tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post945008216076781378..comments2024-03-19T21:34:44.985-04:00Comments on The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger49125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-64101014770922680872015-11-12T17:48:23.105-05:002015-11-12T17:48:23.105-05:00fiona1933 said...
"He really was very Christ... fiona1933 said...<br /><br />"He really was very Christ-like in many ways. Jesus was good with women too. He also talked to them as if they were human and important and told them their minds and spiritual quests were more important than housework"<br /><br /><br />That's a very perceptive comment and very true. Women flocked to Jesus too and interestingly, they were the ones to actually believe he could raise a dead man or when he rose from the dead, it was they that believed before the men would.<br /><br />At some point, I will get around to telling my kids there are more important things than housework....but not yet !grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-40156671296620528822011-10-21T07:41:39.886-04:002011-10-21T07:41:39.886-04:00I think charlie's way with women was to listen...I think charlie's way with women was to listen to them and al least act as if he was treating them as people and not objects. To the guys, he gave a macho spiel of "women are to fuck" but not to the girls themselves. and to this very day there seems hardly a man that will do this, and those that have the wit to do it will have girls flocking to them.<br /><br />He really was very Christ-like in many ways. Jesus was good with women too. He also talked to them as if they were human and important and told them their minds and spiritual quests were more important than housework.fiona1933https://www.blogger.com/profile/00041216158548547908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-25342690011650763112011-10-12T02:35:54.472-04:002011-10-12T02:35:54.472-04:00maybe it was more a situation of manson telling sc...maybe it was more a situation of manson telling schram that poston, watkins, and crockett were killers and when they ran away maybe she thought manson would sent the men after the two girls.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-43808083678883801632011-10-11T17:38:23.883-04:002011-10-11T17:38:23.883-04:00in watkins book he claims to not have known about ...in watkins book he claims to not have known about the girls escape.he says that he was broke and living in a cave with crockett and posten at the time and that they were warned by don ward about the upcoming bust at barker ranch<br /><br />'i did'nt know then,nor did brooks or crockett,that during the raid stephanie and kitty lutesinger had been trying to escape from the family'Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-21773645603064883032011-10-11T15:08:55.948-04:002011-10-11T15:08:55.948-04:00sometimes the ones who don't rant and rave are...sometimes the ones who don't rant and rave are the ones you've got to look out for!Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-19628808875779717012011-10-11T13:43:17.320-04:002011-10-11T13:43:17.320-04:00SBuch, those are great questions.
If Cat's ev...<b>SBuch, those are great questions.<br /><br />If Cat's ever schedules Stephanie to come back (on the show) in the future, I'll submit those questions ahead.<br />Who knows... maybe they'll use them.<br /><br />Peace... Lynyrd.</b>LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603696815079837528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-25833666069060075482011-10-11T12:26:58.827-04:002011-10-11T12:26:58.827-04:00I finally remembered who Brian Davis reminds me of...I finally remembered who Brian Davis reminds me of. Sonny Melendrez. HA HA. His voice is exactly the same. :)katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-41516829580349117942011-10-11T12:26:08.164-04:002011-10-11T12:26:08.164-04:00It would probably be useless to ask her what attra...It would probably be useless to ask her what attracted her to a jobless, pimping, thieving, hairy, short goomer who talked in riddles and beat on her. <br /><br />But I'd really like to get into that.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-54906158050664271352011-10-11T12:24:42.423-04:002011-10-11T12:24:42.423-04:00>>>Sbuch said: I'd like to have aske...>>>Sbuch said: I'd like to have asked Stephanie....<br /><br />1. Did Manson refer to the people at the ranch as the Family? He claims the press made it up.<br />2. Did he talk about Helter Skelter?<br />3. On August 8th did you hear Manson say, "Now is the time for Helter Skelter"?>>><br /><br />Good questions Sbuch. I don't think that Manson referred to them as a "family". I think it was the other members who thought that.<br /><br />I don't know if he used the term "Helter Skelter", but when they had dinner with Stephanie's sister, he was going off about war and how dead bodies were going to be found on lawns. So he was definitely talking about it.