Saturday, January 14, 2017

I've always wondered why Sharon & Roman would rent a house in LA when they both knew they were going to be gone for months.

They rented 10050 Cielo Drive in February of 1969, had a house warming party which turned disastrous, then Roman left for Europe in a couple of weeks, and Sharon left for Europe in March of 1969, returning in July of 1969.


Then, to make matters more questionable, supposedly Roman asked Voytek and Gibby to live at the house until they got back.  And then after the murders, he says it may have happened  because Voytek was there. 

Why ask them to live there?

The "Caretaker" was watering the yard, the gardeners were mowing and trimming it.  Why pay Ms. Chapman to work 5 days a week to clean a house and cook when they weren't even there? 


That doesn't make any sense.  

But the whole case doesn't make any sense!  Inquiring minds want to know!

23 comments:

Dilligaf said...

No one knows for sure except a victim and her pedophile husband, anything else is conjecture.

They needed a legal residence, so that address was as good as a studio address. I don't know the child rapist's immigration status, if he had a green card, a visa, or what, but it could have been part of the plan to establish residency. As far as having house guests, like an onion, I would not be surprised to find several layers that impacted that decision.

katie8753 said...

Thanks Dill! This is a hazy mystery. I'm assuming Polanski had a "green card" or something to allow him to film Rosemary's Baby in New York at the Dakota in 1968. And I know they lived in Patty Duke's house. I don't know Roman's immigration status but to pay a landlord $1,200/month for a house you're not even living in seems silly to me. Maybe Gibby was paying the rent while she and Voytek were living there? But Rudy sued after the murders, and asserted that he didn't know they were living there, so I'm not sure.

katie8753 said...

Just thinking out loud here, but if Polanski wanted Gibby and Voytek to move into Cielo Drive during their absence, he might have done that so Gibby could pay the rent for those months, so he wouldn't have to worry about paying rent on Cielo Drive and also his and Sharon's rent on the digs they were living at in Europe.

It's interesting that Rudy said that August rent hadn't been paid by August 9th, so if Gibby was paying rent March thru July, probably thru Polanski after paying him and he was paying Rudy, Gibby didn't pay August rent because Sharon was back and Polanski dropped the ball on that month.

Gibby and Voytek's rented house on Woodstock was being rented by that polish artist, so they didn't have to pay rent on that house.

Whew, that was a doozy!! LOL.

CarolMR said...

I never saw these photos. Who are the people with Sharon and Roman in the top photo?

CarolMR said...

I never saw these photos. Who are the people with Sharon and Roman in the top photo?

CarolMR said...

I never saw these photos. Who are the people with Sharon and Roman in the top photo?

katie8753 said...

You know Carol I got those pics using a Google Image search, and looking again, that top photo appears to be on http://murdersofaugust69.freeforums.net. Oops! I'd better get on that pic and acknowledge that or I'm gonna get in big trouble. Sorry Maudie and Chris!

The caption says: Gene Gutowski, Simon Hessera, Henri Sera, Shahrokh Hatami, Roman Polanski with Dr. Sapierstein, Brian Morris, Sharon Tate at Chateau Marmont, LA, 1968.

The other picture says it's from Pinterest. I liked those 2 pics because they both have the little dog Saperstein.

katie8753 said...

I guess that's the same dog. It looks the same to me. LOL.

CarolMR said...

Thanks, Katie. Sharon looks very different in the top photo.

CarolMR said...

I just realized there are 6 people in the top picture, but 7 names.

katie8753 said...

Yeah you're right Carol. Is someone hiding in that photo? Hey Maudie, do you know who is in that photo?

I recognize Gene, Sharon & Roman, but the others I don't.

katie8753 said...

I just deleted that picture. I don't need the blow-back.

No one seems to know who is in it, and they all look kinda gay anyway. Who cares who they are?

I just liked the little poochie!! I was hoping someone would read the thread!

CarolMR said...

Katie, maybe Hatami took the photo? It was an interesting picture. Sharon had such a different look, almost plain-looking.

katie8753 said...

The next time I do a thread on this blog, I'm gonna draw "stick figures" and label them and point arrows to them.

No one is EVER gonna accuse me of stealing pictures again. Because it's gonna be my own drawings. LOL.

katie8753 said...

Carol this is nothing against you. I get accused of stealing pictures from people, and it's a long story. And if it gets convoluted and we don't even know who is in the pic, I'd rather not deal with it.

I'd rather just delete it. I don't know who those folks are anyway.

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NorthernLightsInMyEyes said...

Hey Katie, this is Mrs_Toni, moderator at murdersofaugust69.freeforums.net. All is cool, we don't mind sharing with credit and we do the same with you. At the end of the day, this is all one big forum and really no one has the ultimate "rights" to anything on this murder rampage. Only the victims have lost rights. Share away, credit us, and we always, always credit you guys. Cheers and peace.
~T

katie8753 said...

Wow thanks Mrs. Toni. I appreciate your post! And I agree only the victims have lost rights.

Thanks again!

NorthernLightsInMyEyes said...

Any time, katie. We have to be the voice of the victims.

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louis365 said...

As for why pay for this, pay for that...because people who have lots of money and haven't worked for it don't give a sh*t.

grimtraveller said...

louis365 said...

As for why pay for this, pay for that...because people who have lots of money and haven't worked for it don't give a sh*t

Love them or hate them, one thing you really cannot say about people in the entertainment business, be it sport, music or movies, is that they do not work hard. The idea that they do virtually nothing is not borne out by the reality or the facts.

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