Wednesday, April 11, 2012

Charles Manson denied parole for 12th time

CORCORAN, Calif. -- Manson, now a gray-bearded, 77-year-old, did not attend the hearing where the parole board ruled he had shown no efforts to rehabilitate himself and would not be eligible for parole for another 15 years.  "This panel can find nothing good as far as suitability factors go," said John Peck, a member of the panel that met at Corcoran.
Story Here: http://www.mercurynews.com/crime-courts/ci_20372529/charles-manson-denied-parole-12th-time
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67 comments:

Mary said...

He was just denied parole and he will not have another hearing for 15 years!

katie8753 said...

THANKS MARY!!!!

Check it out here folks:

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47017512#.T4XIItl_DQg

katie8753 said...

I wonder what family members of the victims were there. Other than Debra Tate.

katie8753 said...

It's kind of poetic justice I guess that most news agencies aren't paying any attention to Manson anymore. There's so much more news to report.

So, other than to his current groupies, he's just an old man who gets less and less attention once every few years or so because he's having a parole hearing.

Mary said...

Reading the reader comments on msnbc site is funny...you see the majority of people have no clue about the case...one so called expert wrote:

"Wow, Clearly none of the posters where alive or beyond two years old in 69. Obviously none of you have ever read the case file or court transcripts of the case. Manson wasn't there or in California when Tate and the others were killed. He was at the ranch where the group hung out. The killings were done by Squeaky Fromm and four others of the "Manson family" as they came to be known. It was never shown or proven that Manson killed anyone. It was never proven that Manson had knowledge of the others actions. He was convicted of "conspiracy" to murder, and denied parole ever since. They feared Charles Manson, probably with good reason. Had the victims been ordinary people chances are he would never had been convicted. But, because it was Hollywood elites, some one had to pay."

katie8753 said...

Mary, HA HA.

Here's another dumb one:

"I thought that the women were already out..... I don't follow this much or closely because Manson continues to get news time this way, so I don't know, of course for certain. But I thought Manson and maybe 1 of the others were the only ones still in the pen. Anybody with the know about this, please reply...."

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

It's amazing how this guy's parole hearing has become nothing more than a small footnote... even for those of us who study this foolishness all year long.

I mean...
I'm sure the fact that no one really believed Manson stood a snowball's chance in hell... had something to do with the lack of interest.
But then again... there was always that outside chance that Manson may have attended... and given us a few more glimpses of him "live" before he died.
Even at that... there's been very little interest or chatter, right from the start.

Heck...
Some of the biggest "Manson" blogs online, didn't even run the story! LOL

Myself...
I really hated to cover-up Sharon's photos, with this news.
That's why, I kept this parole thread as condensed as possible..and updated it frequently.
I may actually slide this thread UNDERNEATH the Sharon photos by nightfall. LOL

Amazing...

I always thought Manson would die to a large fanfare.
I'm starting to really believe otherwise...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Judging from the stats...

It seems most folks would rather view Sharon's ass, than Manson's face! LOL

Can't say that I blame them...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Thanks to Mary, Kimchi and Katie for keeping us updated throughout the day.

katie8753 said...

>>>Lynyrd said: Judging from the stats...

It seems most folks would rather view Sharon's ass, than Manson's face! LOL

Can't say that I blame them...>>>

HA HA HA! Well that's because Sharon's ass will never age, versus Manson's old man droop-eared bulbous-hairy-nosed kisser. More poetic justice. LOL.

Mary said...

MSNBC actually had it as a breaking news banner when they reported it. But then just added it into their US news...not even the top stories. Only because it was Manson, do I think it was reported that way. Any of the others are really buried and do not get a banner most of the time.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Just a few fast facts:

-According to sources... this is the first time in 30 years, Charles Manson was represented by an attorney at a parole hearing.

-Manson will be 92 years old, at his next parole hearing.

-Manson's state-appointed attorney DeJon R. Lewis argued that Charlie be moved to Atascadero State Hospital
(Evidently, to no result)

And, believe it or not folks...
That's the WHOLE story in 3 blurbs!

It seems Manson has become a "3-blurb" guy.

Debra Tate (at some point) exclaimed:
"I'm done with him".

Good for her!!!

(Debra evidently, is assuming like everyone... that the "ultimate architect of evil" (LOL) will not see 92).

It seems the entire nation is "done with him".

Venus said...