<br /><br />I don't know if Stephanie would hear Manson say "now is the time for Helter Skelter". It sounds like when they got to the ranch she was just kind of nervous and scared and wanted to get away from the crowd.<br /><br />>>>What would you guys have asked her?>>><br /><br />Well as Matt pointed out, I'd like to ask her about Watkins, et al trying to kill her.<br /><br />I think I'd also like to pin her down on exactly what she heard and saw at the Ranch on August 9th & 10th, 1969. I think she's being a little vague about it.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-25371173638405733592011-10-11T12:18:56.785-04:002011-10-11T12:18:56.785-04:00Matt I agree. Stephanie did say that Watkins, Pos...Matt I agree. Stephanie did say that Watkins, Poston & Crockett were chasing them to kill them. I really don't know why she thought that.<br /><br />I don't know Paul Watkins from Adam, but he seems believable when he's talking. He doesn't rant and rave and brag like the others. His story makes sense to me.<br /><br />Stephanie doesn't say why she thought they were going to kill them. I agree, that should have been pursued further because it's unlike what we've heard before.<br /><br />I got the feeling that Paul Watkins went back to the family after Charlie was arrested because he felt safer to be there. I could be wrong.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-7258607836352903502011-10-11T09:15:39.774-04:002011-10-11T09:15:39.774-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.jempudhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02951791860743186080noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-20026269206029929452011-10-10T23:20:02.743-04:002011-10-10T23:20:02.743-04:00katie i'm pretty sure thats what she said.
sh...katie i'm pretty sure thats what she said.<br /> she knows the difference between clem and watkins so what made her think that watkins and posten wanted to kill them?<br /> if you watch the manson gang dvd theres paul watkins hanging out with the family(and clem) after the murders.<br /> maybe in his book and testimony pw makes himself out to be more anti manson than he really was to make himself look like one of the good guys.<br /> or maybe stephanie misspoke.<br /> i'll have to get out the watkins book again but i'll bet you if its mentioned in there watkins will say he helped them escape.<br /> if he lied about that then everything he says is suspect.<br /> that why i felt a few followup questions would have been in order.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-44577934384335024732011-10-10T23:05:59.581-04:002011-10-10T23:05:59.581-04:00I'd like to have asked Stephanie....
1. Did M...I'd like to have asked Stephanie....<br /><br />1. Did Manson refer to the people at the ranch as the Family? He claims the press made it up.<br />2. Did he talk about Helter Skelter?<br />3. On August 8th did you hear Manson say, "Now is the time for Helter Skelter"?<br /><br />What would you guys have asked her?sbuch113https://www.blogger.com/profile/01794368422535955408noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-55402590567811739262011-10-10T22:15:09.200-04:002011-10-10T22:15:09.200-04:00Matt, you and I, and anyone with any brains, knows...Matt, you and I, and anyone with any brains, knows that Poston, Watkins & Crockett were not chasing Stephanie or anyone else to kill them. It was Clem.<br /><br />Why would they be doing that? They weren't even with Manson then. <br /><br />Why would Stephanie think that?<br /><br />Manson planted that thought in her head. He was mad at at Paul Watkins for leaving his "cult". He was mad at Poston for "prying away his prey".katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-56414859014056968052011-10-10T21:38:13.271-04:002011-10-10T21:38:13.271-04:00does anyone but me find it strange that watkins,po...does anyone but me find it strange that watkins,poston and crockett who had(supposedly) broken with manson by this time would be chasing the girls through the desert trying(ss thought)to kill them?<br /> begs a few follow up questions if you ask me.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-18456000017045627292011-10-10T20:43:32.778-04:002011-10-10T20:43:32.778-04:00Sorry guys, I haven't had time to post for a w...Sorry guys, I haven't had time to post for a while. I'm working on a REALLY good thread. I think you're all gonna "dig it". HA HA.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-48579271341541265142011-10-10T19:55:05.219-04:002011-10-10T19:55:05.219-04:00Of course... if you wanted to listen to older epis...Of course... if you wanted to listen to older episodes as well... the other link, probably would have been more helpful. LOL<br /><br />It's the old "chicken or the egg" situation, I guess.<br /><br />Tom's link is more direct for the Shcram interview specifically...LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603696815079837528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-34711825481699575252011-10-10T19:40:32.264-04:002011-10-10T19:40:32.264-04:00Thanks Tom.
