tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post6711769709932044384..comments2024-03-19T21:34:44.985-04:00Comments on The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog: The Defense Team - Ronald Hughes, Irving Kanarek, Daye Shinn, Paul FitzgeraldUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger62125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-12755473902815882222022-07-25T11:31:25.901-04:002022-07-25T11:31:25.901-04:00LOL.LOL.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-7590534687405384032022-07-25T03:13:12.094-04:002022-07-25T03:13:12.094-04:00That's funny Katie I was going to ask you when...That's funny Katie I was going to ask you when did Bill grow a heart and why is Li in the alley where Finn and Stephie got shot? That restaurant also now is a wedding venue, remember a few week ago. Soaps are ridiculous but that's what makes them fun. I remember Guiding Light had a clone storyline that ended in the clone committing suicide so her person could live her whole life and Days of Our Lives just finished up a storyline that included possession by Satan and exorcism.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-61505670361028218452022-07-22T22:22:06.418-04:002022-07-22T22:22:06.418-04:00Hey Beauders, how do you think Li got from the Oce...Hey Beauders, how do you think Li got from the Ocean to the alley at the only restaurant in LA? And when did Bill get so nice that he asks attack victims to come to his house for treatment?katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-50687985340235289312022-07-21T22:10:33.310-04:002022-07-21T22:10:33.310-04:00Grim, is Watson now admitting to mutilating his fe...Grim, is Watson now admitting to mutilating his female victim's faces in parole hearings?beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-42367250118251800572022-07-19T08:15:07.958-04:002022-07-19T08:15:07.958-04:00beauders said...
Are you thinking Grim, that mayb... beauders said...<br /><br /><b>Are you thinking Grim, that maybe Pat stabbed the women, mutilating their faces?</b><br /><br />No. But there may have been a certain sadistic/jealous gleeon her part, in knowing that some pretty women <i>were</i> having their faces mutilated.<br />We can be strange, we human beings.<br /><br />grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-60306918816767551122022-07-17T21:28:11.427-04:002022-07-17T21:28:11.427-04:00Oh yeah
She was NOT there. It was all the lawyers...Oh yeah<br /><br />She was NOT there. It was all the lawyers who sought her out and coached her/paid her...only to have her have a massive mental breakdown and bail in them<br /><br />She had a pretty voracious appetite for drugs. <br /><br />Might have even had a baby since and that kinda was her "wake up call."<br /><br />CheersDoughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388908256992077315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-53719156329832564132022-07-17T20:35:44.795-04:002022-07-17T20:35:44.795-04:00Are you thinking Grim, that maybe Pat stabbed the ...Are you thinking Grim, that maybe Pat stabbed the women, mutilating their faces?beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-14187815455580054402022-07-15T05:43:36.598-04:002022-07-15T05:43:36.598-04:00beauders said:
as an ugly girl Pat had to have a ...beauders said:<br /><br /><b>as an ugly girl Pat had to have a lot of rage in her. Imagine Krenwinkel meeting up with Tate, Folger, and Mrs. LaBianca all accomplished, successful, beautiful women and she had their fate in her hands</b><br /><br />I don't know if she had a lot of rage in her at that point, like Susan or Leslie might have had, but the main point you make is a really interesting one. Even though Sharon, Abigail and Rosemary were about to go to bed or had been gotten out of bed, they were really attractive women, particularly Rosemary. Susan Atkins' first impression of the victims at Cielo was that they were beautiful people. And remember, she saw them in the dead of night, the wee hours.<br />In his last parole hearing, one of the panel members asked Charles Watson if he had a thing about disfiguring the womens' faces, but your point makes me wonder whether in fact Pat would have been glad to see them mutilated, even though overall she was shaken by what they'd done. grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-33441350698835299712022-07-14T21:26:32.773-04:002022-07-14T21:26:32.773-04:00Beauders I think almost every day what those TLB k...Beauders I think almost every day what those TLB killers think about. Do they wish they had never met Charles Manson? They have to be thinking something along those lines. Because of Manson, they have been in prison almost all of their lives. Was it worth it?<br /><br />Can you imagine being in prison all these years? At first trying to justify it, and then later trying to re-invent it?<br /><br />I don't feel sorry for them because they took life in their own hands. They should have thought about it before they committed murder. They were led so easily into killing people they didn't even know!!<br /><br />They should never get out!katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-8371582785812515422022-07-14T19:19:49.800-04:002022-07-14T19:19:49.800-04:00I agree Katie, as an ugly girl Pat had to have a l...I agree Katie, as an ugly girl Pat had to have a lot of rage in her. Imagine Krenwinkel meeting up with Tate, Folger, and Mrs. LaBianca all accomplished, successful, beautiful women and she had they're fate in her hands. Remember it was Krenwinkel who told Watson to kill Tate when they were arguing about what to do with her. Technically she didn't kill anyone, Watson gave all the death blows but she did a lot of damage. I really think Krenwinkel has changed but I don't think she will truly ever be released. beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-73011084613162513152022-07-14T04:04:19.277-04:002022-07-14T04:04:19.277-04:00Dilligaf said:
