Monday, November 17, 2014

"Trending" on Facebook...

AP Exclusive: Charles Manson gets Marriage License

By LINDA DEUTSCH and SCOTT SMITH
Nov. 17, 2014 5:43 PM EST
Oct. 8, 2014 photo provided by the California Department of Corrections
CORCORAN, Calif. (AP) — Mass murderer Charles Manson has gotten a license to marry a 26-year-old woman who visits him in prison.

The Kings County marriage license, viewed Monday by The Associated Press, was issued Nov. 7 for the 80-year-old Manson and Afton Elaine Burton, who left her Midwestern home nine years ago and moved to Corcoran, California — the site of the prison — to be near Manson. She maintains several websites advocating Manson's innocence.

The license does not specify a wedding date and indicates the couple has 90 days to get married or they will have to reapply.

Burton, who goes by the name "Star," told the AP that she and Manson will be married next month.

"Y'all can know that it's true," she said. "It's going to happen."

"I love him," she added. "I'm with him. There's all kinds of things."

Burton gave an interview a year ago to Rolling Stone magazine in which she said she and Manson planned to marry. But Manson, who became notorious in 1969 as the leader of a roving "family" of young killers, was less certain about tying the knot.

"That's a bunch of garbage," Manson said in the December 2013 interview. "That's trash We're playing that for public consumption."

Asked Monday about those comments, Burton said, "None of that's true," adding that they're waiting for the prison to complete their paperwork.

California Department of Corrections spokeswoman Terry Thornton confirmed to the AP that the license had been transmitted to the prison.

Thornton said each California prison designates an employee to be a marriage coordinator who processes paperwork for an inmate's request to be wed. In most cases, she said, the department of corrections approves of such weddings as "a tool of family reunification and social development." But Manson is a unique case.

Burton said the wedding might have happened earlier if Manson did not have "some situations" at the prison.

Thornton explained that in February, Manson had three violations for possession of a weapon, threatening staff and refusal to provide a urine sample. Further details on the violations were not immediately available.

Burton said the prison holds marriages on the first Saturday of each month. She expects to be married in an inmate visiting room at the prison.

Thornton confirmed that Manson can have a wedding at the prison and invite an officiate from outside the prison to perform the ceremony.

He and his prospective spouse also would be allowed to invite 10 guests who are not inmates.

However, as a life prisoner with no parole date, he is not entitled to family visits, a euphemism for conjugal visits.

Why marry Manson under those conditions?

Burton said she was interested in working on his case and helping him obtain possible release. Marrying him would allow her to get information not available to non-relatives, she said without elaborating.

"There's certain things next of kin can do," she said.

She said she believes Manson is innocent and will get a new trial.

He and two women followers, Leslie Van Houten and Patricia Krenwinkel, remain imprisoned. Another follower, Susan Atkins, died of cancer behind bars.

They were convicted in the gruesome killings of actress Sharon Tate and four others at her estate on Aug. 9, 1969, and grocers Leno and Rosemary LaBianca who were killed the following night.

Manson would not be eligible for parole until 2027. He has been a habitual criminal and spent most of his life in prison.

Wednesday, November 12, 2014

Thoughts

Well...

It seems Charles Manson's birthday came and went, with little mention on the blogs.

And how appropriate really?

Yesterday, I saw a Facebook post about a WWII veteran.
The man was 108 years old.
The gentleman, is our country's oldest living veteran.

He still looks strong... and evidently, he's still very active in his community.
He even organizes his local parade.

At that moment, I thought to myself:
Now... here's a guy, who deserves notoriety and press coverage.

Yes...
Charles Manson's birthday came and went, like a fart in the breeze... and how appropriate.

I sometimes feel guilty, about the notoriety these blogs bring to Charles Manson.
(My own blog included, of course)

I remember when Mark David Chapman killed John Lennon.

Chapman said something to the effect of (and, I'm very loosely paraphrasing here):
"I was a nobody. I figured... if I killed someone important, I'd be a 'somebody'. People would remember me."

In the aftermath...
I remember Paul McCartney encouraged the entire world, to give Mark David Chapman, no more press, attention, or notoriety than absolutely necessary.

McCartney said (again, I'm loosely paraphrasing):
"Let Chapman rot in obscurity."