I loved Mary's quote from one of the so-called experts who claimed that the killings were done by Squeaky "Fromm" and four others....I think this expert is not too much of an expert....

Anyhoo--glad to hear that Manson is stuck in prison. Of course, he's probably happy to be there as he gets 3 meals a day, medical care, a roof over his head....much more than many people get.

Since he got a 15 year denial, I'm hoping that this means that the victims' family members are done attending hearings for him.

katie8753 said...

That's right Venus.

It would have been interesting if they had moved him to the "mental hospital". Maybe he could have gotten a series of shock treatments, or even the final frontal lobotomy. HA HA.

Venus said...

That reminds me of the song about "rather having a bottle in front of me instead of having a frontal lobotomy!" LOL Ah, good ol' Dr. Demento.....

Mrstormsurge said...

3 inmates at the hospital for the criminally insane come up for their parole hearing and the psychiatrist tells them point blank,

"Fellows, we got a bad overcrowding problem here so I'm going to make you an offer. I'm going to ask you a math question and the first one that gets the right answer goes free."

"How much is 8x12, Crazy Inmate #1?"

"Easy doc, that answer is....Napolean Bonaparte's horse's left hoof and a cranberry cracker sandwich."

"Ok, close, but not quite there. Crazy inmate #2? 8x12?"

"Doc, according to my calculations that would be 2,458,392."

"No, crazy inmate #2. Good try but a little off."

Now the psychiatrist is really getting despondent. He's never going to lessen the overcrowding but he goes ahead and asks crazy inmate #3..."OK, what is 8x12?"

"Easy doc, that's....96!!!!"

"Eureka, you got it. You're now free to go"

Crazy inmate #3 grabs his belongings and heads for the front gate all joyful. As the gate swing open the psychiatrist shouts out, "I gotta ask you. How did you figure that one out?"

"Easy doc, I took Napolean Bonaparte's horse's left hoof and a cranberry cracker sandwich and divided by 2,458,392."

katie8753 said...

>>>Venus said: That reminds me of the song about "rather having a bottle in front of me instead of having a frontal lobotomy!" LOL Ah, good ol' Dr. Demento....>>>

Good one Venus!!! You've got a sharp wit. Love it, love it!!!

katie8753 said...

>>>"Easy doc, I took Napolean Bonaparte's horse's left hoof and a cranberry cracker sandwich and divided by 2,458,392.">>>

Stormy! LOLOL. This guy sounds like an idiot savant!

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Aahahahaha

Stormsurge... You ROCK!

katie8753 said...

Lynyrd, message received. :)

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

This guy goes to the psychiatrist.
He's completely nude.
He's wearing nothing... except syran wrap around his waist.

He's waiting impatiently in the waiting room.
He approaches the receptionist frantically, and says:
"M'am... I gotta see the doctor... I'm a sick man... I need"...

The receptionist responds calmly:
"Just have a seat sir... we'll be with you soon".

5 minutes later...

The guy approaches the receptionist again!
"M'am... I'm beside myself... you don't understand... I'm a sick man..."

The recpetionist say calmly:
"Sir, you're next. Just have a seat. We'll be with you in a moment".

FINALLY... the doctor calls him into the office!

The nutjob starts with the doctor, now:
"I'm a sick man... I need your help... I'm..."

The Doctor raises his hand in a halting motion (like a stop sign).
"STOP! Don't say another word!"
Looking downward...
"Clearly... I can see you're nuts".

AHahahahahaha

Mrstormsurge said...

Roses are red
Violets are blue
I'm schizophrenic
and so am I

katie8753 said...

Okay I don't know any nutjob jokes, so here goes a different kind:

A blowout occurs while drilling a oilwell in South Texas. The fire is soon out of control.

They call in Red Adair, the famous oilwell firefighter, to control the blaze. He works for several hours, but then gives up. "It's too hot to get next to", he says.

A $1,000,000 reward is offered to anyone who can extinguish the blaze.

Out of nowhere in a cloud of dust comes an old blue pickup truck at an amazing speed. They drive right into the fire. The occupants jump out and soon have the fire extinguished.

Amazed, the newscaster interviews the driver after the fire is out.

"That was amazing. You drove right up to the fire in spite of the heat and smoke and put that fire out. What are you going to do with the reward money?"

"Well....the first thing I'm gonna do is get the brakes fixed on that truck."

Venus said...

Lynyrd! LOLOL

Venus said...

Katie! That was a great one too!!!!

Venus said...

