Friday, April 2, 2021

DA Gascon Wants Parole

I ran across this today.  Los Angeles has a new DA, George Gascon, who has ruffled quite a few feathers with his left leaning agenda.  One of the items he wants to change is to automatically grant parole to people who have been incarcerated for 10 years or more.  He just figures they have "learned their lessons".  

How will this affect future parole hearings for Manson Family members?  I believe Tex is up for parole in October of 2021.

L.A. DA Gascon Refused to Oppose Parole for Manson Family Killer Bruce Davis



Petition · Keep Charles Manson Cult Serial Killer Charles "Tex" Watson From Getting Parole · Change.org

50 comments:

Dilligaf said...

Gascon is intent on doing to Los Angeles what he did to San Francisco. The only saving Grace on a grand scale is that not only do many other District Attorneys in California oppose him almost at every turn, but the turmoil in his office continues, both with an exodus of staff as well as many seeking to remove him.

katie8753 said...

Thanks Dill. If Tex gets out, since Charlie's gone now, the rest of them will surely get out. I'm hoping they never get out.

I hope that the other DA's that oppose him can stop this. I don't know if Gascon's power is only in LA County. I'm assuming that some Manson Family members who are imprisoned are in different counties. And I'm also assuming that he can't control parole hearings in other counties. But I don't know that for a fact.

Thanks for keeping us informed on these legal matters!

Dilligaf said...

Watson will most like.y never get out, regardless of who is the LACDA.

It does not matter which county an inmate is housed, it is the county of conviction that matters. In that the county of conviction was LA, it unfortunately falls upon Gascon. That he is no longer going to challenge parole does not make it automatic, it comes down to either family members to be heard, and hopefully influence the parole board, and the power of a governor to overturn a granting of parole.

katie8753 said...

Oh the county of conviction matters. I didn't know that. The law is complicated!

Thanks Dill!

sunset77 said...

katie8753 said..."If Tex gets out. . ."

They are almost certainly not going to let Watson out. He was almost certainly responsible for all five murders at the "Tate" house, the murder of both LaBianca's, and the murder of Donald "Shorty" Shea. There is speculation as to who did what at the crimes scenes, but what I can see with my own eyes, is the gunshot wounds and stab wounds match the weapons Watson had, as well as his "demeanor". Watson didn't have a "knife" like the kind you find in your kitchen drawer, or even a hunting knife, he had a bayonet. A military edged weapon designed for killing. Krenwinkel said she was unable to kill Folger, so she "called Tex". Krenwikel and Van Houten said the were unable to kill Rosemary LaBianca, so they "called Tex". If I remember correctly, the stab wounds on Shea matched a bayonet also, and by that time, Watson was an "expert" with a bayonet.

Charles Watson is one of the main reasons I don't support the death penalty. If anyone ever "deserved" to be executed, it was him. Nevertheless, he's been in prison since around 1970. Still there today as best I know. In that same time many other murderers have been executed, and many others have been released from prison. The "system" is inherently unfair. Some people are executed, while others are not, for the exact same (or worse) crimes.

Dilligaf said...

Crimes stand on their own as they are individual in nature, no facts are every identical. As such, punishment for a crime must, in order to be applied as fairly as possible, be addressed on a case by case basis.

Other murderers in California have been executed in California after Watson was originally sentenced, but his sentence was overturned. They were sentenced under subsequent guidelines which did not violate constitutional standards, thus the differences. Add to that, in
California, as laws have become more “liberal”, the application of sentencing is constantly changing, creating an inequity in sentences. I do know of approximately 730 people that should have their sentence implemented immediately. Sadly, we have a governor who has imposed a freeze on executions, which only makes matters worse.

katie8753 said...

If Watson had been tried and given the death penalty in Texas, he'd be pushing up daisies by now.

I feel sorry for Watson's parents. That stuff didn't happen back then. A lazy, good-for-nothing son didn't end up being the most notorious killer at the time.

I'm sure they wondered how they went wrong!

TabOrFresca said...

sunset77,
The site mentions you as a contact using:
sunset777@gmx.com
But email is returned, with not found.
Did your address change?

sunset77 said...

I'm sorry TabOrFresca, I haven't used that e-mail address for years. I only ever used it a few times in relation to this blog.

If you want to send me a private e-mail, use billthomas160@yahoo.com I usually open and check that one everyday.

Unknown said...

