tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post6313615581862408310..comments2024-03-19T21:34:44.985-04:00Comments on The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger57125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-12514548368339210662018-08-30T17:38:02.555-04:002018-08-30T17:38:02.555-04:00Anybody have any information on the other deaths i...Anybody have any information on the other deaths in the house besides Paul Bern's??? It say 2 other people committed suicide in the house and 1 other person drowned in the pool...But there isn't any info about it on-line..Seems just as interesting.......................Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17150387746738773355noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-35553999490426097472017-12-19T00:53:32.726-05:002017-12-19T00:53:32.726-05:00PS; There were 2 dressing rooms and I believe the ...PS; There were 2 dressing rooms and I believe the laundry room under the house by the pool. That's where the carvings of the "famous" people are carved on the ends of the beams. <br /><br />We had no garage. We parked in a carport at the top of the stairs on Rimmel. I was up there last year and took pictures. The place is a bit rundown and has a lot of junk throw around. Sharmagne Leland-St. John-Sylberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02704790410534339481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-87637223472002321302017-12-19T00:48:15.517-05:002017-12-19T00:48:15.517-05:00This is nuts! Yes, the house had a kitchen. The ...This is nuts! Yes, the house had a kitchen. The kitchen also had a rain machine outside the window because it was on the same wall as the master bedroom. <br /><br />I have not been in the house since I lived there with Jay. But my memory was that you walked in and to the left was the bookcase with the hidden bar room behind it. The living room had open beams as did the master.<br /><br />I am recalling diamond or mullion paned windows on the north side of the house, overlooking the pool. If you walked through the living room, there was a normal stairway on the left leading up to the 2nd floor where there was the master bedroom and master bath and a walk-in closet. at the other end of the master was a room that we used as a gym. The master had electric curtains and a rain machine on the south end, so we heard rain as we slept at night. On the north sde of the bedroom was a window seat with the leaded glass diamond panes. There are photos on the nternet of me in that window taken by Mr. Hatami and another one in the living room, but it is a close-up, so you can''t see any details of the living room. I am thinking there was a fireplace to the left of the main stairway.<br />up a smaller stairway there was on the right a bathroom and on the left a bedroom with dormers and slanted ceilings. Jay kept most of his clothes in this closet and it had the slanted ceils. <br /><br />Steve Mc Queen frequently slept in this room when he stayed over. <br /><br />The dining room was up a stair or two at the south end of the living room and there was a back door off this room. We rarely used the dining room.The Kitchen was basically under the stairway and n the same level as the Dining room. It had a plate glass window behind the sink and artificial plants to resemble a rain forest.<br /><br />I am fairly certain the house for sale which is being touted as part of the Sebring Estate was in actuality The Carmichael's home it was on Easton Drive before the right turn on to Rimmel which is where the actual entrance to our home was. The Carmichaels were the servants of Paul Bern. There was a flagstone stairway leading from the pool down to their "cottage" During our time there a bartender/actor named Sandy Kevin (McPeak) lived in the cottage. He worked at Sneaky Pate's on the sunset strip. Our next closest neighour was Stu Whitman. He was at the very end of Easton. <br /><br />I don't remember a spiral staircase and I believe I would because I used to hate spiral staircases. <br />Sharmagne Leland-St. John-Sylberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02704790410534339481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-40980546288908526962013-03-16T16:56:38.359-04:002013-03-16T16:56:38.359-04:00Starship, she's clearly wearing her wedding ri...Starship, she's clearly wearing her wedding ring. Look at the coat she's wearing, she also wore it in photos with Roman. Plus, look at the hair. Jay's hair was shorter when he and Sharon were dating. It's longer and shaggier here. She was definitely married when the home movies were taken.Venushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510083489728391657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-18591580928189763052013-01-09T20:52:30.543-05:002013-01-09T20:52:30.543-05:00Thanks Leigh. Venus knows all about Jay & Sha...Thanks Leigh. Venus knows all about Jay & Sharon.<br /><br />You don't have to lurk. Post any time you want. <br /><br /><i>We may doze...but we never close...</i><br /><br />Sometimes we get a little rowdy, but we always kiss and make up. LOL <br /><br />If you have an idea for a thread, just send it to Lynyrd. You will be given full credit.<br /><br />Thanks again! :)katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-33893931576115564302013-01-09T12:37:21.260-05:002013-01-09T12:37:21.260-05:00Really enjoyed this post so popping in to give it ...Really enjoyed this post so popping in to give it some love. More broadly speaking, I genuinely enjoy this blog and its contributors and I believe Lynyrd does his best to run it with fairness and integrity. I don't like every single thing that every person posts, but so what? Like any blog, there things to take and things to leave. The frequency of my lurking speaks for itself though. Keep on keepin' on, LSB3.Leighhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08393740032118568782noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-30994505230287923842013-01-04T18:39:30.347-05:002013-01-04T18:39:30.347-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-664642530339869822013-01-04T15:22:54.953-05:002013-01-04T15:22:54.953-05:00Yes, look I have to express my doubts: I really d...Yes, look I have to express my doubts: I really do not believe the Sharon Tate Home Movies shot at JS house was while she was married to Roman. It just doesn't feel right...I looked at them again and if she has something on her finger, I am not at all sure what it is. Wasn't she engaged to Jay as well? Might it not have been that kind of band?