Friday, December 2, 2011

I'm not quite sure what to make of this announcement, from the good folks at "Helterskelterforum.com".  It seems someone on EBay is auctioning-off, a cameo role... in the "Manson Girls" Movie??  Check it out for yourself:
http://www.mansongirlsauction.com/
"A very exciting once in a lifetime opportunity for a "WALK ON ROLE" to be auctioned off on ebay in December 2011 for one lucky winner who may be viewed by millions on screen.  Includes lunch on the set as well as autographs from the "Manson Girls" actors.  Winner will also receive 2 tickets to the world famous Helter Skelter official tour  personally hosted by Scott Michaels of "Six Degrees of Helter Skelter" documentary.  This is the official "Manson Girls" auction info site for any and all screen worn items and used props from the film. More info will be updated later.  Bookmark this page for updates".

114 comments:

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Wouldn't it be hilarious, if someone from the blogs won this auction!
LOLOL

You're sitting there eating your popcorn at the movies... and suddenly, like AC strolls by on the screen...
AHahahaha

That would be f#cking awesome!

I'd probably stand up, and scream:
"Hey everyone, I know that woman"!!!
LOLOL

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Then, I'd probably be quietly escorted out of the theater...

LOL

Nimrod said...

They shouldn't even bother with the Ebay thing.

I have a much better idea for who should get the walk on spot.

Suzanna Lo should pick up the phone and fly in the White Rabbitt from Austin and put him in that movie.

Even i would pay to see that.

Suzanna Lo could put in a love scene with the White Rabbitt and Sadie down by the waterfall at Spahn where they have their sleeping bags after a long night of star gazing up in the Santa Susana hills.

The Ebay thing is cheap publicity, but the White Rabbitt is a Legend.

Get him on film balling with Sadie one last time.

I should have written this script for Suzanna Lo. It would have been a cinematic masterpiece.

I could become the next Roman Polanski !

Mrstormsurge said...

There's gonna be a smoking baby in this flick.

Oh yes!! Believe it. And I want him the scene where they raid Spahn Ranch.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

"Get him on film balling with Sadie one last time".

AHahahaha
LMAO!

I've never been (personally) convinced that White Rabbit's connection to the family was anything more than incidental at best.
I take his accounts, with a huge grain of salt.

Also...
White Rabbit's naked body, is one visual, I can definitely live without...

But, having said that:
That's the funniest freakin' post I've read in a while... and, I needed a good laugh.

Thanks Jim!
I just laughed my ass off...

I think we're going to see more "lesbian grinding" in this one, than real "60's balling"... but, I could be wrong.
: )

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Stormsurge said:
>>>>"There's gonna be a smoking baby in this flick.
Oh yes!! Believe it. And I want him the scene where they raid Spahn Ranch".
<<<<

Looks like Stormsurge is heading to the EBay auction!!!

: )

Mrstormsurge said...

I also want a courtroom scene where Smoking Baby is seated next to the Lynette and Sandy in the gallery just shaking his head when Bugliosi is ranting.

katie8753 said...

Let me get this straight...

If I'm the high bidder on E-bay, then in essence, I'm paying these people to be in their crappy movie.

Well if I'm paying them, I want a whole hellava lot more than lunch with the girls and getting their autographs, which are worth virtually nothing.

I guess I'd be paying my airfare to and from LA as well.

Wow! It doesn't get any better than that. HA HA.

katie8753 said...

Lynyrd said: I think we're going to see more "lesbian grinding" in this one, than real "60's balling"... but, I could be wrong.

HA HA HA. No I think you're exactly right. From what I've seen, they don't even need men in this movie to have sex scenes. LOL.

katie8753 said...

Hey Stormy, why don't you use your smoking baby avatar here? I'd like to see it. :)

lurch said...

Maybe whoever wins this can appear on camera wearing a shirt that says "Got truth?"......one thing I'm guessin this movie's gonna be WAY short on!

At least ya also get 2 tix to the Helter Skelter tour with Scott. I went on this a few weeks ago, and was really impressed. Lots of locations were covered and his info was 95% accurate. If you're gonna see the sights but hate drivin in LA, this is the way to go.

katie8753 said...

Hi Lurch.

If Susanna Lo knows Scott Michaels, then she should have had him be a consultant. I wonder what he thinks of this mess. LOL.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Hi Lurch!

Just curious... how much does Scott charge these days?

I did a thread on the tour, but I'm too lazy to go look... and anyway, the prices are probably outdated by now anyway... LOL

Is it a half day?
Full day?

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Seriously Katie...
Who are you kidding?
If you won the EBay auction, this movie would not happen.

With you on the set...
ZERO filming could take place.

As soon as two women began to kiss... you'd freak!

As soon as anyone tried to kill anyone... you'd freak!

As soon as Manson began his rap... you'd freak!

As soon as "the family" began singing... you'd freak!

Drugs... Freak!
Tex... Freak!
Cult behavior... Freak!
AHahahaha

"CUT"!!!!
LMAO

leary7 said...

Hey Lynyrd...can I ask a favor. Being a newbie to the TLB arena I have no idea who White Rabbit is. And the fact that the post said he was in Austin where I also live has me curious. Can you give me a quick scouting report please. Thanks.
Actually, that might be a cool thread someday. When I was in grad school I did a film called "Decades of Doubt" that looked at about a dozen of the most prominent JFK conspiracy buffs and how their obsession had dominated their lives. I'd really love to read something comprehensive on say a half dozen of the more notorious "Manson experts". Personally, I often find the posters more interesting than the post. Who wouldn't want to sit on a cliff and have a beer with you and Katie and Brownrice and Dickhead and such. Interesting folk all.

katie8753 said...

Lynyrd you're right. If I was on the set, I'll tell Susanna "If you're gonna make stuff up, let's do it right". In my version, the victims kill the killers.

