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AP Exclusive: Charles Manson gets Marriage License

By LINDA DEUTSCH and SCOTT SMITH
Nov. 17, 2014 5:43 PM EST
Oct. 8, 2014 photo provided by the California Department of Corrections
CORCORAN, Calif. (AP) — Mass murderer Charles Manson has gotten a license to marry a 26-year-old woman who visits him in prison.

The Kings County marriage license, viewed Monday by The Associated Press, was issued Nov. 7 for the 80-year-old Manson and Afton Elaine Burton, who left her Midwestern home nine years ago and moved to Corcoran, California — the site of the prison — to be near Manson. She maintains several websites advocating Manson's innocence.

The license does not specify a wedding date and indicates the couple has 90 days to get married or they will have to reapply.

Burton, who goes by the name "Star," told the AP that she and Manson will be married next month.

"Y'all can know that it's true," she said. "It's going to happen."

"I love him," she added. "I'm with him. There's all kinds of things."

Burton gave an interview a year ago to Rolling Stone magazine in which she said she and Manson planned to marry. But Manson, who became notorious in 1969 as the leader of a roving "family" of young killers, was less certain about tying the knot.

"That's a bunch of garbage," Manson said in the December 2013 interview. "That's trash We're playing that for public consumption."

Asked Monday about those comments, Burton said, "None of that's true," adding that they're waiting for the prison to complete their paperwork.

California Department of Corrections spokeswoman Terry Thornton confirmed to the AP that the license had been transmitted to the prison.

Thornton said each California prison designates an employee to be a marriage coordinator who processes paperwork for an inmate's request to be wed. In most cases, she said, the department of corrections approves of such weddings as "a tool of family reunification and social development." But Manson is a unique case.

Burton said the wedding might have happened earlier if Manson did not have "some situations" at the prison.

Thornton explained that in February, Manson had three violations for possession of a weapon, threatening staff and refusal to provide a urine sample. Further details on the violations were not immediately available.

Burton said the prison holds marriages on the first Saturday of each month. She expects to be married in an inmate visiting room at the prison.

Thornton confirmed that Manson can have a wedding at the prison and invite an officiate from outside the prison to perform the ceremony.

He and his prospective spouse also would be allowed to invite 10 guests who are not inmates.

However, as a life prisoner with no parole date, he is not entitled to family visits, a euphemism for conjugal visits.

Why marry Manson under those conditions?

Burton said she was interested in working on his case and helping him obtain possible release. Marrying him would allow her to get information not available to non-relatives, she said without elaborating.

"There's certain things next of kin can do," she said.

She said she believes Manson is innocent and will get a new trial.

He and two women followers, Leslie Van Houten and Patricia Krenwinkel, remain imprisoned. Another follower, Susan Atkins, died of cancer behind bars.

They were convicted in the gruesome killings of actress Sharon Tate and four others at her estate on Aug. 9, 1969, and grocers Leno and Rosemary LaBianca who were killed the following night.

Manson would not be eligible for parole until 2027. He has been a habitual criminal and spent most of his life in prison.

52 comments:

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Why marry Manson under those conditions?

Burton said she was interested in working on his case and helping him obtain possible release. Marrying him would allow her to get information not available to non-relatives, she said without elaborating.

"There's certain things next of kin can do," she said.

She said she believes Manson is innocent and will get a new trial.


Huh... Ya don't say?

I'm not too interested in the Star/Manson marriage itself... but, watching "Star" work on Manson's release, could prove quite interesting.

If Manson got released (at any point) before his death, it would certainly be front page news.
It would be downright historical.

Jeez...
TLB is the never-ending story, that just keeps-on giving. LOL

Heck...
A new trial alone (regardless of the outcome), would be incredible to watch.

As Leary always says:
"I wonder who would be called to the witness stand, this time around..." LOL

I don't imagine Irving Kanarek is still up to the task. LOL!
(Being in a wheelchair and disbarred doesn't help).

Personally, I think Afton is wasting her time.
She's fighting a battle, that she can never win.
But nonetheless... it will be very interesting, to watch her try.
I've got my popcorn all ready. LOL

Drama.

TLB is truly, the never-ending story.

starship said...

Yes, wtf?

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Starship?
At 8pm??

Awesome Brother!!
GREAT to see you!!!

MrPoirot said...

Lynyrd said [quote]I don't imagine Irving Kanarek is still up to the task.[end quote]

Poirot replies:
I think he'd object to that statement. He's dead you know?

Kimchi said...

The "Stigma" will follow this girl for the rest of her life...

Long after he's "gone" she will have to deal with this...

To each his own, I guess....

katie8753 said...

Well...well...well.... Didn't Charlie say they weren't getting married? It was all just hype?

Did the hospital stay make him stop thinking about NOW and think about eternity?

She's not getting him a new trial. And she's not getting him out.

Kimchi I agree. The stigma will follow her forever. When she tries to get a job, when she tries to marry again after he takes a powder, when she applies for a loan. It will all be a matter of public record.

You can't talk people out of ruining their lives. You just can't....

Kimchi said...

"Poirot replies:
I think he'd object to that statement. He's dead you know?"