The only joke I can think of at the moment....

Why did Mickey Mouse run away from home?

He found out his father was a rat.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

OK... a couple more...

A psychiatrist was conducting group therapy with four young mothers and their small children. "You all have obsessions," the doctor observed.

To the 1st mother, he said, "You are obsessed with eating. You've even named your daughter Candy." He looks to the 2nd mother, "Your obsession is with money. Again, it manifests itself in your child's name, Penny." He looks to the 3rd mother. "Your obsession is alcohol. This manifests itself in your child's name, Brandy."

At this point, the 4th mother gets up, takes her little boy by the hand and says... "Come on, Dick, we're leaving!"

AHahahaha

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Little Janice was not the best student in Sunday school. Usually she slept through class. One day the teacher called on her while she was napping, "Tell me Janice, who created the universe?" When Janice didn't stir, little Johnny, a boy seated in the chair behind her, took a pin and jabbed her in the rear.

"God Almighty!" shouted Janice and the teacher said, "Very good" and Janice fell back asleep.

A while later the teacher asked Janice, "Who is our Lord and Saviour." But, Janice didn't even stir from her slumber. Once again, Johnny came to the rescue and stuck her again.

"Jesus Christ!" shouted Janice and the teacher said, "Very good," and Janice fell back asleep.

Then the teacher asked Janice a third question. "What did Eve say to Adam after she had her twenty-third child?" and again, Johnny jabbed her with the pin.

This time Janice jumped up and shouted, "If you stick me with that thing one more time, I'll break it in half and stick it up your ass!"

LOLOL!!!

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

One more...

A drunk in a bar pukes all over his own shirt, which was brand new before he came in. “Damn,” he says. “I puked on my shirt again. If the wife finds out, she’s gonna kill me.”

“Not to worry,” says the bartender as he sticks a $20 bill in the drunk’s pocket. “Just tell her someone puked on you and gave you some cash to cover the cleaning bill.”

So the drunk goes home and tells his wife about the guy who puked on him. She reaches into his pocket and finds two twenties. “Why are there two twenties?” she asks.
The drunk replies, “Oh, yeah, he crapped in my pants, too.”

Dilligaf said...

Okay, I have to try to keep up:

Mickey Mouse is sitting in his attorney's office. His attorney tells him, "Mr. Mouse, I have have several psychiatrists examine your wife Minnie, and we cannot find any evidence of mental instability".

At that point, Mickey jumps up and cries out, "I didn't say she was crazy, I said she was fucking Goofy!"

And that's all I have for now....

Dilligaf said...

An Indian brave approaches his father, the Chief, one day and asks how the Chief got his name. The Chief says, "the morning I was born, my father walked out of his tee pee and saw a grizzly bear chasing across a meadow, so he named me Raging Bear."

The Indian brave then asks how his oldest sister got her name. the Chief says, "the morning your sister was born, I walked out of my tee pee and saw bird flying across the sky, and named your sister Soaring Dove."

The brave then asks how his other sister got her name. The Chief says, :the morning she was born I walked out of my tee pee and saw a deer running across a meadow, and named her Running Doe. Say, why do you ask, Two Dogs Humping?"

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

AHahahahaha!!!

Those were GREAT Dilligaf!

"Say, why do you ask, Two Dogs Humping?"

LMAO!

TomG said...

A conservative, a moderate and a liberal walk into a bar....

The bartender says, Hey, its Mitt Romney!

katie8753 said...

Dill (I hate it that I can't call you Mr. Dill) I love that joke.

I'm part Indian and I still love it.

>>>>The brave then asks how his other sister got her name. The Chief says, :the morning she was born I walked out of my tee pee and saw a deer running across a meadow, and named her Running Doe. Say, why do you ask, Two Dogs Humping?">>>

Except we used to say "two dogs a
fuckin'"

HA HA.

katie8753 said...

TOM!!!! So good to see you!!!! :)

TomG said...

A horse walks into a bar...


the bartender says, Why the long face?

katie8753 said...

HORSETEETH!!! HA HA HA.

Tom, God Bless ya!! Yee-hah!!

Dilligaf said...

A blond walks into a building.

Don't you think she would have seen it coming????

katie8753 said...

Okay let me get back to Big Red. The Gentle Giant.

He was a giant Chestnut Roan. Big guy!!!

At least 10 hands. Lord have mer-say!!! LOL

This animal is beyond anything you'd ever expect.