For instance, when Bobby, Sadie and Mary are terrorizing Gary and demanding money, Gary can go into a Zen-like chant. Suddenly the house starts shaking, and then the killers' faces melt off like the Nazis in the Raiders of the Lost Ark movie.

Or....at Cielo Drive, instead of Steven saying "Don't hurt me, I won't tell", he puts the car in 1st gear and guns it, tires spinning and blowing dirt and rocks back, and mows down Tex and the girls. The next scene shows them lying on the ground with tire prints all over them. Then Steven busts down the gate and goes speeding off into the night, laughing his ass off. LOLOL.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Hello Leary!

White Rabbit's real name is Larry Melton.

Melton... by most people's standards (in TLB-Land), is by no means an expert.

Melton "claims" to have been "family inner-circle".
I've seen little facts to support this... none actually.

It seems he MAY have met Lynn Fromme at some point.

Evidently...
Melton did manage to convince enough folks (Bill Nelson for one), that he was in-fact connected... and he was interviewed by the police, and led them essentially on a wild goose... a dig at Barker's, which yielded nothing...

He's been interviewed a few times by police...

He wrote a book of some sort... which I've heard looks like a coloring book, illustrated by a special needs individual.

According to the Colonel, he's a registered sex offender.
Colonel has maintained this several times.

I literally took one look at Melton's photo years ago... and dismissed him as a wacko...

Here's a photo of him on Colonel's:

Take a look for yourself...

Would you give this guy's testimony a whole lot of creedence?

http://tatelabianca.blogspot.com/2006/03/white-sad-sack-of-shit.html

Weigh-in on Melton folks...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Leary...

My personal opinion... is that Melton... beyond "freak curiousity"... (the kind you have when staring at a car accident)... is not worth investing a whole lot of research into...

I did see interview footage of Melton once (on Jim's old channel actually)... where Melton testified to a "drug motive" for the Tate killings.

He explained that Tate was drug motivated... and he did a pretty damn good job of it.
He told the classic "drug motive story".
Ya know... Tex was in-charge... yada, yada, yada... which we've all heard a thousand times.
He related it, pretty much "chapter and verse".

But to me...
It still doesn't prove he was 'connected"... as, I could relate that story "chapter and verse" myself (at this point)... and I certainly wasn't there...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Starship... Saint... Beauders...

What's your take on this Melton character?

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Leary,

From what I know of Kimchi...

She's one individual, who could probably offer many more specifics regarding Melton.

She could likely expound on my views... and maybe make a few corrections.
If she doesn't know... no one does.

I'm not sure however, if she's around... or so inclined.

She's kinda "tight-lipped" sometimes... LOL

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Leary...

Check this Out.

Go here, and run a sex offender search for Larry Melton:

Two Larry Meltons will come-up... (with the search results).
He's the SECOND one.
Larry ALAN Melton.
Birthday 12/09/1948

https://records.txdps.state.tx.us/DPS_W ... hType=Name

Cease2 said...

White Rabbit letter to blue

... http://www.thezodiacmansonconnection.com/white_rabbitt_letter.html

Cease2 said...

The last part of that link should read ... white_rabbitt_letter.html

Kimchi said...

He's on FB Lynyrd...

http://www.facebook.com/#!/profile.php?id=818403636

I think he was trying to sell the vest he has on in his profile pix..I think someone bought it too...

He sells drawings and artwork...and yes, people buy that stuff too.

katie8753 said...

Cease, thanks for posting the link to that letter. I finally got thru it. Wow...that guy slants to the right a lot. LOL.

Do you know when this was written? He says he lives in Abilene, Texas, not Austin, Texas. He says that the dig at Barker's was a wild goose chase so he could have a vacation.

He's also alluding to the fact that Zero & Joel were murdered. Interesting stuff!

katie8753 said...

He talks about Charlie shooting people. I wasn't sure what he was talking about. Was that at Barker's?

Nimrod said...

katie8753 said...

>>>He talks about Charlie shooting people. I wasn't sure what he was talking about. Was that at Barker's?<<<

Yes, that was up at Barker Ranch.

Not only did he personally witness Charles Manson execute 2 teens (2 guys and 1 girl), but he also dug the hole and carried the bodies and deposited them into the hole with a little help from Bruce and Sadie.

If you want to see and hear more of this saga, contact Mike from the BackporchTapes. He has it all on film and it's a "Must See".

Craziest shit i ever saw in connection to this case.

I put the 1998 White Rabbitt Inyo County DA Interview right up there with The Rocky Horror Picture Show or Monty Python's Life of Bryan. It's the kind of stuff that you could play at a midnight showing and people would actually come out and pay to watch it.

As far as the Sex Offender charge goes, I believe that Larry is no longer officially listed in that category.

Larry did make his way down to Spahn but, from what i had heard, the rumor was that he had spoken to Gypsy on the phone who thought he sounded cute and invited him to come down to the ranch.

Apparently something happened after that which resulted in Larry being asked to leave.

I've heard multiple stories about the White Rabbit at Spahn but it all comes down to who you talk to.

But the White Rabbitt in a Suzanna Lo film on the same set with a new Sexy Sadie ....... hey, it's Alice in Wonderland all over again.

katie8753 said...

Thanks Jimmy.

This is one of the reasons this case just fascinates me. There are so many twists and turns. Stephen King couldn't write a novel with this much intrigue.

Okay, so some say this White Rabbit is nuts and others believe him. I wonder if there is any proof to any of this one way or another.

But, usually it's only just someone's opinion.

Cease2 said...

Hi Katie. The letter seems to be post 1998, when the Barkers dig took place (i think). It was writted from the max-security Robertson Unit in Abilene apparently.

Melton is, i think, generally regarded as a Family wannabe, teller of tales and all-round nut.

