tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post961620541724747729..comments2024-03-19T21:34:44.985-04:00Comments on The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog: "Member of the Family" by Dianne Lake - Book ReviewUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger128125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-12925767261754632322017-11-20T19:12:32.696-05:002017-11-20T19:12:32.696-05:00Dilligaf said...
And now, both are cold as ic... Dilligaf said...<br /><br /> <b>And now, both are cold as ice. Too soon?</b><br /><br />It struck me as an interesting juxtaposition. More interesting than Robert Mugabe trying to hand over power to his wife while refusing to go as leader of Zimbabwe, as per the will of the people, his party and the army.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-75192609485094931482017-11-20T09:55:25.501-05:002017-11-20T09:55:25.501-05:00Thanks guys! I was asleep Beauders and shocked wh...Thanks guys! I was asleep Beauders and shocked when I woke up and checked the blog. I made a new thread about Manson dying if anyone wants to comment there.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-89508738478903664242017-11-20T09:53:14.649-05:002017-11-20T09:53:14.649-05:00And now, both are cold as ice. Too soon?And now, both are cold as ice. Too soon?Dilligafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07052411066646010067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-38484797422707260592017-11-20T06:21:45.080-05:002017-11-20T06:21:45.080-05:00katie8753 said...
The victims have had no pri... katie8753 said...<br /><br /> <b>The victims have had no privacy whatsoever</b><br /><br />But that's not because of the justice system. That's been because of the media and, um, people like us.....<br />It's not really our business when it comes to someone's private health situation. And those death shots that are all over the internet, are they sanctioned by the families of the victims ? I doubt it. I remember back in '95 seeing them for the first time in "The Garbage People." I was shocked. I chucked the book after that. I thought it was in real bad taste. Online, there is no control once someone gets hold of something like that.<br />Anyway, Charles Manson's death made the BBC newspage as we all knew it would. It's there right next to "How refrigeration revolutionized global trade."grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-90095725125225476132017-11-20T02:59:12.316-05:002017-11-20T02:59:12.316-05:00Katie must be asleep, she'll have a surprise w...Katie must be asleep, she'll have a surprise when she wakes up.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-83096883021842084002017-11-20T02:21:26.091-05:002017-11-20T02:21:26.091-05:00I just remembered my Manson doll "Firestarter...I just remembered my Manson doll "Firestarter" was supposed to burst into flames upon Manson's death, thankfully it did not happen,beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-39751340873225905322017-11-20T02:09:52.870-05:002017-11-20T02:09:52.870-05:00I'm in Portland, Oregon and all our 11:00PM ne...I'm in Portland, Oregon and all our 11:00PM news is claiming Manson has died.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-50067921219508460172017-11-20T01:34:48.142-05:002017-11-20T01:34:48.142-05:00FoxNews just reported that Manson has died.FoxNews just reported that Manson has died.Mrstormsurgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08979442670384492209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-75276918717289150822017-11-20T01:34:42.390-05:002017-11-20T01:34:42.390-05:00It is everywhere it must be true. Debra Tate was c...It is everywhere it must be true. Debra Tate was contacted and released the information to the press.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-26969547927262917232017-11-20T01:21:22.608-05:002017-11-20T01:21:22.608-05:00Being reported everywhere. Now the circus begins. ...Being reported everywhere. Now the circus begins. At least the weekend closes on a good note....Dilligafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07052411066646010067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-2861933304027117492017-11-20T01:01:46.713-05:002017-11-20T01:01:46.713-05:00According to the N.Y. Times Manson has died.According to the N.Y. Times Manson has died.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-85254729267998787292017-11-19T20:32:24.519-05:002017-11-19T20:32:24.519-05:00I agree Marliese. The victims have had no privacy...I agree Marliese. The victims have had no privacy whatsoever. All kinds of stories have been made up in the media about the victims. I guess it's the way our justice system works. The killers have all the rights in the world, the victims have none.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-84623468601124738642017-11-19T13:04:37.910-05:002017-11-19T13:04:37.910-05:00The comment from the Calif Dept of Corrections as ...The comment from the Calif Dept of Corrections as to state and federal privacy laws preventing the release of protected health information of inmates is ridiculous to me...he's been supported by the public for decades, and Rosemary and Leno LaBianca's bare naked autopsy photos are public and plastered all over the internet, along with crime scene and autopsy photos of all his victims...but the public can't know the medical condition of the likes of Charles Manson? I don't think they've released a precise timeline regarding when he was hospitalized, or his condition. Makes me wonder if he's even still alive...the last statement that he was still alive is days old. Will they wait till it's over and done with to release that news...probably not, still it's maddening in view of the lack of privacy for his victims in every aspect of their lives and brutal deaths.Marliesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920353129039798997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-52791713855011601912017-11-17T21:33:19.516-05:002017-11-17T21:33:19.516-05:00Thanks Grim. That was my initial question. Why w...Thanks Grim. That was my initial question. Why would Leslie burn a rope that day? Just as you said, there was no rope used at the LaBianca murders. No rope mentioned ever at that particular crime scene.<br /><br />So I'll ask again for the TLB audience. Why was Leslie burning a rope? Dianne describes her not only burning a rope, but actually trying to put the burning rope out when she was interrupted. So I think the rope was important to Dianne.<br /><br />But why????katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-90069424858651609262017-11-17T21:10:38.893-05:002017-11-17T21:10:38.893-05:00katie8753 said...