I updated the link... I swapped it fo...Thanks Tom.<br /><br />I updated the link... I swapped it for yours.<br /><br />The other link evidently wasn't working for some folks.<br /><br />Well... it actually worked fine... but you had to navigate one extra step (choosing the episode you wanted, i.e., "Schram")... which ultimately led to your page anyway...<br /><br />Your link saves a step...LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603696815079837528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-26204919910517084842011-10-10T18:38:36.518-04:002011-10-10T18:38:36.518-04:00I was able to listen to this interview a second ti...I was able to listen to this interview a second time at this link;<br /><br />http://truthontatelabianca.com/topic/4518-10092011-special-guest-stephanie-schram/<br /><br />Hope it works for you.TomGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17647303118718364687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-36652283403513677542011-10-10T18:35:28.637-04:002011-10-10T18:35:28.637-04:00I can't seem to locate the You Tube video for ...I can't seem to locate the You Tube video for this interview on Cat's site. Is it there??katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-75184113534818880972011-10-10T17:43:59.105-04:002011-10-10T17:43:59.105-04:00Yes, Thanks to Cats & Brian ...and Stephanie! ...Yes, Thanks to Cats & Brian ...and Stephanie! Great show.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-39474783321741786342011-10-10T04:43:43.997-04:002011-10-10T04:43:43.997-04:00Thanks to everyone for sharing some glimpses here,...Thanks to everyone for sharing some glimpses here, regarding the show.<br /><br />Unfortunately, I missed the program, but I will definitely be listening tomorrow.<br /><br />Thanks to Cats and Brian Davis for a great program!<br /><br />I'll be running a thread for the Garretson interview next week, as well.<br /><br />This ROCKS!<br /><br />I hope Cat's has several more kick-ass interviews lined-up!<br /><br />Keep us posted Cats!LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603696815079837528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-87652338890832805912011-10-09T21:44:48.270-04:002011-10-09T21:44:48.270-04:00Hi Marliese.
Yes indeedy. Charlie had plenty of ...Hi Marliese.<br /><br />Yes indeedy. Charlie had plenty of time to get back to the ranch on August 8th to order the murders. And Stephanie also revealed, as in the book Helter Skelter, that she and Charlie went to the trailer for sex, and he left and didn't return until the early morning hours of August 9th. Which left him plenty of time to order the murders, then to go to Cielo Drive and move things around, returning to the trailer in the early morning hours of August 9th.<br /><br />There should be no more whining that Charlie wasn't there! HA HA.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-5026770649058424092011-10-09T21:37:26.210-04:002011-10-09T21:37:26.210-04:00Hi Kimchi. Thanks for the heads up. Good stuff!!...Hi Kimchi. Thanks for the heads up. Good stuff!!!<br /><br />She did say that she was "in love" with Charlie at first. She said he had "a way with women". I've heard this before but I really don't understand it.<br /><br />A guy takes you to Esalean and beats the crap out of you. And that's love???<br /><br />Maybe I was just a protected little baby back in 1969, but I'd never have anything to do with a guy like that.<br /><br />Well...let's back up. I'd never gotten into a Hostess Twinkie Truck with anyone...not ever. HA HA.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-76571140275420220192011-10-09T21:35:43.059-04:002011-10-09T21:35:43.059-04:00My take on all of that, when you are a teenager an...My take on all of that, when you are a teenager and high on drugs, you love everything. Until maybe it goes bad, as it apparently did at Chatsworth that summer.TomGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17647303118718364687noreply@blogger.com