At most, I think he has been trading on his acquaintance with the Family back in the day, as one of the many, many unsavoury characters to visit Spahn's dump... er, Ranch.

katie8753 said...

Well according to the Texas DPS Crime Records, Mr. Rabbit was caught with child pornography in 1997 & 1999.

He's 5'9", 140 lbs, size 11-1/2 EE shoe (big foot).

It says in 2001 he was in Huntsville (not Abilene like in his letter to Blue).

It indicates that he's on parole and he doesn't live in Texas. Address unknown.

I'm thinking Mr. Melton isn't so truthful after all. LOL.

katie8753 said...

Thanks Cease. I think that last dig at Barker's Ranch was in 2008.

This guy is leaving too many holes in his story. I tend to agree with you that he's spinning yarns. He's obviously not an upstanding guy. LOL.

Cease2 said...

katie8753 said... "I tend to agree with you that he's spinning yarns."

Yeah, Katie. I think the reason he mentions Marina Habe & various other killings is to reel in Bill Nelson for a few more free lunches (plus get more of the attention he so craves).

Bing said...

I don't think that is his FB page. looking at his wall he has a lot of interests that are Canadian. IT's Some clown posing to be him...why anyone would want to be him is beyond me though

katie8753 said...

Bing I thought that too. He has The Jonas Brothers and Disney movies listed as his favorites. That doesn't sound like a Mansonite pedophile ex-con to me. LOL.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Jim said:
>>>>"I've heard multiple stories about the White Rabbit at Spahn but it all comes down to who you talk to".<<<<

Well said Jim... and very, very accurate.

At the end of the day, it really does all come down to who you talk to...

Some folks believe his every word... he does have some friends.

Some folks claim he visited the ranch for a week... was kicked-out... and has since, spent a lifetime expanding that one week, into a "tale of two cities". LOL

Some folks dismiss him totally, as a complete freak... who has fabricated everything from begininng, to end.

So yes... it really does come down to several opinions.

There could be evidence out there, which proves one of these three opinons accurate... but, I've yet to see it.
And... I really haven't spent a whole lot of time looking either...

My opinion, is that he likely had some "incidental contact" with the family... maybe stayed at the ranch for a week... and the rest is bunk.

For starters...
If he's so "inner-circle", why aren't there a gazillion photos of this guy at the ranch, and on the street corner... like all the other "inner-circle members"?

SECOND...
Bear in mind, "the family" really did (by all accounts) pick-up good-looking, intelligent, talented folks.
These kids were either musicians, very intelligent, very attractive... or, all three.
I really believe, Manson surrounded himself with folks who had potential... folks who could prove useful in some way.
So I ask?
Where does Melton fit-in to that equation?
Not to be a jerk... but, let's be frank... Melton definitely wasn't good-looking.
He definitely wasn't a genius.
To my knowledge, he had no musical skills.

The only thing I can see Manson using Melton for... is a fall-guy... a scapegoat.
(And, I've heard that version before too.)
Wasn't Melton supposed to be hired to carry-out "copy-cat killings", or some shit???
Like I said... a "fall-guy"...

My knowledge of Melton is admittedly limited... but, I just don't see Manson (or the others), on-fire to keep a guy like Melton around for too long.
I give him a week or so, at the ranch... tops.

BUT AGAIN...
I can't prove my opinion... and hence... it remains only an opinion.

As Jim said it best:
"I've heard multiple stories about the White Rabbit at Spahn but it all comes down to who you talk to".

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Jim said:
>>>>"Yes, that was up at Barker Ranch.
Not only did he personally witness Charles Manson execute 2 teens (2 guys and 1 girl), but he also dug the hole and carried the bodies and deposited them into the hole with a little help from Bruce and Sadie.
If you want to see and hear more of this saga, contact Mike from the BackporchTapes. He has it all on film and it's a "Must See".
Craziest shit i ever saw in connection to this case".
<<<<

Jim... do you have any vague recollection of the title to this footage?

I suppose it's not necessary.
I could ask Michael, based on the topic only... and, he'd probably know what I'm referring to.... but, a title could prove helpful.

Nimrod said...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

>>>>
Jim... do you have any vague recollection of the title to this footage?

I suppose it's not necessary.
I could ask Michael, based on the topic only... and, he'd probably know what I'm referring to.... but, a title could prove helpful.
<<<<

The dvd that i have is the "White Rabbitt 1998 Inyo County Da Interview"

I had originally sent mike the dvd that i had purchased from Supernaught many years ago and Mike took that footage and remodeled it into a professional looking CD.

Personally, it's a classic interview because, like the new Suzanna Lo movie, it's pure entertainment.

How Larry can say the things that he said to the Inyo County Sherrifs Dept people with a straight face is beyond me. Larry gives an academy award winning performance in this interview.

There's stuff in this interview that is so "over the top" that you're literally stunned when you hear what he says.

Mike may have some clips in his library of that interview or you could ask him if he can make a copy for you.

If you haven't seen this interview, then you're missing out on some fantastic tuff.

Some of my favorite moments from that interview was when larry told the Inyo County Sherrifs Departement people about the murders of the 3 teens that took place inside Barker Ranch with Charlie using a .45 calibur pistol.

Then he goes into how he helped Bruce and Sadie bury the bodies.

He also talks about how Sandy and Squeeky wanted him to take a few girls and go up to Berkely and duplicate the Tate Murders.

They also wanted Larry to assassinate Linda Kasabian.

This interview is pure comedy and runs for about 1 hour and 45 minutes.

I lost count of how many times that Larry told the Inyo folks that balled Sexy Sadie. It was probably a miracle that she could walk after all that pounding she took at the hands of the great furry hippie legend.

There's so much good stuff here. It's a must see if you have never viewed this thing before.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

AHahahaha

Jim at his finest.