Let’s go with the premise that Bru...Dilligaf said:<br /><br /><b>Let’s go with the premise that Bruce Davis is suffering from Dementia, and that it certainly will not get better for him. Which is the better scenario for him, remaining incarcerated in a faculty that on some levels he is still familiar with, or release him on a compassionate parole, only to be warehoused in a care facility which lacks any familiarity?</b><br /><br />Without a doubt, the former.<br />Is it possible that parole would be denied because the inmate has dementia and there's no one to take care of them if they were released from prison ? It does seem odd that someone who had been recommended 7 times should get a denial ~ unless he did something pretty cataclysmic that we don't yet know about.grimtravellerhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00025774296829848608noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-81101842319074892002022-07-14T00:05:04.010-04:002022-07-14T00:05:04.010-04:00So here is a question to ponder. Let’s go with th...So here is a question to ponder. Let’s go with the premise that Bruce Davis is suffering from Dementia, and that it certainly will not get better for him. Which is the better scenario for him, remaining incarcerated in a faculty that on some levels he is still familiar with, or release him on a compassionate parole, only to be warehoused in a care facility which lacks any familiarity?Dilligafhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07052411066646010067noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-48578486297055359352022-07-13T21:13:10.778-04:002022-07-13T21:13:10.778-04:00Thanks Beauders.
Pat is, in my opinion, a class...Thanks Beauders. <br /><br />Pat is, in my opinion, a classic case of "a whole bag of wrong". She was ugly and Manson paid attention to her. That's all it took to make her into a killer. Sad, but you have to think about it. It was that easy to get her to kill. How many ugly women are out there for creeps to get them to kill. Think about that when you think about releasing Pat.<br /><br />When I think of Bruce, I think of that smug dickhead that came out of hiding and seemed to be very excited that he was the center of attention, even though he didn't even know what he was talking about. I read he has dementia now. Which suits him. He doesn't even know if he's coming or going. Like our current president. HA HA!<br /><br />Reminds me of this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ir48q9U089Qkatie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-27387295709036581482022-07-12T22:29:39.380-04:002022-07-12T22:29:39.380-04:00I wish Davis was the Zodiac, that would make him a...I wish Davis was the Zodiac, that would make him a whole lot more interesting to me.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-80204659085925305492022-07-12T17:44:34.336-04:002022-07-12T17:44:34.336-04:00For those interested Patricia Krenwinkel's 202...For those interested Patricia Krenwinkel's 2022 parole hearing where she was granted parole is online at cielodrive.com. I was looking forward to hearing her reaction when she was granted parole but it wasn't there, I would think it was quite a surprise. I hope the recorded version is released at some point. Bruce Davis was denied parole the other day. It really hurts his chances that when the police came to him with complete immunity for the Scientology Murders (Doreen Gaul and James Sharp) and he said no thanks he was loyal to Manson and loved the man and had nothing to tell them. From what I understand Davis has dementia and would be released to a facility, so nothing much would change for him anyway. The thing about Davis is I don't think he knew anything anyway, he was just being a jerk, these people bragged about their murders and talked too much, which has not happened with these murders, so I don't think the Family was involved. Whoever killed Marina Habe and Jane Doe 59 (I forget her name) may have done the Scientology murders as well. Davis of course with his great Christian conversion never felt compelled to come forward in the last 50+ years so he's gonna get what he gave, nothing. And no he is not the Zodiac.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-68614674397426906822022-07-11T09:44:22.928-04:002022-07-11T09:44:22.928-04:00Doug, in the video it says that Helena was so stru...Doug, in the video it says that Helena was so strung out on mescaline that she couldn't remember where she was that night. And that story changed several times, but she was pretty much proved unbelievable. And the hippy friends she hung out with couldn't be placed at the McDonald house that night through forensic evidence.