<br /><br />Anyway, I looked around and can't seem to find any other context for the time. If anyone out there can that would be very interesting indeed. starshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-65082723602685436732013-01-04T15:22:46.227-05:002013-01-04T15:22:46.227-05:00Yes, look I have to express my doubts: I really d...Yes, look I have to express my doubts: I really do not believe the Sharon Tate Home Movies shot at JS house was while she was married to Roman. It just doesn't feel right...I looked at them again and if she has something on her finger, I am not at all sure what it is. Wasn't she engaged to Jay as well? Might it not have been that kind of band?<br /><br />Anyway, I looked around and can't seem to find any other context for the time. If anyone out there can that would be very interesting indeed. starshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-28013827664593701572013-01-03T23:49:34.256-05:002013-01-03T23:49:34.256-05:00on Behalf of Lynyrd, Happy Kwanza
on Behalf of Lynyrd, Happy Kwanza<br />johnnyseattlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10315694616360383693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-65330938578045697942013-01-03T22:46:21.105-05:002013-01-03T22:46:21.105-05:00I wasn't going to comment again today, but you...I wasn't going to comment again today, but you guys are the sweetest, warmest, most caring people I think I've ever encountered on an internet blog. And that's saying a lot about a "Manson" blog. LOL.<br /><br />Brian, you're right. Frank M. is amazing. I'm a vocabulary and grammar buff, but when Frank speaks I have to run for the dictionary most times.<br /><br />Venus & Carol, I can't wait to see the documentary on Jay. I hope it comes out soon.<br /><br />Mr. P, I agree with everything you said about Jay & Sharon. Spot on.<br /><br />La De La...Master Baiters. HA HA HA.<br /><br />Hi Sunset!!<br /><br />Johnny you crack me up. <br /><br />Hi Bobby!!! <br /><br />Now...as Red Skelton used to say every week...<br /><br /><i>Good night, and God Bwess</i><br /><br />'Night!katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-27110947056267261192013-01-03T22:00:34.169-05:002013-01-03T22:00:34.169-05:00Frank M, you are one of the best writers I have ev...Frank M, you are one of the best writers I have ever read anywhere.<br />Thanks !Brian Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00846299736165215660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-1262657669968552082013-01-03T21:47:38.591-05:002013-01-03T21:47:38.591-05:00well, looks like the brouhaha is over and hopefull...well, looks like the brouhaha is over and hopefully everyone has come to terms. <br /><br />lynyrd, your blog is not a joke. i regularly visit it to see what's going on. running a successful blog is no little task and it's clear that with these new contributors you'll be putting out some powerful threads in 2013. btw, i appreciate that you've allowed me to come and comment. <br /><br />katie, you're a good person and i know you get angry because you care deeply about this subject. i hope you continue to post here. on matters related to helter-skelter i always listen to what you have to say on the topic. <br /><br />-----------------<br />now, lets all get along in honor of Lynryd. everyone knows that his favorite holiday is coming up and he will tolerate no fighting during Kwanza. <br /><br /><br /><br />johnnyseattlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10315694616360383693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-83801837605170317512013-01-03T20:12:42.686-05:002013-01-03T20:12:42.686-05:00Carol, he started woeking on it a few years ago. ...Carol, he started woeking on it a few years ago. That's when I first read about it. I think it's a tremendous undertaking and I'm sure he wants to honor his uncle and do it well. Dominick Dunne spoke kindly about Jay in one of his books so I'll be interested in hearing his comments in the documentary.Venushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510083489728391657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-79464225066513139872013-01-03T20:10:54.238-05:002013-01-03T20:10:54.238-05:00I think the baby would've made a big differenc...I think the baby would've made a big difference too. Would Sharon have wanted to stay with a guy who cheated on her and raise her baby in that atmosphere? She didn't even tlel him she was pregnant until it was too late for her to get an abortion. Of course, we'll never know the answers to these questions, but it makes you wonder.Venushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510083489728391657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-14455875329380241562013-01-03T20:09:30.224-05:002013-01-03T20:09:30.224-05:00I hope you're right about Jay's nephew'...I hope you're right about Jay's nephew's documentary, Venus. Dominick Dunne has been gone a couple of years, so I guess Anthony has been working on his docu for quite some time. CarolMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357698369178272616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-20055543940408055372013-01-03T19:35:37.905-05:002013-01-03T19:35:37.905-05:00Voytek was using Roman's friendship as an in t...Voytek was using Roman's friendship as an in to being a writer in the entertainment world. Voytek had no money and Gibby did. Gibby liked being connected to the Hollywood scene which Voytek provided. Every friendship in that house was built off what Roman. Would Roman stay with Sharon? Would Roman jumpstart Voytek's career?<br /><br />Everything was precarious. Gibby worried Voytek was a rollng stone. Sharon knew Roman was a cad. Voytek knew Roman was tired of him being a hanger-on. Cielo was a miniature Peyton Place. Then Charlie came in and effed up everything.MrPoirothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155552886069024565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-69382773128411350142013-01-03T19:28:38.268-05:002013-01-03T19:28:38.268-05:00Mr. Poirot, I've occasionally had the same tho...Mr. Poirot, I've occasionally had the same thoughts.Venushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510083489728391657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-66238870482542603632013-01-03T19:25:29.970-05:002013-01-03T19:25:29.970-05:00Wow Mary...
