Tuesday, October 18, 2011

Researched by Katie and Beauders

Charlene Marie Lawley (maiden name) married Carter Detre Cafritz on May 27, 1966.
Carter’s parents were Morris & Gwendolyn Cafritz, a prominent power couple, both politically and socially, in Washington, DC.

In his book “The Family”, Ed Sanders mentions Manson meeting a young lady named Charlene Cafritz, in the summer of 1968 at Dennis Wilson’s beach home.  Charlene met Wilson through Cass Elliot, and became one of Wilson's girlfriends.

In December of 1968, Manson and 3 girls drove to an exclusive dude ranch near Reno, Nevada, where they spent 2 weeks as Charlene‘s guests.

At the time of Charlie’s visit to Reno, Charlene was getting her divorce finalized.  According to Sanders, her settlement figure was around $2,000,000.  However, I’ve read that it was a cash settlement of $130,000 plus $20,000 a year, some antiques and 4 thoroughbred race horses.  Carter retained custody of their baby.

Evidently, Charlie’s “double-talk voodoo” worked on Charlene too.  Manson supposedly told Charlene to buy him a blue Fleetwood Cadillac.  She screwed up and bought a fire-engine red Cadillac and he told her to take it back.  Manson was instrumental in squandering any money she had.

Charlene is reported to have taken lots of “home movies” of Manson & the girls in Reno, which, if they exist, seem to have vanished.  Charlene reportedly knew Sharon Tate and Terry Melcher, and rumor has it that she attended Sharon’s funeral.

The police learned of Cafritz during the TLB murder investigation, from Gregg Jakobson.  They had a hard time finding her, but eventually found her at St. Elizabeth mental hospital in Washington, DC.  She was a heroin addict and was arrested on December 19, 1969 for trying to sell 14 capsules of heroin to an undercover police officer.  On April 14, 1970 she was indicted for the offense.

On August 11, 1970 she telephoned Spahn’s Ranch… probably talked to Gypsy, and told her she was going to give them some money for their defense.  On September 4, 1970 Charlene supposedly died from a suspected overdose of Nembutal.  She is reported to be buried in Mt. Olive Cemetery in Washington, DC.

Some think she faked her death… some think she went into hiding.  Could it be that the Cafritz family, embarrassed by her behavior, did a massive cover up?  I could find no photos of Charlene Cafritz anywhere.

Her niece, Julia Cafritz, was a member of the somewhat successful noise band Pussy Galore… she then started the band Free Kitten.  She later got a degree in teaching.

Gwendolyn Cafritz (Charlene’s mother-in-law) was beaten and robbed at gunpoint of thousands of dollars in jewelry & cash, twice during home invasions.  She dropped out of society life in the 70’s, claiming poor health.  But… was she connecting the robberies to Charlene’s friendship with the Manson Family?
("Click" Below to Read This Newspaper Article)

Is there any connection with Charlene to Leno LaBianca because of the race horses??  Does anyone have any additional info on Charlene Cafritz?

Beauders’ sources: Gorightly, Sanders, and Levenda's "Sinister Forces: A Grimoire of American Political Witchcraft: The Manson Secret."
Katie’s sources: Truthontatelabianca.com, Ed Sanders
Thanks Katie and Beauders!!!!!
"Click" Below to Read About the Gwen Cafritz Robberies:


LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I'd love to get my hands on those “home movies” of Manson & the girls in Reno!

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Charlene's niece is quite the little peach.

"Pussy Galore" and "Free Kitten"... gotta love the band names!

If Charlene looked anything like her niece... I can see why Wilson decided to keep her around.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Thank You Katie and Beauders!!

You gals did a GREAT job, on a very interesting... and equally (very obscure) topic.

Trying to find information on Cafritz, is like trying to find duck's teeth... it's very difficult.

Kimchi suggested a thread on Cafritz months ago... I just never found the time.

ALL the bloggers here, never cease to amaze me, with their facts, knowledge and research.

Thanks Again!

... Lynyrd.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

If ANYONE can find a photo of Charlene Cafritz, please send it in...

Like I said... information on this woman is very sparse.

Peace... Lynyrd

katie8753 said...

From what I read, Charlene was quite a looker. Unfortunately, I found no pictures of her.

katie8753 said...

I would like to know more about those home movies too.

I'd also like to know which "3" girls went with Charlie to Reno.

I have my suspicions.

katie8753 said...

There are a lot of things I read in researching this thread that are innuendo and without basis, so I didn't include them in the thread, but will expound on them here in the comments.

I'd like to thank Beauders for her hard work on this thread, and also I'd like to thank Cats and her crew. I read through a lot of their research and it was very helpful.

And thanks Kimchi! You're the best! :)

starship said...

Interesting indeed. The sources leave much to be desired however.

But a grain of truth perhaps in this case is very intriguing.

katie8753 said...

Hi Starship.

I think this is an interesting part of the story because Charlene married into a very powerful family and she was evidently a bit of a "Flibbertigibbet".