When the parolees look at the severity and brutality of what scumbag Watson did he's not going anywhere but an instant trip to he'll where Satan will welcome him with open arms, it's too bad Doris, Shannon, Paul and the rest of the victims can't see it, I HATE HATE HATE that motherfucker and his phony bullshit, I'm a preacher convict mentality, THAT right there should buy him more time........well over 7-8 shot wounds, over 100 stab wounds, vicious beatings, writing on walls, writing sick shit over the walls......fuck him

Unknown said...

Meant Sharon and hell instead of he'll, sorry

Unknown said...

I agree Katie, when you look at Watson and his pre 1967 activities you can't help but wonder where this SCUMBAG PIECE OF SHIT came from, when Cali had the death penalty I'd have GIVEN MONEY to strap his ass into the chair and watched him fry, they need to change the laws in this country to let family members do the killing, I'll bet Col Paul would have made Watson suffer

Unknown said...

There's a Death Penalty show from Texas and ALL of those fuckers are SCARED STIFF, you can see it in their brains every time one gets close their yelling, shaking, screaming......just think how the victims felt

katie8753 said...

RIGHT-ON "Unknown"!!! HA HA.

If Tex Watson had to undergo even one of the painful wounds he inflicted on his many victims he would cry like a little baby! Because he's just a PUSSY!

Now he's protected as a prisoner so he can espouse his "religious views" regarding the entire thing. Nobody's buying that bullshit!

That fucker even wrote a book and tried to make it look like he was "under a spell" when he did what he did, but even an idiot would know that he's just a fucking liar!

Tex had already separated himself from Charlie and was selling drugs elsewhere. And when that didn't work out, he went back to Charlie. Why? For protection from Lottsapoppa. Because he fucked that shit up!

katie8753 said...

Hey Beauders, are you okay? What do you think about Quinn trying to get with Carter?

beauders said...

I'm fine Portland is on fire again, even though it never really ended. We had over 150 days of rioting and I'm afraid it's not going to end. A white police officer shot and killed a Mexican man over the weekend. The man was holding a fake gun, but of course the police officer didn't know it was fake. The people don't care they want the officers head. Katie I didn't take it as Quinn coming onto Carter, more likely she was just horny, because she and Eric are not having sex, and admiring Carter's body. Naughty Quinn, but harmless.

katie8753 said...

Wow Beauders, you'd think they would make that stuff against the law!! How much can you burn down? At some point there's nothing left to burn down! Stay safe!

You might be right about Quinn, but I get the feeling that she's gonna start something up with Carter because she's a train-wreck waiting to happen. LOL.

beauders said...

Quinn and Carter would be an interesting storyline. I find Carter dull maybe she could liven him up a bit.

beauders said...

The rioters are breaking and burning things that they broke before. Starbucks seems to piss them off the most and the Oregon Historical Society have been hit several times.

katie8753 said...

That reminds me of a guy I used to work with years ago. He called Oregon "Or-EEE-Gone". I always pronounced it "Or-A-Gun". Which is correct?

I'm surprised that Starbucks makes them mad. Those fellas seem to support all that stuff.

Yeah if Quinn and Carter get together they can start a war with Zoey, who thinks Quinn is her new BFF, and Eric, who can make or break that hunk-a-doodle!

beauders said...

It's pronounced Orgun by Oregonians.

katie8753 said...

Wow Beauders, the destruction going on in Portland is unbelievable. Are you okay with that? I don't understand liberals at all. Why would anyone condone that? Can you explain that to me?

You need to boot & scoot to Texas!!!

BTW I still think that Quinn and Carter are going to hook up. She tried her slinky best to get Eric's attention today and he blew her off. And if I have to see Liam cry one more time, I'm going to throw a lamp at my TV. Well, I wouldn't throw a lamp at my TV because I couldn't use it anymore. Maybe I'll just change the channel.

I sound like Mr. Kimble on Green Acres. LOL.

Dilligaf said...

I think, like many other things, there are various levels of what we would call Democrats or liberals. I know a few Democrats that cringe at what Is being perpetrated the the Far Left liberals. I know Democrats from middle America that look at any West Coast Democrat as a liberal, so I guess it is all relative.

Mrs. Dill and I are going to be passing through Texas on our way back from New Orleans. We are going to spend some time in Houston, Gonzales, San Antonio, Austin, and Waco, then up to the southern part of Oklahoma to see some of our grandkids. We love the people of Texas and Oklahoma, they are friendly and always make us feel right at home.

katie8753 said...

Dill, it sounds like you're driving up I-35!!! Have a great vacation!!

beauders said...