I sometimes feel the same way, about Charles Manson.

Manson has already lived longer than he deserves.
From his birth, Manson has contributed zero to the world... and he's been a constant drain on society.

Maybe letting a criminal "rot in obscurity", is the best punishment of all.

Peace...

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SALUTE!!!

Richard Arvine Overton is truly a national treasure!

The oldest WWII veteran is an American centenarian from Austin Texas. He served in the South Pacific from 1942 through 1945, including stops in Hawaii, Guam, Palau and Iwo Jima. He left the U.S. Army in October 1945.

Yesterday, Overton served as the Grand Marshal in Austin's Veteran Day Parade. Living in the same home he purchased for $4000 after returning from the war, Richard Overton is still very active.

Overton used to start his days with some whiskey in his coffee, and he still adds a teaspoon from time-to-time. “It’s just like medicine,” he said. Overton also smokes cigars daily, too. Keep in Mind he is 108 years old!!!!

Respect and Love!




Tuesday, November 11, 2014

A conversation with Steve Grogan.....

The mis-spelled words were not changed to protect the guilty.  HA HA. 

This transcribed telephone conversation took place between Steve Grogan and Paul Watkins, shortly after Grogan was released on parole in 1985.

(We decided to leave the "X's" in, as that is how it was originally transcribed)



XX:  Is Steve there?

Steve’s Mom:  Who’s calling

XX:  XX






Steve’s Mom:  Who?

XX:  XX

Steve’s Mom: I’ll see.

Steve Grogan:  Is this XX?

XX:  Yes.

Steve Grogan:  So what’s happening?

XX:  I thought I’d call and see how you were doing.

Steve Grogan:   I’m ok. It’s really surprising how expensive everything is now, you know, after being in the joint 15 years.

XX:  Yeah but things are easier now.

Steve Grogan:  So what are you doing, are you doing music?

XX: I’m living in a shack in the desert in Tecopa.

Steve Grogan:  Where?

XX: Tecopa.

Steve Grogan:  Topanga?

XX:  No,  Ta Ta Tecopa.

Steve Grogan:  Are you nervous?

XX:  No.

Steve Grogan:  Hey it’s cool, that’s all over.

XX:  Well, Charlie always did have a way of knowing everything.

Steve Grogan:  Well, it’s cool now-so what are you doing, are you doing music?

XX:  Not really – I did make a little a way back and now I’m living on it. What are you doing?

Steve Grogan:  I’m doing art work – I go in everyday and do art work. You know it’s against my parole to associate with anyone in the Family.

XX:  Well, if it’s not cool, maybe I shouldn’t be talking to you.

Steve Grogan:  I’ll tell them that you called me – I didn’t call you

XX:  You sure it’s OK?

Steve Grogan:  Hey didn’t I know you when we were kids?

XX:  Well I wouldn’t call it kids.

Steve Grogan:  Hey I was 17 back then.

XX:  Yeah but that’s not really kids.

Steve Grogan:  You know if I hadn’t got put in the joint I don’t know how far I would have gone. I sure was a crazy kid. I’ve been working with kids who are just like I was, theyre right into the same thing.

XX:  Yeah, will things ever change?

Steve Grogan:  I guess there are only two girls into that Manson thing now. I guess that’s all they got goin', is to hang onto that. You doing anything with music?

XX:  Well I saw Brooks last summer in Venice playing at a club.

Steve Grogan:  What’s his music like, is it fusion?

XX:  Not fusion – it’s sort of folk and a tinge of psychadelic.

Steve Grogan:  How’s Brooks doing?

XX:  He’s playing around a little – he’s really into his music.  You know how this is costing me a bit, maybe I should call you later. When are you there?

Steve Grogan:  I’m not here much, just in and out. You say you’re in Topanga?

XX:  No, Tacopa, out in the desert.

Steve Grogan:  How’s your father?

XX:  Oh he died a few years ago.

Steve Grogan:  Oh that’s too bad, you know what I really found out, your parents are really important to you. Mine stuck with through this whole thing. Is your Mom still out in Calabases?

XX:  I haven’t kept in touch with her for years. After my dad died she became reclucive.

Steve Grogan:  You should go see her, go find her, it’s important.