It wasn't long after she married that she started hanging out with Brian Wilson. Not sure how and when she got from D.C. to California.

She later threw her money at Charlie. How much I'm not sure, but I've read it was quite a bit.

I'm sure this was embarrassing for the Cafritz family. Can you imagine the fallout when the TLB murderers were revealed and it was a group that Charlene had hung out with? WOW!

Venus said...

Whioh Wilson brother did she hang out with? In the thread, it says Dennis, but Katie mentions Brian in the comments. Was it both of them or was there a mix-up with the names?

Very interesting thread.

katie8753 said...

Oops Venus. You're right. I said Brian and I meant Dennis. Thanks!

Did you get my e-mail?

Venus said...

Yes, I did! Did you get my response? I haven't heard from you, maybe it's in your spam??

katie8753 said...

Okay Venus I just checked and I got your response.

I think we're on to something. HOO HOO!! Lynyrd's gonna LOVE this one. HA HA.

I'm replying to your e-mail now.


Venus said...

Check your e-mail again!

katie8753 said...

OK gotcha Venus! Thanks!

Patty is Dead said...

What was the name of the ranch in Reno that the Cafritz family owned - was it the Diamond Ranch? Home to today's 10050 Goler Wash Court that just sold on August 8? ooEEoo

katie8753 said...

Patty I'm not sure if the ranch in Reno where Charlene was staying was owned by the Cafritz family.

Does anyone else know???

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The Grand Polanise Brillante was brilliant. YEAH!!!!


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Anonymous said...

nobody knows anything about her except what you put in your post.
if you could get in touch with her niece somehow she might know something.
whether or not she wants to talk about its another story.

Anonymous said...

and if you do find her...get a phone number!

CarolMR said...

Years ago I read that Charlene was friends with Sharon, but I don't know if that's true and I don't remember the source.

Anonymous said...

Now Katie, you've forgotten an important one. The American King. Elvis!

Now there's a fucking stinker. There he is, lying on the bathroom floor. Shit running down his legs. A big rock of coke up his nose. Not bathed in fuckin years, apart from an "Elvis" special - a quick wipe of crotch & armpits with a damp flannel. That should do it, after a month of hot Vegas nights.

Lying there fitting, chewing on his bleeding hog tongue like a good 'un. Death rattle & roll. Too fat now to manage a sweaty, slathering five minute hump with some homely Memphis mom's 13 year old daughter (his favourite screw). All they do is cry anyway till the Colonel sweeps 'em back under the carpet with some carny cornball, slipping them a few greenbacks for a cab ride home with an armful of not fit-fer-sale merch and a warning to keep their traps shut.

The fat Belgian stands over his charge. The King is mumbling now about how Charlie used to drop by & show him some licks. Jailhouse freakin rock with Christ & the King! How many ripoff merchants can you fit into a hillbilly whorehouse?

It was said that he had so many painkillers rattling around inside of him at one point that they used to roll him around the floor of the studio for percussion effects.

I'm comin home, Satnin, he's saying to Mother. Still dreaming of when she used to climb into his bed. Shooting his whack as he flashes on those big white satin undercrackers of hers, way on down beneath fold after fold of blubbering flesh. Both these fuckers were so big & dirty they charged double at the undertakers. They buried the King under five tons of horse shit & no one noticed a thing, such was the stench of money pouring out of the RCA Victor dog's asshole as the cash registers of America rang out a familiar tune.

katie8753 said...

Cease2, you CRACK ME UP!!! HA HA HA!

I'm taking it that you didn't like "Elvis the Pelvis". Me neither. He was greasier than a lube job. And I HATED that "sneer".

Yeah he went from "halfway decent" to "lard ass". He died on the pot taking a huge shit.

Yeah his mama was fat too. I'll bet they had to empty out a couple of piano crates to accommodate that kinda poundage. HA HA.

katie8753 said...

Matt if I had the niece's phone number I'd give it to you. But I'd definitely warn you....make sure you wear a "raincoat". LOL.

katie8753 said...

Hi Carol. I read many places that Charlene attended Sharon's funeral. Like you, I don't know if it's the truth. It's just out there.

katie8753 said...

Well, off subject a bit, on the Conrad Murray trial, the defense took a heavy hit with the prosecution's final witness.

This is the guy who WROTE the instructions on how to administer Propofol that come with each vial. I mean...top that!! HA HA.

On the defense cross, the lead defense attorney was just being mean and attacking him personally. That's bad. The jury is going to see that.

Dr. Murray will soon be "Mr. Murray" if you get my drift.

katie8753 said...

And, last...but not least...there was a hearing yesterday to see if they can make the deposition of Casey Anthony public information. This is the civil suit levied at her for naming "Zanny the Nanny" as the kidnapper. The judge will rule in 10 days. Hoowaahhh!!

Also, in another session, the judge ruled that Texas Equisearch was going to be allowed to sue Casey Anthony for their waste of time searching for a missing girl that Casey knew was dead.

This just gets better and better!!

Anonymous said...