There is so much more than rioting to Portland. We are a liberal city and conservatives just don't make it in Portland. The rest of Oregon is pretty conservative, to the point that part of Oregon wants to join Idaho because Idaho is pretty conservative. After Utah, Idaho has the most Mormons in their state. Mormons are extremely conservative. The real liberals don't like what our city is going through, the people who approve are radicals. It seems all the radicals have come to town because they see an opportunity to play with their politics in a real way. I don't like it and I think most liberals in Portland don't like it either. It is very sad because it is effecting all the businesses downtown and people are moving out. When you see craziness on the news, the people rioting, looting, burning, and bombing are not Oregonians, they are not from here, they came here from other places and are destroying our city. I predict that this summer will be just like last summer.

katie8753 said...

Wow Beauders that sounds complicated. It would be more simple to just make the violence go away. That would solve a lot of problems. Burning things down and tearing things up that belong to other people is not the answer. It doesn't solve anything.

Are you feeling okay?

On the other hand, Liam cried like a baby on Friday because he's a wuss. I need to start watching another soap opera. I'm getting really tired of B&B. My guess is it won't be on much longer.

BTW, a lot of the B&B actresses are now on Y&R.

beauders said...

The problem in Portland is if the mayor or governor went after the rioters they would not be reelected. No Katie I'm not ok, my brothers death has hit me hard. All I want to do is sleep. I am adopted and every member of the family that adopted me has died. My sister is younger than me so she didn't adopt me, I adopted her. She has children also which changes it for her. My stepfather is also still alive but that's it. Both cousins I knew are dead, both my brothers are dead, and both of my adoptive parents are dead, and it sucks. If you want to drop B&B start watching General Hospital it is much more of a traditional soap opera, in that it is about a hospital and the life that revolves around it, whereas The Bold and the Beautiful is about business people as is The Young and the Restless. Maura West, Carley Tennie (ATWT) plays a mob woman and she is great. General Hospital has scooped up a lot of the actors/actresses from the soaps that have been canceled. It's in my opinion the best soap going.

katie8753 said...

Beauders I'm so sorry that you're going thru all that loss. It seems the older you get, the more you see death of loved ones and friends. It really sucks. Hang in there my friend!

I'll check out General Hospital. I've never watched that one. It seems that B&B is the slowest moving soap I've ever watched. Nothing ever seems to happen. It's just SOSDD. I'm really surprised it hasn't been cancelled.

beauders said...

You’re right Katie Quinn and Carter are going to have an affair. I was also wondering did you ever buy it that Maya was born a man? What a compliment to transgender women and their plastic surgeons, she was absolutely gorgeous.

katie8753 said...

I figured they'd have an affair by the way they were looking at each other. Prediction: Zoey will find out and get all psycho like she was when she first got on the show. Of course, Quinn can be a psycho too. So that might be interesting.

Looks like Donna is trying to get Eric back too.

No I never bought it that Maya was born a man. Although tons of pancake makeup can go a long way in hiding a 5 o'clock shadow. LOL.

katie8753 said...

Does anyone know why thieves are stealing catalytic converters? It seems to be an epidemic in Texas. Is it going on in other states? Sunset any thoughts?

Dilligaf said...

There are various “precious” metals make them targets for theft. Recyclers pay good money for those. Doesn’t matter the decade, greed always exists....

katie8753 said...

Thanks Dill. From what I've been reading, if someone steals it off your car, you have to replace it because it makes a really loud noise to run the car. It costs around $1,000 to replace it, and they can just steal it again. GRRR!!!!

Dilligaf said...

It can actually cause the vehicle to malfunction and cause severe damage. It is a tough crime to stop. Motions lights, garaging your vehicle, visible cameras are the easiest methods of prevention.

katie8753 said...

Thanks Dill! I garage my car, but I do go to the grocery store. I read advice to park against a fence but I don't see how that would do anything.

If I go to the grocery store and see someone under a car, I'm calling the cops!

Dilligaf said...

Parking against a fence actually can work against you, as a fence can help hide a person, even if it is chain link. As a single woman, park in areas where there are lots of people, it will keep you, and your car safer...

katie8753 said...

Thanks Dill! I will do that!

sunset77 said...

Sorry it took me so long to reply about catalytic converter thefts. I don't check the comments here every single day, but every few days.

Catalytic converter thefts are a problem in many states. I read about a theft a week or two ago, I think in Florida, the cops busted a garage with like 400 stolen converters. They are worth a lot of money. I think that have platinum in them that recyclers will pay money for.

I would guess a lot of this goes on at night. Most shopping centers have security cameras.

I seen an article that said Texas is having a problem with this. I would guess it's easy money for illegals.

Here's part of an article, it's full of ads, so I'll just copy and paste the important parts:

According to Seattle police, thieves target catalytic converters, emissions-control devices that are part of most vehicles’ exhaust systems, for their precious metals: platinum, palladium and rhodium, which have been soaring in value.