Poirot, please source this...

katie8753 said...

And if Charlie ever did get a new trial, which he won't, but let's suppose he did.

He would act a fool just like he did in the first one. He would try to shock everyone by his looks, shock everyone by his actions and shock everyone by his verbosity.

And the end result would be the same. I would imagine that another trial would be the final act in his bizarre repertoire. His "tongue spitting" at society for the last time.

And this time it wouldn't be Bugliosi's fault, Nixon's fault or the lawyers fault. It would just be Charlie's final faux pas.

Just another waste of time....

katie8753 said...

Manson didn't have a physical or mental disability that kept him from working. He was just a lazy cocksucker.

It was easier for him to brainwash young girls into doing his bidding than to arise at 6am and get to work by 8am.

He was characterized as "the most dangerous man in America". HA HA HA.

He should have been deemed "the laziest man in America".

Star good luck with all that!........

Star? Huh???? What kind of name is that???

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I kinda feel bad for her parents.

This is not exactly the legacy, that most parents want for their daughter.

If this actually happens... I wonder if they will attend.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

In a bizarre sorta way... ya gotta give the old coot credit though...

At 80 years old... and from behind bars... the guy snags a young girl who, by most standards, is quite attractive.

It's kind of mind-blowing.

I'm sure there are plenty of much younger "non-incarcerated" men, who aren't half as successful (as Charlie) in the dating game.

"It's a mad, mad, mad, mad world."

I guess Charlie's "rap" is still pretty strong.

A part of me has to wonder, what Van Houten and Krenwinkel think of this situation.

In fact, I wonder what ANY of the ex "Manson girls" think of this stuff, for that matter...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Poirot said:
"I think he'd object to that statement. He's dead you know?"

He was born in 1920, and I'm pretty sure, he's still alive at the ripe old age of 94.

I don't remember seeing anything about his death.

Do you have a source?

MrPoirot said...

Thought I heard he was dead.

katie8753 said...

I guess Charlie's "rap" is still pretty strong.

Rap? I'd say CRAP! HA HA.

Charlie is a copy cat. He copied Cab Calloway's scat. Check it out!

Now, here's a very entrancing phrase, It will put you in a daze,
To me it don't mean a thing, Zaz Zuh Zaz Zuh Zaz Zuh Zay.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-qEZ9zeIJw

katie8753 said...

More:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CGwtPy8CYaM

matt prokes said...

If some young person wants to throw away their future and present with this kind of nonsense I guess thats their business.
I wonder if its really going to happen or if this is some kind of publicity stunt.

MrPoirot said...

http://www.cnn.com/

Front page CNN has a video of Star in a white robe in the forest. I guess Star is White. Squeaky is Red. Sandra is Blue

katie8753 said...

Hi Matt!!

Mr. P, I didn't see the white robe, but I did see...oh well...enough being narly. HA HA.

katie8753 said...

If you never remember anything else in life...just remember this:

skeep-beep de bop-bop beep bop bo-dope skeetle-at-de-op-de-day

It'll put you to sleep. Night!

MrPoirot said...

http://www.buzzfeed.com/daves4/the-universe-is-scary

Krissy Deen said...

So Linda Deutsch co-wrote this article. Didn't she cover the original trial? I may be mistaken but I think she did. She's been around a long time. I remember her at the OJ trial as well. She's probably seen some interesting things in her career.

sbuch113 said...

You're right LS this is the never-ending case.
The "never-ending" part is very unnerving.

I mean........ what's next?

St Circumstance said...

L/S was kind enough to give me a forum to express myself on this subject, but one thing is worth repeating to me time and time again...

Where were the adults in this girls life????

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Prokes!
Poirot!
Krissy!
SBuch!
SaintC!

sunset77 said...

@Krissy Dean, I think Linda Deutsch did cover the original trial, though I'm not positive. I was looking that up myself last night, she has a Facebook page. I think she has written extensively about the Manson case, I'm pretty sure I've noticed several articles by her on CieloDrive.com blog.

Also, a video by CNN was uploaded on Nov. 17 with some interview footage of "Star". I don't know if it's new video, or a re-hash of old ones. It can be seen--->HERE.

MrPoirot said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ExavUdS0pM

About 1/2 way through this video you'll see Star and Manson with a young man Star's age. Is this Star's real boyfriend? Is Star using Charlie for a hidden reason and the marriage is just a smokescreen for public attention? Is Star's real love interest this young man in this video? Is Star cheating on Charlie? Remember Charlie never preached one woman to each man so it isn't far fetched to think Charlie would not mind if Star had another guy on the side and I doubt Star is celibate for Charlie because she has never said she was.

Krissy Deen said...

Thanks for the reply Sunset. I'm pretty sure I remember seeing a video clip somewhere of a ( obviously!) much younger Linda D. reporting directly from the trial back in 1970-71 but I can't remember where I saw it. She seems to have had a very interesting and long career that's for sure.

sunset77 said...
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katie8753 said...

Hey all, Venus says HI! She hopes to back online soon!

sunset77 said...