What kind of coin bag needs... katie8753 said...<br /><br /> <b>What kind of coin bag needs a "rope"?</b><br /><br />I don't know. There was never any mention of rope being taken or used or picked up from the LaBiancas. It's an assumption on my part, a poor one perhaps, but maybe if you're going to carry about $8 in loose change with some other coins, the bag you'd have would be shaped like on one of those little bags that would need long string or short rope to tie it, just to stop the coins from falling out.<br />Who knows where it came from or what it was for ? What's significant is that she burned it.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-53083500239624285992017-11-16T21:47:26.746-05:002017-11-16T21:47:26.746-05:00What kind of coin bag needs a "rope"? W...What kind of coin bag needs a "rope"? Was it like a 40 lb. burlap coin bag like you see in cartoons with a $ sign on it? I think when counted up, it only equaled $18 or so.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-17277310874171858912017-11-16T18:17:13.253-05:002017-11-16T18:17:13.253-05:00katie8753 said...
So Grim you're saying t... katie8753 said...<br /><br /> <b>So Grim you're saying the rope that Leslie burned was tied to the coin bag?</b><br /><br />That would be my guess.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-5135650223506591962017-11-15T21:56:19.000-05:002017-11-15T21:56:19.000-05:00It seems the story (which is now being shared by s...It seems the story (which is now being shared by several small-scale news oulets) was first reported on TMZ.<br /><br />I'm not sure how credible TMZ is considered, but here's a link:<br /><br />http://m.tmz.com/#2017/11/15/charles-manson-hospitalized-near-death/<br />LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729740027224198169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-30445419757679546692017-11-15T20:55:50.961-05:002017-11-15T20:55:50.961-05:00Mr. P just let me know that Manson is in the hospi...Mr. P just let me know that Manson is in the hospital again. No idea what's wrong, except that he's been given a "bleak prognosis", which of course, could have been given a long time ago. I'm not going to make a new thread until he croaks or we get more info.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-77900430109650516222017-11-14T00:26:45.807-05:002017-11-14T00:26:45.807-05:00So Grim you're saying the rope that Leslie bur...So Grim you're saying the rope that Leslie burned was tied to the coin bag?katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-13417901264209537892017-11-12T12:40:18.247-05:002017-11-12T12:40:18.247-05:00Hi Frank,
As Katie stated earlier, your opinion i...Hi Frank,<br /><br />As Katie stated earlier, your opinion is always highly respected and appreciated.<br /><br />You've been a true scholar and gentleman on these blogs, since the very beginning.<br /><br />Intelligence, class, decorum and compassion are rare qualities these days, but you sir, have them all in abundance.<br /><br />You are truly "top shelf" in the blog world.<br /><br />I use this phrase often, but it fits so perfectly, so I'll just say it again:<br />It's always a pleasure having you on the blog.<br /><br />Very Sincerely,<br /><br />LSLynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729740027224198169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-54393633499080854062017-11-12T07:35:17.415-05:002017-11-12T07:35:17.415-05:00Thanks for the explanation. No, I am not suggestin...Thanks for the explanation. No, I am not suggesting that posts be removed (for the reasons you give) but relieved that further posts will not appear under that ghastly handle. Sadly, these things have a habit of reappearing - what goes round, comes round. Fingers crossed it doesn't reoccur here.<br /><br />FrankMFrankMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929422641281493764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-53982637775521815242017-11-12T00:09:16.448-05:002017-11-12T00:09:16.448-05:00Frank said:
Addressing my comments to the admin[s...<b>Frank said:<br /><br />Addressing my comments to the admin[s] here, I am inclined to echo Henry II of England who when frustrated by Thomas Becket exhorted his knights, Manson like, with the words <i>Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?</i> I leave it to them to understand whom I am referring to.</b><br /><br /><br />Hi Frank.<br /><br /><i>The meddlesome priest</i> (of which you speak) was ejected at exactly 8:28pm on October 29, 2017.<br /><br />The comment (from that individual) which Grim recently pulled forward (and replied to), was posted before that date/time of ejection.<br /><br />I can assure you, going forward, there will be no further posts published from said individual.<br /><br />Unfortunately, there are however, a few older posts still on the blog, which were posted (by said individual) before the official ejection.<br /><br />If you'd like, I will gladly go back and erase all traces of said individual's participation here.<br /><br />However...<br />I have found through experience, that it can prove beneficial to have a written record of a person's inappropriate behavior (saved on the blog), when such decisions (ejections) are finalized.LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729740027224198169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-6392132087184000502017-11-11T19:28:09.951-05:002017-11-11T19:28:09.951-05:00RE: just dont believe 90 percent of what she says...<b>RE: <i> just dont believe 90 percent of what she says [...] she was just a 14 year old baby who knew nothing</i></b><br /><br />90%? Sure it's not 87%? Or 93%? Plucking a random figure out of the air is meaningless. And if you genuinely failed to believe nine tenths of the book you would have to eliminate dozens of names, places and facts that are known to be true. Get a grip on reality. And stats.<br /><br />And as for her age, I don't know whether you have spent much time with adolescents in the 14-16 age group but IMHO she would have been a pretty streetwise baby I think, even if naive and uninformed. <br /><br />Addressing my comments to the admin[s] here, I am inclined to echo Henry II of England who when frustrated by Thomas Becket exhorted his knights, Manson like, with the words <i>Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest?</i> I leave it to them to understand whom I am referring to.<br /><br />And Grim, thanks for the kind words.FrankMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929422641281493764noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-80229712844592827312017-11-11T19:13:45.811-05:002017-11-11T19:13:45.811-05:00Ah, yes, the coins. Another little aspect of this ...Ah, yes, the coins. Another little aspect of this case that confuses. Mr La Bianca had a coin collection (see for example https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pin/21744010673532617/), but the police reports seem to indicate that this was <b>not</b> stolen. <br /><br /><b>Bugliosi summation:</b> <i>"He [Officer Rodriguez] testified he found several items of value, such as several diamond rings, one of which was marked "14 karat," wristwatches, expensive camera equipment, many rifles and guns, a jar of coins, a coin collection, and other matters of value, personal property, all of which he said were inside the residence and easily accessible to anyone if their intent had been to steal".</i><br /><br />Whether (a part of) the coin collection was stolen is of some importance; it has often been claimed Tex ‘was sent’ to the UK to sell it. And kill poor Joel in the Talgarth Hotel. But hey, it wasn’t. And he didn't.<br /><br />So, what coins is Diane talking about? She writes:<br /><br /><i>When she got out of the shower she showed me a plastic bag of coins and dumped them on the table. We both counted about eight dollars without counting the Canadian nickels.<br />“Here, Snake, you can have these.”<br />Coins meant snacks, so I gladly grabbed the bag and returned the coins. I thought it was a nice little haul. I had no idea that aside from a brown purse, credit cards and chocolate milk, this was all that was taken from the home of Leno and Rosemary LaBianca, both victims of Charlie’s madness and a killing spree intended to set off Helter Skelter.</i><br /><br />So, eight dollars, loose cash presumably. Maybe nor so dumb to take it, loose and unmarked cash is pretty much untraceable, as is a plastic bag. And it might have covered a ride home.<br /><br />FrankMFrankMhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15929422641281493764noreply@blogger.com