Thursday, May 6, 2021

What do we know about this case?  Absolutely nothing!  All we have is gobbley-gook from different family members, from "experts", from victims, from the DA's office, and from Manson himself.  

Manson claims that he had nothing to do with these murders.  There are lots of people who believe that.  And there are a lot of people who don't believe that.

But let's look at the facts!

Manson says Tex was responsible for the murders.  But if you want to say Tex Watson was responsible for the Tate/LaBianca murders, you first have to look at Gary Hinman's murder.  Tex had nothing to do with that.  It was Bobby.  So how does that work?  And of course, Tex has a very different story.  According to him, he's Mr. Innocent.  Do you believe that?

Manson sent Bobby over to Gary's to get money.  End of story!

Bobby claims that when he told Manson that Gary said he didn't have any money, that Manson said "you know what to do".  That means nothing.  I think Bobby killed Gary because he was scared.  I think that when you hold a guy hostage for 2 days, and someone comes and slashes his ear, and that hostage is saying he will call the cops, you cave and kill him.  I don't think that Manson told Bobby to kill Gary.  But Bobby felt the pressure.   

It's interesting that Bobby wrote "Political Piggy" on the wall.  Who came up with the word "Pig"? 


Charlie never said write the word "Pig".  He played the Beatles "Piggies" on the record player, but he never told anyone to use that word in particular.

But that was the word they used, over and over again.  Another clue?

I've watched several programs on Charles Manson, and he spends a lot of time doing "double talk" that he is so famous for, and denying any involvement in these murders.

Was he telling the truth?  Or was it just another Charlie Manson con?

I really wish that Charlie had spilled his guts before he died, because when he died, the truth died with him.  

We will probably never know!  The only thing left now is to just keep arguing certain points according to your beliefs!

Let's discuss!!!!


46 comments:

katie8753 said...

Sunset can I get your approval to change your e-mail address on the side bar of this blog to your current e-mail address that you posted in the past thread? I won't do it without your approval or permission.

beauders said...

I think that the Tex Tapes contain a lot of answers, and I hope we get to hear them someday.

beauders said...

Three days of Zoe wearing the hideous three headed snake, how is that fashion?

katie8753 said...

Yeah Beauders I forgot about the Tex Tapes. What's the status of those? Didn't that lawyer that had those die a while back?

I wonder if Tex even tells the truth on those though. He's pretty good at lying. He even pretended to be dying, but they didn't believe him.

Yeah that snake dress is getting old, but it's actually better than the ugly yellow one she wore previously. Douglas needs to churn out some new dresses! LOL.

Dilligaf said...

I don’t hold out much excitement about the Tex taxes after 50 years. To me, it is the equivalent of Geraldo opening Al Capones secret vault back in ‘86, a huge let down.

The mystique of the Manson killings will, in my opinion, continue on much like the original Zodiac killings, and that is due to the “strangeness” of the crimes in an era when we did not see or hear of such things on a regular basis.

beauders said...

For those interested in what is going on in Portland check out last nights ABC’s Nightline, it’s about Antifa in Portland. Hulu has Nightline on it.

beauders said...

The snake dress made it to another week, even though yellow dress made her look like a banana slug I preferred it.

beauders said...

Katie do you get banana slugs in Texas? They are all over the Bay Area and UC Santa Cruz, not the most athletically inclined University has the banana slug as its mascot.

katie8753 said...

Well Beauders the snake dress is probably the worst design that Forrester ever made. Well, I can't say the worst. They've made some pretty bad fashion designs in the past. But it's gotta be in the top 2! Or the top 1! I sound like Mr. Kimball!

I'm so tired of Quinn and Carter saying why they can't do it, but they do. They got caught today.

I've never had banana slugs. What is that?

katie8753 said...

As far as Antifa is concerned, I'll address that tomorrow.

katie8753 said...

I would go all hay-wire but I won't this time. LOL.

katie8753 said...

What I'd really like to learn more about is the Sebring house. That house is a mystery to me.

sunset77 said...

Sorry, Katie it took me so long to reply. (my dad was in the hospital). Sure, change the e-mail address to billthomas160@yahoo.com I check that one pretty often. I made a special e-mail address for this blog years ago, but I forgot what it was,

katie8753 said...

Thanks Sunset. I hope your Dad is okay.

beauders said...

A banana slug is a large slug that is yellow and looks like a banana.

katie8753 said...

Hmmm....interesting. What exactly is a slug?

katie8753 said...

Okay Sunset I think I changed your e-mail address okay. I got no help from Lynyrd. He's floating around the galaxy somewhere.

Anyway, I watched the Jay Sebring documentary again. First of all, I love Jay's house. I would love to see the inside. There are very few views of that.

Secondly, I wonder why hair dressers always have bad hair. Jay's hair was sickening. It was just greasy, black and long. Every hair dresser I've ever been to see had bad hair.

What's up with that?????

katie8753 said...

Finally, Beauders (1) Zoey will remember Quinn's coat, (2) I hate Brooke & (3) I've been watching the Y&R kinda and it's getting interesting.

katie8753 said...

I can't remember if I told y'all this story before, but since I'm a senior citizen, I get a pass if I tell the same story over and over again. LOL.

Years ago I worked with a girl whose brother was attending the Sebring Haircutting Institute in California, and he came to town and he cut my hair.

It took about an hour, but he measured every inch of my head and face. And he gave me the best haircut I've ever had. And even when it grew back out, it was still the best. Until eventually I had to go to Super Cuts, and they screwed it up in one visit. LOL.

beauders said...