I removed the comment with the link to the Linda Deutsch article because I seen the link didn't work anymore. I found the story on another webpage from 3 days ago now if anyone wants to read it that hasn't seen it,--->Linda Deutsch.

Krissy Deen said...

Thank you Sunset!







TomG said...

Charlie Manson, if you will all forgive me, looks good for being 80 years old and put in solitary confinement and everything the California Department of Corrections throws at him.
Not to mention he is marrying a 26 year old, McDonald's employee of the month girl from the midwest.
So my question is why is this fellow bad? and you birds with your AOL internet connections good?

TomG said...

Respectfully, I disagree.

People who have no history of mental illness in themself or their family often have black and white opinions about morals and ethics.
Sometimes the good guys aren't so good.....and the bad guys aren't so bad.

TomG said...

It means think about your belief system.....which you have adopted because someone you value thought that way.

But a reasonable person doesn't think that way.

TomG said...

What I'm telling you Ms. Katie is that sometimes a human being loses their way. It may or not be their fault, but they are lost just the same.

I have one simplistic, explanation for all deviate behavior....

DRUGS!!!!!

TomG said...

Honey, you are being stupid..And I know you are not a stupid person!.....

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TomG said...

Stephen Kay from his mother.

matt prokes said...

http://news.yahoo.com/charles-manson-future-mother-law-thinks-wedding-173500056--abc-news-topstories.html

MrPoirot said...

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2014/11/25/measuring-evil-noted-psychiatrist-seeks-tool-to-quantify-wickedness/

Here's a story about an egghead trying to quantify evil in our two bad guys Hitler and Manson. It is really an annoying attempt at political correctness interjected into the facts that you see today in written historical coverage when history writers make judgements for you. I prefer older history accounts where the facts are given to you unadorned with unnecessary opinion.
Do you really need somebody telling you Hitler was bad? Just tell me factually what he did. I can discern if he's bad without an egghead telling me.

You can tell me where Manson rates on a scale of evil but I know what he did and I make my judgements accordingly. I don't need a scale.
Our modern history professors treat history like fantasy football. History is real and quantitative numerology is not needed to explain who won the bad guy game of the week. Facts are all that are needed. Don't tell me Hitler and Manson are evil. Don't tell me water is wet.

St Circumstance said...

Happy Thanksgiving to L/S, Katie, Starship and all the contributors and readers here at LSB3!!

I hope everyone has a happy holiday and a great weekend!

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Happy Thanksgiving Saint!!!!!!

All the Best Brother!!!

Brian Davis said...

(LSB3 staffers feel free to not post this if you feel it is is inflammatory. Not my intentions but not a big deal if they are rejected.)

"McDonald's employee of the month girl..."

As trivial as that is and I don't know where you got your information but you're wrong there.

Everything else in that post was right but that was wrong if it matters.

Are you reading the wrong blogs and bloggers ? I know the girl didn't tell you that.

leary7 said...

It really is silly to fight it, is it not? We all know Charlie is but a pebble, a black pebble that caused a ripple which the winds of the times turned into a tsunami of mayhem. What was he, three years on the outside, and he transformed himself into the Face of Evil. And, really, he probably did not kill anyone on his own. It's amazing when you think of it, this self-described nobody whose schtick was primarily court jester, and all those animals who really did kill and yet the jester is the Face of Evil.

But we still come around, and many will for years to come, because we are both transfixed by the tsunami and by Charlie. Could he really be that evil, has he in fact snorted Satan's sweat? Like Dracula and Jack the Ripper and all the evil figures in history, Charlie will have shelf life.

So what are we left with - debating his silly marriage, his soon-to-be funeral, his legacy? Soon enough, we can cross 'his relevancy' off the list.

I honestly hope Charlie gets himself a turkey leg tomorrow. And all you good people have a fun filled day with nary a thought of either him or evil.

TomG said...

Happy Thanksgiving Everyone! Remember what you are grateful for and in a quiet moment, remember someone who everyone else forgot.

katie8753 said...

Happy Thanksgiving everyone!!

MrPoirot said...

Leary the TLB murders were world famous before it was known Charlie was the architect.
I think he is the perfect "face of evil" even though he changes his face every foto session. He's a man of a thousand faces. No two pics of him does he look the same.
Charlie works hard to be the "face of evil'. He enjoys being Satan in people's eyes. Charlie's evil infamy just landed him a hot looking young bride. His face is in the media more than kim Kardashian. He could shut his mouth and do quiet time just like Leslie and Patricia but he can't do that because he is an evil little bastard. /hopefully he doesn't order Star to do evil things for him.

TomG said...

Evil is an overated word and an easy explanation for mental illnesss and drug addiction and things we can't get under control.

MrPoirot said...

Much has been surmised about Hitler being insane and addicted to speed but it is very likely he was neither. He did what he did of sound mind. Yet Hitler was evil.

TomG said...

Maybe he was or maybe he was just another fuck up doing fucked up things. Who is MrPoirot? The knower of all things?

MrPoirot said...

TomG my point being that evil is not just the product of drugs and mental illness. Evil can exist on its own.
Charlie's evil was made worse by drugs and mental illness. Hitler's evil was not the result of drugs or illness.