Very informative... yet hilarious!

What more could anyone ask for?

Jeez... almost 2 hours of footage?
That might be a little tough to upload... but, I'll look into it.

I'm working on 6 things simultaneously... but, that footage just made my list...
(along with the Frank Howard movie).

My list is endless...

katie8753 said...

>>>Jimmy said: I lost count of how many times that Larry told the Inyo folks that balled Sexy Sadie. It was probably a miracle that she could walk after all that pounding she took at the hands of the great furry hippie legend.>>>

HA HA HA HA HA!!!!! That's a good one!

katie8753 said...

This guy Melton is scary. He believes his own lies. Just like Casey Anthony.

Doh....I had to bring her up again. LOL.

TomG said...

Don't get me started on Casey Anthony. I'm trying to keep that little ho in the rear view mirror.

katie8753 said...

Sorry Tom.

I'm presently reading Jeff Ashton's book about the prosecution's roadblocks in the trial, and it's even plainer to me now what kind of lying, soul-less banshee she is. Spawn of Beelzebub or Ba'al.

She'll get her comeuppance. That I know.

Maybe she and Larry Melton can hook up. I'd like to see the first "copy cat killing" done on her. LOL.

TomG said...

She forged checks from her own grandmother. She forged checks from her friend and roomate. She fraudlently ran up her own mother's credit card. She threw her own loyal father under the bus by portraying him as a child molester to save her own ass.

And she murdered her little girl.

She don't get a Christmas card from me this year, that beeeatch...

lurch said...

If ya have some time to kill, over at Cat's site (ToTLB) she was kind enough to transcribe Melton's unpublished ( and IMO unpublishable) manuscript. It ain't an easy read.....especially if you have an actual copy of this mess.

Among the Rabbit's claims:
1) He hooked-up with the family late 67
2) The family definately killed Habe....who apparently was a family regular herself
3) He was the one Sadie balled after the Tate murders
4) Charlie miraculously re-attached Clem's penis after a fellatio session gone wrong
5) The previously mentioned murders/burials at Barker

For what it's worth, I think the guy's a class-one nutjob! The only other Manson related manuscript I've read that was as bad/worse than Rabbit's was a pathetic mess called "A Psychosexual History of The Manson Family". THAT is truely a piece of garbage!

katie8753 said...

Tom, she threw her whole family under the bus. She said her brother molested her. Then she said her father did, but later said she couldn't remember.

Her mother lied on the stand to save her sorry ass, and how does she respond? She hasn't even spoken to her. She has cut all ties with her own mother.

Everyone in her life was expendable. It was/is all about her.

To steal from your own grandmother is so pathetic I can't even think about it, but to kill your daughter and the next day you're out writing hot checks on your "best friend's" account, laughing and buying things to go out on the town is so reprehensible I can't even imagine it.

That jury was retarded. I can't BELIEVE they let her go. Disgusting!!

TomG said...

What sort of human being is this, anyway?

And I usually defend the lost and the despised by the masses. That is my Catholic upbringing. No jokes, please. But I'm going to take a pass on this Bee-aatch. ( I learned that bee-aatch thing from facebook )

MrPoirot said...

White Rabbit is one of those guys who sees a concert as a momentous event in their life. He did cross paths with the Family at Spahn Ranch but unfortunantly he embellishes so often that his experiences arent worth reading. It's obvious that he did not see Chsrlie shoot 3 people in Death Valley because Charlie never shot anyone in DV. Other people also have made similar claims but all the "Charlie killed so&so" in DV stories are all just tall tales they heard. If Charlie did kill anyone in Death Valley then everyone would know that and say that but they don't.

katie8753 said...

Hi Lurch!

I agree, Melton's claims to fame are dubious at best.

>>>He was the one Sadie balled after the Tate murders>>>

She says it was Clem.

>>>The family definately killed Habe....who apparently was a family regular herself>>>

I really doubt this. This occurred in January 1969, and I think people try to say the Manson Family did it for the ferociousness of the murder.

But you can't just place blame on the Manson Family for that reason.

Just like the murder of Karl Stubbs in Olancha. Just because it involved young people and careless disregard for life, you can't just pin that on the Manson Family. It doesn't make sense.

Look at the Black Dahlia. That was much more ferocious than Marina Habe. And you can't blame that on Charlie....it was before his time. LOL

MrPoirot said...

I have to wonder if Sussanh Lo used White Rabbit as her expert for her silly movie? I'm surprised she doesn't have the Beatles playing a jam with Charlie at Spahn Ranch.

katie8753 said...

Tom, Casey is NOT a human being. She's an "it".

And I don't buy it that her family turned her into what she is.

She had a completely "normal" upbringing...upper middle class.
No abuse there. Period.

She devolved into what she is by her own liking. She's a narcissistic sociopath who will kill again. There's no doubt in my mind.

Because she has no regrets, no conscience, she regards everyone as a liability and a stepping stone to whatever level she wants to achieve.

Nothing is viable to her but herself.

She just needs to die. And I hope when she does, her daughter Caylee will make sure the rest of eternity will be unimaginably horrific.

katie8753 said...

>>>Mr. P. said: I have to wonder if Sussanh Lo used White Rabbit as her expert for her silly movie? I'm surprised she doesn't have the Beatles playing a jam with Charlie at Spahn Ranch.>>>

I don't think even White Rabbit would have come up with this nonsense that Susanna Lo came up with. LOL.

I think she's just "whistlin' in the wind".

I mean...Sadie shooting Gary in the mouth? Charlie stabbing Gary? Get outta here!!!

I haven't even seen the Cielo Drive parts. Good Lord, they may have some kind of sex scene with Sadie, Katie & Sharon & Gibby.

Lord have mercy on us all!!! GAG!!!

v717 said...