A slug is a slimy creepy crawly thing just google banana slug and you'll see. Slugs probably don't exist in the heat of Texas but they love the dampness of Northern California. We also had slimy snails everywhere when we lived in California.

sunset77 said...

I was wondering what happened to Lynyrd, I haven't seen him online for months, maybe years.

We have slugs, (although they might technically be snails). The are basically a snail without a shell. I know about them because they eat my pepper plants at night. I have a large salt shaker, salt causes them to shrivel up. I also buy "Sluggo" and "Slug Magic", they eat it and it kills them. It took me a long time to figure out what was eating my plants until I went out one night with a flashlight. I never see them in the daylight.

katie8753 said...

Lynyrd's around. He's just got a lot going on right now and doesn't really have much time for the blog. Maybe he'll pop in.

I think I've seen slugs around here once in a while. It probably is too hot and dry in the summer for them though.

katie8753 said...

Beauders, Zoey thinks Shawna has the crumpled red coat. It's hard to believe that she never saw Quinn wearing that in all these months.

beauders said...

Yes, Quinn got very lucky, but as soap watchers we both know its going come out sooner than later.

katie8753 said...

Yup! That coat will be traced back to Quinn. It's just a matter of time!

Unknown said...

If you hold a piece of lettuce Infront of a slugs face they bite little holes in it, you can hear them crunching away.
The Tex tapes will come out one day for sure, probably after he has died, probably in about 20 years.

beauders said...

I hope I’m still around to listen to those tapes even if it twenty years from now. Liam is very girl like with the constant talking of his feelings.

katie8753 said...

Yeah I'd like to hear those tapes too!

Check out Zoe's latest fashion flub! It looks like a multi-colored flying carpet with big shoulders with rhinestones. And those gaudy earrings hang down to her shoulders!

I wish Liam would just go to jail and stay there!

beauders said...

Zoe is a mess, it's seems as though the person dressing her is messing with her.

beauders said...

Katie something major is going to happen soon that I know about it, do you want to know?

beauders said...

on B&B

katie8753 said...

Yeah, what's gonna happen???

beauders said...

The actress that plays Zoe just got hired for a different show and is leaving B&B. I think the people that dress her are mad she's leaving so they seem to be dressing her outrageously.

katie8753 said...

Wow if Zoe leaves that only leaves about 5 or 6 people left to run Forrester!! LOL.

That show used to have lots of characters. I think most of them have left to go to Y&R.

beauders said...

She's not going to Y&R but to a nighttime show.

beauders said...

Maybe she'll become a big time actress, that is if the Manson Family doesn't get her.

katie8753 said...

Prediction: Bill will tell the cops he was driving the car and ran over Vinny. He will do anything to get his ovary-ridden son off. LOL.

Jay said...

I would love to hear the Tex tapes, but I don’t think they will shed much light. I do think that Tex was the main killer on both nights, along with Krenwinkel. Susan Atkins I believe participated to a degree, but I am of the feeling that she lied a lot initially, and basically lied her way onto death row. I’m thinking she stabbed Frykowski in the legs at most. She was there, and does bear the responsibility. I don’t think she stabbed Tate. Was she a pathological liar and likely very disturbed? Definitely.
As far as Kasabian getting off scot free, I always felt her participation should have been punished to some degree.

katie8753 said...

Thanks Jay. I agree. Susan was a big-mouth who tried to get attention with her blathering. Most of it made up to be a "tough guy". Although she also helped kill Gary Hinman.

I think it's pathetic that Kasabian got off, but also more pathetic that Mary Brunner got off. She helped kill Gary Hinman too. Susan was convicted for it, but Mary got off because she talked. Just like Kasabian.

Unknown said...

Maybe Manson did spill his guts before he left, he didn't tell Bobby to kill Gary only to get money from him, Charlie didn't go to Bernards to get money, he went because one of his fuck up "brothers" was in trouble and was now hiding out and Bernard knew where Charlie lived, should Manson let a bunch of brothers come to the ranch and destroy everything? Remember this, all his life Manson had NOTHING no one would even come bail the guy out of jail so he had to sit there and wait, is he supposed to do the same? Everytime you hear Manson explain himself he says the same thing "all my life no one would come get me out of jail,I couldn't do that to my friends", whether Manson told Watson, Atkins, Krenwinkel and Kasabian to kill on Aug 8, 1969 who knows, they did take two sets of clothes so you make your own guess, was Charles Manson a nice guy? Fuck no but he wasn't the type of guy to let friends suffer

Unknown said...

No offense Katie but Mary did help to put Gary's ear back together, Kasabian was nuts though

Unknown said...

I agree with you, I think Atkins stabbed Frykowski in the legs but only to get him off her, Pat and ESPECIALLY Linda helped Tex kill everyone at Cielo

Unknown said...

There's alot of stuff on it online

katie8753 said...

Hey Unknown, it wasn't Mary who sewed Gary's ear back, it was Sadie. Kasabian wasn't nuts enough to kill Saladin Nader. In fact, she prevented it.

Charlie wasn't a nice guy, but I don't think he told Bobby to kill Gary. However, he did say a lot about killing regarding TLB. BTW, I think Manson finally realized the power he had when Bobby killed Gary. He finally realized that he had the power to make people kill for him. And he used it on Tex.

Peter said...

Bobby claims that when he told Manson that Gary said he didn't have any money, that Manson said "you know what to do". That means nothing.

Have you just never gone to the movies ?

katie8753 said...

Pete, LOL!