Hi Katie. Personally I prefer the Lard Ass Elvis. At least he was doing the music he loved, entertaining with a knowing smile, rather than pumping out that old Rock n Roll which he detested anyway. The old 50s rock sure changed the world & had vitality & the spark, but it was in reality a carny act just like the Colonel's dancing chickens & every other freak show on the circuit.

Any Elvis is better than that half-talent, kiddie-fiddling King of Pap though. Freakin Elvis-wannabe that he was. Married the King's daughter. Even copied his preference for long-term suicide via "rest cures". I don't think Elvis had a monkey that he'd beat the crap out of though. Beating on Bubbles was a rare slice of originality from the Papster it seems.

Poor old Conrad isn't gonna get off lightly like Elvis's Dr. Nick, I fear. But at least the children of California can sleep a little more safely now.

Anonymous said...

Correction... I think there was a chimp running round Graceland for a while. So Wacko even stole that idea! Punching the poor thing in the face was all his though.

Patty is Dead said...

Cease, that is some fucking beautiful writing. Worthy of Bukowski or Hunter S Thompson. Patty is in awe.

katie8753 said...

Yeah Cease2, MJ was a freak show deluxe. I'm surprised he lived as long as he did. A grown man that hung around with children??? No....he didn't molest anybody....Yeah right.

Bubbles probably had fun playing with the Elephant Man's bones, or napping in the hyperbaric chamber. LOL.

I wish I had been creative enough to name my son "blanket". HA HA.

Anonymous said...

Thanks Patty. Blushing at your comparison to two real deal talents for sure. Just verbal diarrhea on my part while all is quiet.

To be honest it's that Katie that can write up a storm. That gal can split my sides with half a dozen choice words. So long as I'm not the target of her ladyship's disaffection, that is. Ouch!

katie8753 said...

Cease2, you're very funny. Very good with words. Like an artist with a paintbrush. LOL!

katie8753 said...

Does anyone know what time the Garretson interview is today?

FrankM said...

katie8753 said...

Does anyone know what time the Garretson interview is today?

20.00 EST


katie8753 said...

Thanks Frank. I guess 20.00 equals 8pm Eastern in civilian time. LOL!

FrankM said...

Old habits die hard. Even though I've been a civilian for thirty years or so.

Eight o'clock in the evening, Greenpoint time.


katie8753 said...

Thanks Frank.

I'll bet you spell words by saying "Tango", "Delta", "Zulu" etc. HA HA.

Actually, it makes it easier to understand. :)

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Hello Everyone... just checking-in.

I'm going to try and make the Garretson interview tonight.
It's a busy evening, so I'm 50-50 at best.

Hopefully, someone (if not me) will take a few notes.

From what I hear, Garretson discusses Sharon carrying twins, in this segment. LOL
This guy is truly a journey into the bizarre.

The sad part, is that some of his testimony may be 100% accurate (as Starship suggested)... but, it's tainted by so much delusion here-and-there... you basically have to dismiss the whole mess.
When you're forced to "pick and choose" what makes sense... it becomes an exercise in futility.

Oh well... "it is, what it is", as they say...

If nothing else, Tom should prove to be an absolute scream in the comments section, if Garretson goes off the deep end again. LOLOL

katie8753 said...

Well the Garretson interview was disappointing again. Nothing new. Just a bunch of hogwash about Rosie claiming to be Sharon's daughter, running up his phone bill, calling him and leaving nasty messages, etc.

Nothing revealed at all except that mental illness is rampant in this case.

He states that Rudy hired a lawyer for him, which may or may not be true.

He remembers things in triplicate, or not at all.

I guess he's just another TLB victim. Only he didn't die yet.

What I wish is that we could get him to talk to Tex or Pat. And ask them why they did what they did.

But I guess that won't happen.

The problem with interviews with any of these people is that you can bet they're not going to tell the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth.

It just ain't happenin'.

katie8753 said...

Hey Tom. I didn't see you at the "interview". What happened?

FoRseeR said...

I have a watercolor signed by a Charleen Lawley. I've searched online for artwork done by her with no success in finding any of the work she's done. Does anyone know if Charleen Lawley, maybe aka Cafritz, was an artist?

Unknown said...

Does anyone know Charlene's date of birth?

Unknown said...

I found something that says she was born in 1947

Unknown said...

Like so many people in this case, here is another one who has no listing in the Social Security Death index. Very odd.

Dcembre said...


Unknown said...

I have seen some of the "Manson Home Movies". If you contact me privately on FB I'll tell you who has some.


Kenneth Irked said...

There's a cafritz involved in the latest stupid cult hoodwink, nxivm

Charlie Law said...

Some rare Charlene Marie Lawley’s school year books, with her pictures & personal items are available on eBay as of September 2020

Kenneth Irked said...

You can see photos of Charlene hanging out with John Arthur Reed Pepper

lol a thorough scrubbing means you are on the right track

"you know it's all a play, don't you?"
~uncle Charlie 1970

PaulH said...

How can I contact you Sharmagne. Thanks, Paul Hart