Watch and bow:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cS4f6wiQJh4

TomG said...

The Great Secretariat. One of the greatest moments of the 1970's. What a beautiful horse.

Greatness seperates from the rest.

MrPoirot said...

Manson may end up like Rudolf Hess at Spandau prison. Hess was strangled at age 92 and the prison was scraped down soon afterwards. I guess they got tired of guarding an old man so they just murdered him out of conveniance. There are more important things to spend money on than hiring around the clock guards to guard a man too old to run away or escape. Life in prison sounds good at the penalty phase of a trial but 50 years later it doesn't make economic sense to keep beating the same dead horse.

TomG said...

I think he goes on as that guy who just won't die. And gets a little more mixed up as the years go by.

And he was plenty mixed up forty years ago. But, he isn't going away. Dude like that can live in solitary confinement with a bag of cashews for a long time.

American Exceptionalism.

katie8753 said...

Lynyrd IS Secretariat!!! This is why I put this up.

He runs so far ahead of the crowd.

He's my hero.

katie8753 said...

Tom I like that comment:

"Greatness seperates from the rest."

I agree.

Ciao!!!

disillusioned said...

Bummer.....

Mrstormsurge said...

Lots of good humor here.

Bing said...

heres one for you all, but it's kinda dirty.

An old man and woman live in the same retirement home. One day the woman complains to the man that she is really horny, and has been for quite some time. The old man suggests that the next time the group of seniors goes on a group outting, the two of them will stay behind to have sex.

Later that week the group goes to visit a Museum.Sure enough both the man and woman stay behind. The man goes up to the woman's room and they proceed to start fooling around.

"What would you like me to do first?" says the man. "When my husband was alive I loved it when he went down on me" replied the woman.So the old man started eating her out. He stops after a few seconds and says "Oh, my God...the smell is horrible, I can't continue"

The woman feeling slightly embaressed responds by saying "I'm sorry that's my arthritis". The Old man looks at her puzzled and replies "arthritis doesn't smell, my dear". And the woman says "No, the arthritis is in my shoulder and I havent been able to wipe myself in years"

katie8753 said...

FYI, George Zimmerman has been charged with 2nd degree murder and is now in custody.

Everybody probably already knew that. LOL.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Ahahahahaha

Bing!
That was both disgusting and hilaroius!
Weird combination. LOLOL Although, George Carlin often successfully combined those two elements as well.

leary7 said...

"fucking Goofy". Don't know why but that cracks me up.
And how appropriate a tag line for a thread on Charlie's idiotic parole hearing.
And I am with ya Lynyrd, it is bittersweet that the whole thing is such a non-event. This guy did "change the times" as it were. Sure would have been nice to have heard his warped yet intriguing thoughts one more time.

leary7 said...

great win for the Flyers last night Tom. B's start tonight, hope our teams meet up again. Though my sleeper pick is Nashville.

katie8753 said...

Bing...yuck!

>>>Leary said: "fucking Goofy". Don't know why but that cracks me up.>>>

I know, I was gonna tell that joke but Dill beat me to it. LOL.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I'm finding these jokes even funnier today, than last night. LOL

I like Tom's:
"A conservative, a moderate and a liberal walk into a bar....
The bartender says, Hey, its Mitt Romney!"

AHahahahaha

Katie's fire joke, and Dilligaf's Indian joke were hilarious also!

I already re-told Dilligaf's a couple times.

"Why all the questions this morning, two dogs humpin"??
AHahahaha

I added my own twists to it.
It just doesn't get old.

Jiri said...

Mr. Poirot, Hess committed suicide. A testament to how powerful a punishment 50 years in prison is. Hess deserved it. Manson deserves it.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Leary said:
"And I am with ya Lynyrd, it is bittersweet that the whole thing is such a non-event. This guy did "change the times" as it were. Sure would have been nice to have heard his warped yet intriguing thoughts one more time".


Yeah...
It was truly the most uneventful... underwhelming "event", I've ever experienced in my life.

Can you imagine?
Manson's entire life... his final "glimmer" at release... was literally flushed down the toilet with yesterday's decision... to absolutely no fanfare what-so-ever.
I mean... look at us.
We're literally using this space to tell jokes.
What a stark example of how devoid interest in this guy has become.

If I was Manson... and I saw this thread... I'd be freakin' depressed.
The guy's entire life, has come down to a few good jokes. LOLOL

Pathetic really...