They’re lightweight and an experienced thief can steal one in less than two minutes from a parked vehicle by using either a wrench for converters bolted on the car or a battery-powered saw on those that are welded onto the vehicle.

● Know if you’re a target — Toyota Priuses, trucks and SUV’s, which are easier for thieves to slide under, are the primary targets in Tacoma.

● Secure your vehicle in a locked garage. Set motion-sensitive lights and park in your driveway or in a brightly lit area in front of your home if you don’t have a garage.

● Install a catalytic converter anti-theft device. Your mechanic or a search of the internet can show you what devices are available, costs and installation requirements.

● Paint your catalytic converter with a high temperature fluorescent paint and etch your vehicle’s identification number on the painted surface. This makes it traceable and more easily identifiable.

● Set an alarm or camera. You can turn up the sensitivity of your car alarm so that it goes off if thieves jostle your car. A motion sensitive dash cam can alert you to the theft and possibly record suspect information.

● Check your vehicle frequently if your vehicle belongs to a group, business or church that only uses the vehicle on certain days.

● Check with your car insurance. Comprehensive insurance covers stolen auto parts. Find out if you will be covered and what your deductible amount will be before a theft.

katie8753 said...

Thanks for the info Sunset! I think car theft and car-related theft is very prevalent in Texas because we're so close to the border. If you can get that stuff across the border it's solid gold. I don't know about other border states.

sunset77 said...

Catalytic converts are a pretty big deal right now. I have a relative that works in a used car dealership. Whenever they junk a car, they always cut the converter off and throw it in a pile. When they get about 40, they haul them to the scrap yard. They might get $10,000. When they take a junk car to the scrap yard, the first thing they look for is to see if the converter has been cut off. The converter might be worth more than the car.

I seen where Ford shut down production of the Mustang because they can't get enough of the computer chips to power the fancy electronics they put on cars now. Chevy had stopped production of some models earlier.

I think a lot of these silicone chips and rare Earth metals in converters come from China. And I think China is using them as part of a trade war.

Anyway, try to park your car where there's security cameras. That would keep most thieve away, but it might not stop illegals wearing masks.

In foreign counties people climb up electric poles to steal the wires to turn the metal in for scrap. There are videos on "gore" websites of what happens when it goes wrong. Sparks and lightning fly everywhere, and the guy falls to the ground, usually with part of him burnt to a cinder. (I won't post a link to any of those videos, I don't expect anyone wants to see that).

beauders said...

Katie, that didn't take long. Carter and Quinn have done the deed.

beauders said...

They did it again before the episode was over, and Liam is forgiven and is cooking, when will Hope learn?

katie8753 said...

First of all, I'm not an electrician. But I know better than to cut electric wires!!

Secondly, (1) did you see Zoey's dress today? It had a snake on it. And (2) did you see Paris' dress today. It looked like a clumsy frilly bathing suit cover up, while she's wearing a size AAA black bra. And (3) did you see Hope's "work dress"?

HOW DID FORRESTER GET TO BE A FASHION MAGNATE????

I just keep throwing my hands up in the air with this show!

Yeah, Quinn and Carter got it on again. They're doomed. They're all doomed! HA HA!

beauders said...

Yesterday Zoe was wearing bright lemon wrap around dress with the blouse was tied as was the dress, just terrible. When did a double tied wrap around blouse and dress become popular?

beauders said...

I know it now Douglas is now creating fashion.

katie8753 said...

Every dress Zoe wears is putrid! And they get more putrid by the day. I guess if Douglas is the head designer now, that speaks volumes! LOL.

And it looks like Vinny is going to haunt Liam...

beauders said...

Of course Vinny is going to haunt Liam, Liam isn’t alive if he’s not miserable. The awful clothes continued today. Do folks still come to this blog looking for Manson information? They must get bored with B&B. Just wait till Katie switches to General Hospital, I have even more to say about that soap, most of it positive.

katie8753 said...

Beauders, HEE HEE! Liam is worthless! Today Shawna busted into the "mansion" like everyone else does (there doesn't seem to be a lock on the door) and listened to Quinn whine about her affair. This show is imploding! It won't last much longer.

Since Manson died, there's not much to talk about anymore, except for parole hearings.

But there is one thing I would like to discuss. I'm going to start a new thread tomorrow.

Harold Twue said...

That cover looks like Leonard Nimoy's "The Way I Feel" album!

Watson and Davis should never get out, they are pure death.

katie8753 said...

Amen Twue! LOL.