jay had a Porsche 912 Targa I believe. It was probably a 1968 model. Maybe older.

That car may have cost anywhere from $8000 to $10,000. If he bought it used, it would probably have cost from $5000 to $7000.

Now, let's add in the dental bill of $5400.

Looking at the numbers, the dental work he had done possibly cost more or as much as the Porsche he was driving.

Even if he had a root canal and crown placed on every tooth, I think $5400 is excessive in 1969.

Maybe he was going to a Beverly Hills dentist that overcharged him!! He should have just promised him "free hair styling for life" to compensate. HA HA.

katie8753 said...

You know, Jay's house had the most unusal architecture. It has a turret and also a tiny little window in the rooftop. I believe the house was built in the 1920's.

I'd love to go in that house!!

Kimchie, please "scratch my itch" and find out what you can about that house!!! Thanks!!

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Hello Ladies.

Katie... Actually, Roman did said they used the same dentist.

Kimchi... Y/M, yellow metal, makes sense.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Is there still talk of closing sectors of the government down?
...or did they come-up with an 11th hour package?

katie8753 said...

Hi Lynyrd! At the 6:00 news I heard they were still arguing. I certainly hope they didn't shut it down.

I feel bad for the military families who will go without, which is total nonsense, and also anyone who works for the government, because they won't be getting a paycheck.

You know, a lot of people live from paycheck to paycheck, so to miss one really causes a lot of chaos. Groceries, electric bill, water bill, etc.

I sure hope that if they do shut down, it won't last long.

katie8753 said...

So, Roman & Jay went to the same dentist. And he just couldn't resist talking about other patients. Hrrrummphhh.

You know what I hate? Dentists who never stop talking.

You have all kinds of hands in your mouth, and they're chatting away, asking questions, "well what did you do this week". And you can't answer because your mouth is filled with stuff.

And then he keeps talking.

Reminds me of the dentist on Seinfeld.

"I'm just a sadist with newer magazines".

"You know what a dentist is don't you? A doctor who failed medical school".

"Pretty soon you'll say they have to have their own schools.

They DO have their own schools!"

"You're an anti-dentite".

HA HA HA HA

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

"Obama, Congress make budget deal, avert shutdown"

WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama and congressional leaders struck a last-minute budget deal on Friday, narrowly averting a government shutdown that would have idled hundreds of thousands of federal workers.

With little time to spare before a midnight deadline for a government closure, Obama's Democrats and opposition Republicans agreed to a bitterly fought compromise plan that would cut $37.8 billion in spending for the rest of the fiscal year.

St. Circumstance said...

Glad to see you have made the Cols radar.. My fingers are crossed for you that this becomes the next " Must visit" Manson site...

Hello Katie :)

katie8753 said...

Hi Circumstance!! Good to see you. We need to start our next reading assignment so we can all put our heads together again and have an in-depth analysis of "what really happened". HA HA.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Hi Circumstance!

Thanks Brother!