Correct me if I´m wrong but isn´t it Larry Melton who is in this clip?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmk2T1q23aU

TomG said...

You aren't wrong. Yup. That's him. Good find, little v717!

Kimchi said...

Bing said"

"I don't think that is his FB page. looking at his wall he has a lot of interests that are Canadian. IT's Some clown posing to be him...why anyone would want to be him is beyond me though"

Yes, it is... that is his FB Page..and it is not someone posing as him.. and I don't care if you believe it or not..

Lynyrd, why do I even bother?

V17 - yes, that is him, at 1:48.

TomG said...

Larry Melton had a thing for lady wrestlers. On his youtube channel he had videos from the Shimmer wrestling promotion. He liked badass women.

And so do I. But why ruin your brain with strong drugs just because you might be a little different?

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Melton also re-appears in V717's video clip, at 2:13... through to the end.

katie8753 said...

Okay folks, I'm going to bed.

Kimchi, you've been on this blog since we started. If you say the FB page is Melton, then so be it.

I've got your back. LOL.

Bing, nothing against you. Maybe there's more to this than meets the eye!

Night all!!!

beauders said...

larry melton wa friends with bill nelson. he is a pedaphile who was found to have child porn on his computer and a under age girlfriend. he went to prison for this.
sandy and squeaky did want him to go to berkeley and repeat the tate/
labianca murders there. he wouldn't so he went into hiding when they put out they wanted him to be murdered.
after enough time passed melton decided the best thing he could do for manson was run for mayor of berkeley on the "free charles manson ticket."
ed sanders did use melton as a source and some of his more bizarre info. came from melton such as having sex with animal blood being dripped on the participants. it was sanders who told nelson that melton was a reliable source.

beauders said...

melton did claim that it was he who atkins had sex with the night of the tate murders. he said they were so turned on by the murders that it was the best sex he ever had. just remember atkins green goo.
melton had nelson so snowed that nelson did instigate with inyo county officials a dig a barkers in 2008. they flew melton to ca. took him to barkers with nelson and dug for several days in 120 degree weather but found nothing. i don't think debra tate was involved in this dig, but i would have loved to seen her face if she did meet this creep.
melton is such an acid causalty that he actually collects disability. he told the authorties that he was a former member of the manson family and gave him permanent disability benefits.

MrPoirot said...

Beauders do you think Melton was at Spahn Ranch the night of the murders? No one else present places him there that night.

adam said...

Melton is full of shit. He convinced the cops that Manson killed many people and had them buried out in the desert. They bought his lies and dug up half of California and guess what? They found FUCK ALL. All those sniffer dogs and modern forensic teams and they didn't even find a chicken bone out there.

Jiri said...

First post for this lurker.

I agree. Melton's credibility is less than zero and shouldn't even be considered.

katie8753 said...

Hi Jiri. Welcome! Glad to have you!

Mr. P., good question. Evidently Melton is claiming to have been at Spahn's Ranch the night of the Cielo Drive murders. This seems preposterous.

As Lynyrd pointed out, why isn't he in any of the pictures?

>>>Beauders said: after enough time passed melton decided the best thing he could do for manson was run for mayor of berkeley on the "free charles manson ticket.">>>

Are you kidding me??? This guy sounds like he should be locked up somewhere and the key neatly discarded in the trash.

I mean..he sounds seriously deranged.

Mrstormsurge said...

He told some story about Charlie magically reattaching Clem's penis. I got this image of a flying weiner eventually rejoining itself to Clem. No wonder Sadie felt he was her best lay. I'm putting him in the "cuckoo" box till proven otherwise.

katie8753 said...

Hi Stormy! Love that avatar! HA HA.

Sanders relates the wiener-attachment story in his book. Some girl got carried away with some "lusty lip love".

These are the kind of touches that he added to his book that I'm shaking my head and saying "no way Jose". LOL.

MrPoirot said...

One of the girls remembered seeing Rabbit at Spahn Ranch.

katie8753 said...

Which girl Mr. P?

adam said...

Clem thought his penis had come off but on closer inspection by Charlie, it was just hiding behind a pube. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

katie8753 said...

Adam said: Clem thought his penis had come off but on closer inspection by Charlie, it was just hiding behind a pube. Never let the truth get in the way of a good story.

That's probably much closer to the truth. HA HA HA!!

Nimrod said...

beauders said...

>>>sandy and squeaky did want him to go to berkeley and repeat the tate<<<

You're kidding right?

I always thought that was a fairy tale that he made up?

Why would anyone send the White Rabbitt on a mission like that knowing that he'd probably end up cleaning his own blood off the walls?

I still can't believe that one. That's "No Sense Makes Sense" on Steriods.

I still can't imagine that one.


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katie8753 said...

>>>This guy Melton is scary. He believes his own lies. Just like Casey Anthony.<<<

Did the White Rabbitt say that he balled her too?


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MrPoirot said...

>>>One of the girls remembered seeing Rabbit at Spahn Ranch.<<<

Yeah, he would be kind of hard to forget about. Gypsy had to have seen him since what i had heard involved her.


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TomG said...

>>>Larry Melton had a thing for lady wrestlers. On his youtube channel he had videos from the Shimmer wrestling promotion. He liked badass women.<<<

Yeah, he liked to watch pretty girls fight in the ring for his own sick entertainment. They don't fight to the death yet, but give it time, Obama has to keep the sheep entertained while they get stripped of everything.

As far as Larry goes with the wrestling, Pitbulls and chickens just didn't do it for him. It had to be hot chicks abusing each other while geeks look on.


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beauders said...

>>>>melton did claim that it was he who atkins had sex with the night of the tate murders. <<<<

"My only interest up at Barker was Balling Sexy Sadie. That's all i thought about 24/7" - White Rabbitt 1998 Inyo County DA statement.


