Wednesday, June 5, 2013

Leslie Van Houten's 20th Parole Hearing

Current Excerpts from Today's Hearing.

Leslie:
"I know I did something that is unforgiveable, but I can create a world where I make amends.  I'm trying to be someone who lives a life for healing rather than destruction."  

"Manson could never have done what he did without people like me," said Van Houten, who has been in custody for 44 years.

After years of therapy and self-examination, she said, she realizes that what she did was "like a pebble falling in a pond which affected so many people."


"Mr. and Mrs. La Bianca died the worst possible deaths a human being can," she said. "It affected their families. It affected the community of Los Angeles, which lived in fear. And it destroyed the peace movement going on at the time, and tainted everything from 1969 on."


Now deeply wrinkled with long gray hair tied back in a ponytail, Van Houten at times seemed near tears but did not break down at the Wednesday hearing.


She said in strong terms that she had never resisted Manson's call to participate in fomenting a race-based revolution.  She said that when she heard the Manson family had killed Tate and others, she felt left out and asked to go along the second night.


Parole board commissioner Jeffrey Ferguson asked her, "You felt left out and you wanted to be included the next time, is that correct?"


"Yes," Van Houten said, adding that another of the women tried with Manson, Patricia Krenwinkel, had been like a sister to her and she knew that Krenwinkel had participated in the first round of killing.


"She had crossed the line in her commitment to the race war and I wanted to cross the line, too. ... It was something that had to be done," she said.


Van Houten said she was heavily into drugs at that time, using everything from marijuana to LSD and methamphetamines. But she said on the night the La Biancas were slain she was not on drugs.


Ferguson asked if she had any moral compunction about what she was doing.  She said she did not.


"I twisted myself to the point where I thought this had to be done and I participated," she said.Asked if she would have done the same had children been involved, she answered, "I can't say I wouldn't have done that. I'd like to say I wouldn't, but I don't know."


Asked to explain her actions, she said, "I feel that at that point I had really lost my humanity and I can't know how far I would have gone. I had no regard for life and no measurement of my limitations."


Van Houten has previously been commended for her work helping elderly women inmates at the California Institution for Women where she and other Manson women have been incarcerated. She earned two college degrees while in custody.


If paroled, she would be reversing a trend. Other members of Manson's murderous "family" have lost bids for parole.


The panel was also set to hear from a prosecutor and relatives of the victims opposed to parole. A decision could be made later in the day.

By LINDA DEUTSCH 06/05/13 03:34 PM ET EDT

16 comments:

katie8753 said...

Van Houten has previously been commended for her work helping elderly women inmates at the California Institution for Women where she and other Manson women have been incarcerated.

Helping elderly women??? What does she think she is??? LOL.

Venus said...

LOLOLOLOL

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

She got old on me.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

She's not elderly, she's "mature". LOL
63 is the new 40.
: )

In fairness, I really don't consider someone "elderly" (in the truest sense of the word) until they're 75+... 70 minimum.

Venus said...

True, but most communities for the elderly start letting you move in when you're 55!

katie8753 said...

If these parole hearings take so long, they should start them at 5am.

katie8753 said...

Venus I love your new avatar! :)

Venus said...

Thanks, I got bored with the other one!

katie8753 said...

"I know I did something that is unforgiveable, but I can create a world where I make amends. I'm trying to be someone who lives a life for healing rather than destruction."

Wow, too bad she didn't think of that earlier. That's a far cry from "sorry is just a word".

Katie Green said...
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bobby said...

I think Leslie would be a perfect trail balloon to be let out to gage public reaction with.
No one serves 44 years for what she did and most people would know that while the media would try to start a shit storm.
She was out on bail 40 years and had a job for crying out loud.
Let her out guage the reaction & then consider Bruce, Then Pat when she is 75 or 80.
The two chucks never.

bobby said...

off topic:
I live out in the country & yesterday my wife came home to find our yellow lab ( Buddy ) to be missing. His collar broke. I rushed home & covered 25 square miles walking & driving no buddy to be found. I called a friend with a blood hound for help and he came over with Brugger the blood hound.That wasnt working out & he suggested 911 so I called & sure enough they said they could check animal control & call me back. % minutes later they call back & say a lady 30 miles from my house picked up a lab on my street and was on her way to the pound 10 miles the other direction from me. so, holy shit this lady in a Jag u ar driving down my road see my lab dodging cars & picks him up. Takes him home & gives him a bath. He then cause's issues with her four other dogs so she calls the pound near me to take him there. They call her just before she gets there with my phone # and 20 minutes later she pulls in my drivway with Buddy riding shot gun in her Jag u r. Buddy loves me more than anyone in my house and I was so happy & relived to have him home.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Awesome story Bob!
Thanks for sharing!

I'm so glad your dog is home safely!

You ROCK!!!!!

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I agree.
Leslie would probably be the safest "litmus test".

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Bob.

Feel free to join us a couple threads up.
(New thread above)

zeb doz said...

i think that Leslie has more than done her time and if anyone of you have ant mercy go to this site and sign the petition please

http://www.petition2congress.com/9848/leslie-van-houten-approve-parole-state-california/?src=widget