You're "flourishing in the ba...Wow Mary...<br />You're <i>"flourishing in the banking industry"</i>?? LOL<br />Holy cow.<br />That's probably the best reason I've heard yet, for not reading a "hippie book"! LOL<br /><br />Well, anyway... keep up the good work... and remember me, when you come into your fortune! LOL<br />Maybe we could throw a party.<br />It'd be kinda like "Weekend at Bernie's", except your name isn't Bernie... and you <i>don't</i> die! LOL<br />Weekend at Mary's??? LOL<br /><br />I'm just teasin' ya.<br />I'm glad you're doing well.<br /><br />I can <i>totally</i> relate.<br />I'm often distracted by banking success, as well... AHahahaha<br /><br />You ROCK Mary! <br />Happy New Year!<br /><br />(Funny... whenever bloggers disappear, I never consider it's because they're meeting with too much success. I always envision MIA's in the chow line at a soup kitchen. LOL! I guess I'd better re-think my innate skepticism.) LOL<br /><br />OK... I'll stop now.LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729740027224198169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-50168074965613348802013-01-03T19:16:01.661-05:002013-01-03T19:16:01.661-05:00I always thought Jay was waiting his turn to marry...I always thought Jay was waiting his turn to marry Sharon. I thought he knew that Roman was just a carreer move for Sharon and that it was not permanent. Jay planned on flying in after the divorce like a hawk and swooping up Sharon. If Sharon had Jay sitting on her bed then she was deliberately putting out signals to Jay that her time with Roman was temporary since Roman was mainly interested in himself. Jay was murdered while working patiently to catch Sharon on the rebound.MrPoirothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155552886069024565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-44786944112787849702013-01-03T19:14:28.671-05:002013-01-03T19:14:28.671-05:00Remember, his nephew is working on a documentary f...Remember, his nephew is working on a documentary featuring many people who did know Jay such as Cami, Dominick Dunne, Dennis Hopper and many more. When it's done, I'm sure many of our questions will be answered. I hope so anyway!Venushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510083489728391657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-9088072285135923962013-01-03T18:56:51.835-05:002013-01-03T18:56:51.835-05:00"And an interview with anyone who knew Jay ba..."And an interview with anyone who knew Jay back then would be so interesting." - katie<br /><br />I've spoken to Venus before about this. I can't believe how few people have spoken about Jay. He knew almost everyone in Hollywood, yet so many are silent. I think a biography of him would be fascinating, but everyone he knew/worked with is dying off.CarolMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357698369178272616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-51228022494362027862013-01-03T18:28:07.959-05:002013-01-03T18:28:07.959-05:00I really love this blog and all who are a part of ...I really love this blog and all who are a part of it. Katie is one of my special pals. When I win the Lotto and buy Jay's house, she'll be my first guest (and then the rest of you can come over for a pool party!!)<br /><br />Starship, when you watch the Sharon Tate home movies, watch for the scene here she and Jay are sitting side by side. She keeps putting her ifngers by her mouth and she is definitely wearing her wedding ring.<br /><br />Saint C, thanks for the compliment!<br /><br />Thanks to everyone who enjoyed this thread! <br /><br />I am working on ideas for others.Venushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510083489728391657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-27007566814162238252013-01-03T16:33:50.721-05:002013-01-03T16:33:50.721-05:00Congrats Mary!! Glad to hear your doing well :)Congrats Mary!! Glad to hear your doing well :)Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-36514140216484465942013-01-03T15:49:21.507-05:002013-01-03T15:49:21.507-05:00Katie,
You are better than all the baiters, es...Katie,<br /><br /> You are better than all the baiters, especially the Master Baiters!! Couldn't resist either!!<br /><br /><br /><br />Venus,<br /><br /> Nice post! I've loved this house and the history that swirls around it. The pics are great. <br />. <br />maudes haroldhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08310246530830761390noreply@blogger.com