>>> melton is such an acid causalty that he actually collects disability.<<<

A free trip up to Barker Ranch in Death Valley and free cash from the Govt?

Here i was thinking he was stupid but the guy is a friggin genious.


"The Life and Psychedlic Times of a Legendary Hippie in the Famed Summer of Love and the Manson Family"

"All the Federalis say, they could have had him any day, they only let him go so long, out of kindness i suppose" - Willie Nelson

katie8753 said...

>>>Jimmy said: Did the White Rabbitt say that he balled her (Casey Anthony) too?>>>

HA HA HA. Talk about Sadie skank.

If he balled the queen of the skanks, Casey, not only would his dick fall off, his Social Security Disability checks would be forged and spent by Casey.

katie8753 said...

Casey would be the QUEEN of the government, owning President Osama by now.

She'd be forging checks off Osama's account by now, making the Miz uncomfortable by charging hotel rooms, barrooms, doing dirty dancing, stomping on her dead daughter's grave, all the while drinking champagne toasts from a dirty slipper, like Cinderella.

Unlike Cinderella, her clock won't stop at midnight. She can boogie all the rest of her fucking life.

Even the fuck-tard jury can't say no.

Maybe they've even joined in.

Maybe the jury has joined the Casey Coven and is trying to conjour up the missing Caylee.

Hooollll...aaaaa. Hhoooommmpppaaa.

HA HA.

No can do.

katie8753 said...

In my opinion, Casey Anthony, killing her own daughter, and the very next day stealing checks from her "best friend" and forging checks to go on a spending spree, with her dead daughter in her trunk for 2 days, lying, lying and lying about everything Caylee, getting a tatoo, dancing her ass off, getting in men's faces hoping to get some horizontal mamba, then throwing her daughter in the dump with some "heart stickers" and "winnie the pooh blankets", encased in 2 trash bags, makes her more monstrous than Tex Watson could even seem like being.

And she's free.

Imagine that.

MrPoirot said...

despite the viciousness of the TLB muerders if the Manson trials were happening today I doubt a guilty verdict would be returned if cameras were in the courtroom. Charlie's sad sap message would be taken serious by millions of kooks.

Jiri said...

There's no chance he would have been acquitted if it took place today. I think the only thing that could have turned out differently is that the girls would have had better attorneys.

A Mark Geragos type would have gleefully defended one or more of them. His team of therapists and deprogrammers would have stood a shot of bringing them to terra firma long enough to garner empathy and perhaps avoid death sentences. If that had happened the girls would have been out long ago.

Charlie and Tex would be convicted in a slam dunk.

katie8753 said...

I'm not sure that televising a trial has a different outcome than not televising it. The jury is still only seeing and hearing what they are supposed to see and hear. The only difference is that the whole world can listen and watch if they want.

Mrstormsurge said...

Now the Casey Anthony lead atty (Jose Baez) is defending Gary Giordano. He's the suspect in the disappearance of a woman in Aruba (not Natalie Hollaway, another woman in Aruba).

katie8753 said...

If the Manson murders had occurred in 2010 and the killers were just now being tried, I wonder if it would even generate the media buzz that it did in 1969.

As Beauders mentioned previously, the Petit murders were horrific but didn't get that much media attention.

If you fast forward the murders to now, would the killers even be hippies? Maybe they would morph into skinheads or something.

katie8753 said...

Stormy, I've read that Jose Baez was just a big nobody before the Casey Anthony trial.

He lucked out big time and now he thinks he's struck it rich.

In reality, he is a high school dropout, a former bikini salesman and when that didn't work, he tried for 8 years to pass the Florida bar. They kept turning him down because of his many lies, his failure to pay his debts and his child support.

He finally passed the bar shortly before Casey hired him on the advice of one of her "inmate friends".

He didn't win the Anthony case because he's any good, he won because the prosecution couldn't prove their case, due to the fact that all the evidence was gone by the time the little body was found.

It will be interesting to see how this Gary Giordano case turns out. There isn't much evidence at all that he did anything. But the fact that he took out a large life insurance policy on this girl right before their trip looks mighty fishy to me.

leary7 said...

wow, went away for the weekend so I missed all the White Rabbit discussion. But thanks everyone, especially Lynyrd and Jim for providing so much good info.

It really is an amazing story that this guy's claims are given any credence at all given that there seems to be no eyewitnesses or cooberation of his presence at Spahn or the "inner circle".

This isn't related, but it is so silly I had to comment on it.A couple of weeks ago, on the 48th anniversary of the JFK assasination, the city of Dallas gave a special citizens' award to this shoesalesman guy who saw Lee Harvey sneak into the movie theatre instead of paying the $1.10charge (Lee had nine bucks on him)and called the cops to report it. I've always wondered if the cheapo Lee had just paid for his ticket how the whole thing might have played out.
But it was just so surreal to see this guy get a special award 48 years after the fact. Kind of sad and pathetic actually. It got me to wondering if there might be some belated "Manson awards" to be given out and who would qualify.

leary7 said...

It really is not worth the energy to type Sussana Lo's name or comment on her absurdist movie, which, clearly, is an insult to anyone who thinks the TLB case is significant from a historical or cultural perspective. The movie is simply sleazy lesbian expoitation at its most insipid. Maybe we all should form and Occupy Susanna Lo Movement...go pitch some tents on her set and create some real havoc.

katie8753 said...

Hi Leary!

I was just thinking about asking you a question about Oswald. I was reading something this morning on the JFK case.

Assuming that Oswald didn't kill Kennedy, do you think that he killed Officer Tippit?

leary7 said...