<br /><br />There was quite a bit of evidence at the scene that proved McDonald was lying, but I think the most telling thing was that his wife and kids were all stabbed with knives and an ice pick and beaten to death with a board, and he only sustained superficial stab wounds in the chest and abdomen. And since he was a doctor, he knew what he was doing. <br /><br />Were the bloodthirsty hippies just too tired to rip him apart too???katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-54912621763964618432022-07-11T04:23:58.036-04:002022-07-11T04:23:58.036-04:00Helena Stokely - girl in the floppy hat & blo...Helena Stokely - girl in the floppy hat & blonde wig<br /><br />Wouldn't it be something if that was a Tex Watson wig?<br /><br />Wouldn't it be something if she was actually there and Jeffery McDonald was actually telling the truth and not a horrendously awful POS liar...<br /><br />Doughttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17388908256992077315noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-70041970263997809332022-07-09T22:26:34.156-04:002022-07-09T22:26:34.156-04:00I watched a video of Jeffery McDonald today and re...I watched a video of Jeffery McDonald today and remembered that he allegedly killed his family in 1970 and blamed it on hippies like the Cielo Drive murders because he read in a magazine what happened on Cielo Drive. <br /><br />He said some hippies came into his house and massacred his pregnant wife and children, but somehow just wounded him. He said they were saying "Acid is groovy" and "death to pigs".<br /><br />Reminds me of Chris Watts, except Chris left out the hippies...katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-91371341574315310462022-07-07T19:33:13.846-04:002022-07-07T19:33:13.846-04:00I remember reading somewhere that Manson was in fa...I remember reading somewhere that Manson was in favor of exterminating the population of the Earth to keep it permanently at a certain number to control the environment. I'm sure he wasn't on the extermination list...<br /><br />BTW, this has all been prophesied in The Revelation of John.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-48801097648426319952022-07-07T11:56:55.843-04:002022-07-07T11:56:55.843-04:00Yes, Manson seemed to be a proponent of the New Wo...<br />Yes, Manson seemed to be a proponent of the New World Order. Where did he get these ideas?<br /><br /><br />"Sympathy for the Devil, the Greening of Charles Manson" is the title of a chapter in a book called No Success Like Failure, by Ivan Solotaroff, c.1994 pg157<br />.... She(Goode) became "Blue" in 1974, when Manson... initiated the Order of (the) Rainbow.... All governments were to become one, with headquarters in China, and all monetary systems reduced to one, placed on computers, so that the screens would read out Manson's name: 666. ...<br />Goode: "As long as he is held down, until he is given his will to set policy for survival on an international, environmental global order, there is no hope, no order, no love. Just the ghoul your guilt-fear made him into."<br /><br /><br />Helter Skelter, by Vince Bugliosi, c. 1994(25th anniversary edition) pg499<br />That same year(1986) he(Manson) wrote President Ronald Reagan at the White House... ...he told Reagan: "I'm the last guy in line but I've got all the thoughts for the balance of order and peace with a one-world government if we are to survive."starviegohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11256800799989566468noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-40357784000545671232022-07-07T08:36:02.992-04:002022-07-07T08:36:02.992-04:00Somebody blew up the Georgia Guidestones. Isn'...Somebody blew up the Georgia Guidestones. Isn't that something Manson used to quote?<br /><br />https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/what-did-the-georgia-guidestones-say-mysterious-words-on-blown-up-monument/ar-AAZjy0Mkatie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-46687996219623384672022-07-04T11:52:14.361-04:002022-07-04T11:52:14.361-04:00👍👍GhostOfMojoRisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01997255616826128850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-22775763495496787212022-07-03T22:31:17.296-04:002022-07-03T22:31:17.296-04:00Mojo!!!! Good to see ya!!!Mojo!!!! Good to see ya!!!katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-2300983032819468242022-07-03T22:29:32.699-04:002022-07-03T22:29:32.699-04:00I had a boss many moons ago that was a Mormon. Goo...I had a boss many moons ago that was a Mormon. Good guy.GhostOfMojoRisenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01997255616826128850noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-47141723586063897592022-07-02T10:26:16.877-04:002022-07-02T10:26:16.877-04:00I don't know much about Mormons. I've nev...I don't know much about Mormons. I've never met any. I don't know if they stay away from Texas or not. Take the Warren Jeffs cult. Moving to Eldorado, Texas was the biggest mistake he could have made. They took him down like Nixon. I watched some of his trial and he told the Judge he was going to have her killed if she sentenced him and she said "okay", then sentenced him. LOL.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.com