But seriously though...
What can anyone possibly say?
There's nothing TO say.
He's burn't every possible bridge.
The fat lady has already sung.
He'll be dead by the next hearing.

He's become the parade with no floats, ballons or bands left... just an empty abyss of psycho-babble waiting to die.

As D-Man said it so aptly in one word.
Bummer...

katie8753 said...

I just watched the video on this hearing. WOW!

Manson said this to a psychiatrist:

"I am special. I am not like the average inmate. I have put 5 people in the grave. I've been in prison most of my life. I am a very dangerous man."

I wonder what 5 people he's talking about.

katie8753 said...

Hearing that, it's very clear that Manson has no desire to get out. It's really a blessing that he most likely will never have another parole hearing.

katie8753 said...

I just wonder if "those 2 women" attended or tried to attend this parole hearing.

Seeing that it was so important and all.....

HA HA.

MrPoirot said...

Jiri said...
Mr. Poirot, Hess committed suicide. A testament to how powerful a punishment 50 years in prison is. Hess deserved it. Manson deserves it.

Poirot replies:

No he was murdered. Suicide was the state version released to the public. I had heard he committed suicide too. Since then there has been several doctors review his autopsy and rule out suicide.
Sorry.
Truth is stranger than fiction and less politically correct as well.

katie8753 said...

Mr. P. & Jiri, I don't think it matters HOW Hess died, except that he is DEAD.

He was more monstrous than Manson ever thought about being. Any death for him was too easy. And I hope that all the people he massacred will be able to taunt him for eternity.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I you think he's bad, read-up on that f#cker "Doctor" Mengele.
There's a special place in hell for that maniac.

Dilligaf said...

Katie,

Could you expand a little bit on why you believe that Hess was more monstrous than the Wooly Hophead? Granted, the last time I really spent much time on Hess was in college in 1980, but I do believe that he was acquitted of the two charges of War Crimes, but guilty of conspiracy.

Not taking issue with what you are saying, I am just interested in your perspective.

katie8753 said...

Hi Dill.

In my opinion, anyone who was associated with Hitler, a man who tried to exterminate an entire race just because he felt like it, is just as evil as he is.

Guilt by association? Maybe, but in my mind, even Eva Braun was a more monstrous creature than Manson.

Jiri said...

Mr. Poirot, it is a fact that Rudolf Hess was not murdered. That is a false conspiracy theory perpetuated by his family, specifically his son. There was never any reason to kill a 93 year old man who was doomed to die of old age at Spandau. Plus, both autopsies failed to uncover any evidence of murder.

MrPoirot said...

Katie

Hess had no participation in WW2 or the holocaust because he was in prison in England the entire time of WW2. Hess was supposedly the one who authored/edited/helped Hitler write Mein Kampf. Hess was in prison with Hitler during the creation of the book Mein Kampf in the 1920s.
The reason Hess ended up in prison under Churchill's orders was because Hess fled Hitler's cabal and flew to Scotland at night. He bailed out of the stolen fighter plane and landed on the large estate of a friend who lived on the estate in the hopes the friend could get him to Churchill in order to negotiate a peace between England and Germany.
The reason Hess was prosecuted and never relased from Spandau prison was because Hess' peace treaty ideas were not to prevent WW2 but rather to get England to jion forces with Germany and defeat Russia. This PO'd the Russians real bad. It is the Russians who had the main sayso over Hess' confinement at Spandau. It is most likely the Russians who strangled Hess at age 92.

katie8753 said...

So Mr. P., Hess was just a "good 'ole boy" roguish, good-natured Nazi as epitomized by Col. Wilhelm Klink on Hogan's Heroes?

I thought his title was Deputy to the F├╝hrer. Third in command.

MrPoirot said...

Maybe he was a Col Klink as you say.....dunno. But I do know for certain that he was a nonparticipant in WW2. Churchill stuck Hess in the tower of London and thus turned Hess into his very own canary in a cage. People had this tendency to want to stick Hess into brick cages. Perhaps this was due to Hess' aura of nuttiness that he always emitted. Hess was an outcast even in Spandau prison. i don't know if Hess was insane but he definantly was an odd man as far as personality. I wouldn't describe him as a Col Klink.

How would you describe Tex Watson now if Tex had fled the Manson Family the day before he burned Lotsapoppa but yet the TLB murders still occurred without him participating? Hess was nutty like Tex. Hess worshipped Hitler like Tex worshipped Manson.