You know Katie, as with everything in the JFK case there appears to be enough doubt and conflicting evidence - both eyewitness and ballistic - to believe that it would have been difficult to convict Lee of the Tippet killing.
However, personally, I do think with about a 90% certainty that Lee did shoot Tippet. But even accepting that doesn't slow down the conspiracy theories given suspicions concerning Tippet and a police car reported to have pulled up in front of Lee's rooming house and beeped around the time Lee was there after fleeing the Book Depository. Honestly though Katie, it has been a long time since I immersed myself in the details about the Tippet shooting and I am sure I am forgetting stuff here. But to give you a short answer to your question, yes, I do think Lee shot Tippet. But as I said, that doesn't neccessarily disprove a conspiracy.

leary7 said...

damn. my spelling is atrocious. it is Officer Tippit as you had it Katie. Sorry.

katie8753 said...

Okay thanks Leary. I was just curious as to why Oswald would shoot Tippet and then go to a movie. LOL.

There is a lot of conspiracy stuff surrounding this case and it makes my head hurt trying to sort through it.

katie8753 said...

Well I spelled it wrong the second time. LOLOL.

leary7 said...

yeah Katie, it will give you a headache. So much of it doesn't make sense, starting with the naked truth that Lee actually liked JFK allot.
But as with Charlie, Lee was a pathological narcissistic misfit so applying logic to his actions is a waste of time.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Leary said:
>>>>"As with Charlie, Lee was a pathological narcissistic misfit so applying logic to his actions is a waste of time".<<<<

...or, as Harold True, said it best:

"You can't ascribe reason to crazy people".

AHahahaha

Sorry, I couldn't resist.

There's literally (at least) one quote from that Harold interview, which can be applied to almost every conversation.
Some of the most versatile phrases ever... LOLOL

And hey, since I know zero about the JFK case, I thought I would at least offer a laugh.
Dont' mind me...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I was completely away yesterday... so, I'm playing catch-up.

Here goes...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Stormsurge:
Love the avatar!

Katie:
You better watch your language now, you've got a baby watching you from above! LOL

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Jiri:
Welcome to the Blog!
I'm looking forward to your contributions.

MrPoirot said...

Who shot Liberty Valance?

katie8753 said...

>>>Mr. P said: Who shot Liberty Valance?>>>

The Duke?

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

As my last official catch-up task (LOL), I'd like to underscore Beauders' commentary... by re-posting it.

Great research, knowledge, and contribution, as always Beauders!


Beauders said:

"larry melton wa friends with bill nelson. he is a pedaphile who was found to have child porn on his computer and a under age girlfriend. he went to prison for this.
sandy and squeaky did want him to go to berkeley and repeat the tate/
labianca murders there. he wouldn't so he went into hiding when they put out they wanted him to be murdered.
after enough time passed melton decided the best thing he could do for manson was run for mayor of berkeley on the "free charles manson ticket."
ed sanders did use melton as a source and some of his more bizarre info. came from melton such as having sex with animal blood being dripped on the participants. it was sanders who told nelson that melton was a reliable source.

melton did claim that it was he who atkins had sex with the night of the tate murders. he said they were so turned on by the murders that it was the best sex he ever had. just remember atkins green goo.
melton had nelson so snowed that nelson did instigate with inyo county officials a dig a barkers in 2008. they flew melton to ca. took him to barkers with nelson and dug for several days in 120 degree weather but found nothing. i don't think debra tate was involved in this dig, but i would have loved to seen her face if she did meet this creep.
melton is such an acid causalty that he actually collects disability. he told the authorties that he was a former member of the manson family and gave him permanent disability benefits".


Great stuff!
And there you have it folks...
Melton in a nutshell!

Beauders is a fabulous contributor... 'Nuff said.
Thanks Beauders!

MrPoirot said...

I have trouble believing W Rabbit was at Spahn Ranch until after the murders. Better yet I think he may have been one of those who showed up after the arrests. JMO

katie8753 said...

Conrad Murray is appealing his conviction and is planning to represent himself.

This is gonna be a real hoot!! LOL.

Nimrod said...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Beauders said:

>>>>melton had nelson so snowed that nelson did instigate with inyo county officials a dig a barkers in 2008. they flew melton to ca. took him to barkers with nelson and dug for several days in 120 degree weather but found nothing.<<<<

The White Rabbitt Inyo County DA interview took place on July 24, 1998, not in 2008.

Larry was flown into LAX where he was picked up and transported up to Inyo.

Nimrod said...

leary7 said...

>>>> The movie is simply sleazy lesbian expoitation at its most insipid <<<<

That translates into good box office receipts.

Suzanna Lo knows what she's doing. The truth doesn't sell, but add in a lesbian theme into an already kinky tale of murder and hippiedom and you'll be smiling all the way to the bank.

Just look at what Jim VanBebber did to his film?

I remember watching the director commentary and i believe that Jim mentioned that he had raised about $10,000 to actually do his film and how the actors were basically volunteers and how they had to stop filiming when they ran out of money.

Once the film was actually complete he decides to mix in footage of some other psycho movie that basically killed the picture.

Credit Susanna Lo for slipping in what sells. The film will be a historical zero, but people will want to see this flick because of all of the sordid details.

If there's one thing i've learned about this case over the years from own experience is that it's always about "making money" - nothing more than cheap exploitation.

They're either out there writing books, selling prison letters, bootlegging manson's music; all competing against and trying to outdo each other to cash in on the Manson magical mystery tour.

Even that asshole, John Waters, the self proclaimed long time "friend" of Leslie Van Houten, sold her out in both paperback and hardcover and what does Linda Grippi have to say about that? They just blame me for beating up on poor John. I get labeled as a Bill Cywin type and John walks away with the cash.

This whole case is horseshit. Forget about Salindar Nader. Nobody but me seems to find it rather significant that this guy was chosen to die on the very night as the LaBianca's.