XX:  Maybe I should call you later like on the weekend, I might be able to use a friends phone.

Steve Grogan: Well OK, God bless you.

XX: Bye, bye.

Steve Grogan:  Bye

Tuesday, October 28, 2014

This Ain't Melba Toast!

It's Melba Kronkright! 
AKA "Malibu Melba"!

Charles Manson and his minions, made the acquaintance of a woman named Melba Kronkright. Melba was a "family friend" of sorts (for lack of better terminology). And yes, pun intended!

Here at LSB3, we've been searching for "Malibu Melba" for some time. We wanted to put a name with a face... or in this case, vice-versa.

Melba has been hard to locate. In fact, she's been much harder to locate than Melba Toast in a grocery store.

After much searching, we finally arrived at the main reason for her elusiveness. The main obstacle to finding Melba, is that her last name has been misspelled by everyone on the planet!

Her last name is supposed to be spelled "Kronkright " 

Everyone from Ed Sanders... to the LAPD... to Paul Fitzgerald... has misspelled her last name.

Her last name has been misspelled more times, than Saint Circumstance has screwed-up the contraction "you're"... just to give you some perspective. LMAO! (Just bustin' ya Bro)

Many years ago, someone asked the question:
"Is it spelled like Walter Cronkite?"
I wanna say it was Mark Turner... but, I can't recall for sure.

At any rate...
The only reason we found Melba, is because Ancestry.com allows phonetic searches.

As I said... her legal name is "Kronkright".

I first learned of "Melba" while reading Ed Sanders' book. 

Here is an excerpt from Sanders' book, which gives a good general overview of Melba (for those unfamiliar with the woman):

From Ed Sanders – “The Family”

"In February 1968, through a service attendant named Jerry, Manson met a lady named Melba Kronkite who owned a luxurious ranch in the hills between Malibu and Topanga Canyons, near the old Malibu sheriff's substation.  Evidently the lady had been wealthy but had fallen into impecunious times.  She was amazed at the brigade and became a close friend.  Unmentionable and secret were the encounters around her heated Malibu pool.  She became so friendly with the family that she was used as a character reference when family members got busted later on.

Off and on the family would visit Malibu Melba.  They worked for her.  Manson claims to have given her some money.  Manson also gave her a 1967 Ford Mustang which a New Yorker named Michael, divesting himself of worldly goods, had given to Manson.

Mrs. Kronkite had huge stables and an exercise track on her property.  Once the family, (like Heracles cleaning Augean stables,) spent a week cleaning an incredible mountain of horse dooky from several hundred stalls in her stables."

Page 50 in the 1st Edition
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Melba is listed as an acquaintance/associate on the LAPD list compiled by Lt. Earl Deemer.

According to Deemer's list, she received a Green, 1965 Ford Mustang from Manson (see LAPD list below). Her address is also listed.


According to Sanders book' (excerpt above), it was a 1967 Mustang... not a 1965. Shit never lines-up with TLB stuff. Go figure?


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She was also mentioned in the court records of Mendocino County, during “The Witches of Mendocino” case (as per Sanders above).

Sanders stated, "she became so friendly with the family that she was used as a character reference when family members got busted later on." (see Mendocino document below).(Document from Mansonblog.com)
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Melba was also mentioned in a Declaration by Paul Fitzgerald In Support of Motions  (1970)
(Document from Officialtatelabianca.blogspot.com)
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Her background:
Melba was born in 1913 in Utah. Her maiden name is Lake.  She moved to Southern California sometime during her childhood.  She went to high school in Orange County, California.

She married Robert Kronkright in 1933.  They were both very active in the "West Hills Hunt Club" in Southern California during the 1950’s.  They had a daughter born in 1934, who is still alive... but we won’t mention her name or where she lives.

Robert died in a car accident in 1961 in Ventura County.

Melba passed away in 2002 in Newport Beach, California. She apparently went back to her maiden name.














From June 1, 1958 (Valley News)
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Robert and Melba Kronkright:
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Melba toast is a dry, crisp and thinly sliced toast, often served with soup and salad or topped with either melted cheese or pâté.
LOL! Peace... !

A Birthday Card for Manson. Happy 80th Charlie!

Created by Chris!  Thanks Chris!