Maybe under this new law that just passed, maybe someone in the military can grab Linda Kasabian in the middle of the night and waterboard her until she tells us what we want to hear.

Other than that, you're going to have one VanBebber after another lining up to make home movies for sale on ebay.

I will say this about the VanBebber film, when i saw those segments on the animnal blood orgies, I thought for sure that the White Rabbitt had been hired as a consultant for that project.

There's nothing like "Sexing up Reality" - enter Susanna Lo.

And Yes, i will most like check that film out and even post a "Review" of that movie right here on the infamous LSB3 blog.

Can't resist a good Lesbian Murder flick :-)

See ya at the movies :-)

katie8753 said...

Jimmy what film did Jim Van Bebber do?

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Hi Jim...

I'm not going to re-post your last comment, as it's simply too lengthy... but I must say, I enjoyed it.

I can't say, I agree with your every word... but regarding Lo, the movie(s), the profiteering of all things Manson, Nader and Kasabian... you hit enough true points... that collectively, I agree.
The bulk of what you're saying is accurate.

If you want to write a review of this movie (if/when) it finally comes-out... send it in... I'll make a thread of it.
Or, post it in the comments section... whichever you prefer.
Heck, a good "Jim-written" thread, should be good for 300 comments, at least!
LOLOL

Nimrod said...

katie8753 said...
>>>Jimmy what film did Jim Van Bebber do?<<<

There's actually a link on youtube that has the entire movie listed:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?
v=aElVsdSkU1A

If you haven't seen this one, you haven't missed much :-)

katie8753 said...

Thanks for the link Jimmy.

I'll agree with you:

Can't resist a good Lesbian Murder flick :-)

This Susanna Lo film is bound to hit the cutting room floor.

If it's even produced and released, it will most likely go straight to video, and by that I mean, the XXX video stores for the steamy Lesbo sex scenes, which are pretty much common knowledge on the XXX scene.

You can probably view this feature film at one of those "stores" that has a curtain you can go behind and watch in privacy to jack off, much like the one Pee Wee Herman went to when he got arrested.

When all the dust clears, and all is said and done, this film will just be another snuff film that gets lost in the dust and becomes a collector's item on someone's shelf that's a dildo.

katie8753 said...

I agree with you, if Susanna Lo doesn't have enough plot to be interesting, just turn it into a lesbo fest.

At least that will bring it to a certain "un-level" to bring in the scourge of the earth that might scrape together $3.50 in change to view this crap.

They will lunge at it like thistry dogs that haven't seen 2 or more girls kissing since 7th grade.

HA HA.

Nimrod said...

katie8753 said...

>>>You can probably view this feature film at one of those "stores" that has a curtain you can go behind and watch in privacy to jack off, much like the one Pee Wee Herman went to when he got arrested.<<<

Pee Wee Herman was actually in an adult movie theater when he was caught, "Dancing with himself", as Billy Idol would say.

First off, what kind of a person would be in a dark theather that plays XXX movies looking for people doing that kind of thing and then getting caught in the act?

Pee Wee Herman, like him or not, is a Hollywood Star with a Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame.

Not even Sharon Tate can make that claim :-)

I'll bet one day you'll see a Casey Anthony Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and she'll probably get one before Sharon does.

I remember when Howard Stern first heard about Pee Wee in the Playhouse. That was some great radio.

What Hollywood needs is a GOOD Lesbian Murder Mystery. That would pull in alot of money.

Maybe Susan Montford might want to pick up where Susanna Lo left off only only create a "Quality" film that's daring yet socially challenging.

katie8753 said...

>>>Jimmy said: I'll bet one day you'll see a Casey Anthony Star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame and she'll probably get one before Sharon does.>>>

HA HA HA. I doubt if either will ever get one. Although I have to admit, Casey is a very good actress. She could lie to the devil and get away with it. LOL.

adam said...

One of the big mistakes Van Pebber made on The Manson Family (there are many) is getting Sadie and Katie mixed up. Sadie is portrayed as dowdy and quiet while Pat is played by a hot actress with amazing tits who, when she isn't getting fucked senseless is hollowing loudly to anyone and everyone about how great Charlie is.

Nimrod said...

adam said...

>>>>One of the big mistakes Van Pebber made on The Manson Family (there are many) is getting Sadie and Katie mixed up. Sadie is portrayed as dowdy and quiet while Pat is played by a hot actress with amazing tits who, when she isn't getting fucked senseless is hollowing loudly to anyone and everyone about how great Charlie is.<<<<


This would be another good film for the MST3K crew to take a shot at.

They Animal blood orgy scene would be quite a conversation maker.

VanBebber, like so many others, takes you further and further away from what actually happened.

They rewrite history, but then you tell yourself, doesn't this happen every day anyway?

beauders said...

oops i am so used to writing 20.. but meant 1998, nelson wasn't even alive then. i think that white rabbit is bullshitting about being at spahn the night of the tate murders.
micheal landons daughter was supposed to be in this film, she's actually a very good actress. i wonder if she still is or if she's pulled out. does anyone know her name is jennifer landon.

katie8753 said...

Hi Beauders.

Jennifer Landon was on As The World Turns (yes I wached it LOL) but it went off the air last year.

If she was scheduled to be in this movie, someone probably advised her not to commit professional suicide by staying in the cast.

beauders said...

boy katie i too watched as the world turns did you watch guiding light as well?

katie8753 said...

Hi Beauders. I had watched ATWT starting back in around 1958. My babysitter watched it so I watched it with her. It just broke my heart when they took it off. I'm still boycotting CBS for that. LOL.

I didn't watch Guiding Light. The only soap I watch occasionally now is Bold & Beautiful. But the storylines have gotten so boring it's hard to sit through.

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Go To:JIM VANBEBBER NAMBLA member,this guy is a Sicko,and did FELONY jail time.

VIC NOTO said...

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