tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post5063449654809416937..comments2024-03-19T21:34:44.985-04:00Comments on The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger129125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-63034310787793021392022-03-30T03:46:11.209-04:002022-03-30T03:46:11.209-04:00Still hilarious! “Everybody’s read everything int...Still hilarious! “Everybody’s read everything into Charlie Manson’s case that can be read into it. Especially that scum-of-the-earth <b>Booga-loosie,</b> man!”ahcapellahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08757006516120334048noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-57580328624346312962020-01-22T12:22:01.431-05:002020-01-22T12:22:01.431-05:00Manson HIMSELF said he went to Waverly Drive that ...Manson HIMSELF said he went to Waverly Drive that night to see who was in HAROLD TRUE'S HOUSE... not the Labianca's. When he found True's house to be "empty and locked", he then noticed someone in the Labianca's house. He said that "surprised" him because that house had always been VACANT. "I had no idea someone was living there." That's when he and Tex decided to go in there. This is from Charlie's own mouth. PaulHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02965666446497527968noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-43871128974334965262011-09-20T09:45:19.864-04:002011-09-20T09:45:19.864-04:00As to getting people out of cults, you transpose t...As to getting people out of cults, you transpose them to a larger cult, known as, agreed-upon society.<br /><br />Don't you think it is fascinating how many of Charlie's ideas, which were considered dangerously radicalism back then are mainstream now? Care for the environment, for one. And much of his spiel is now repackaged as New Age. <br /><br />I can understand too, why his followers thought he was Christ. Jesus treated women with attention and appreciation too, while having men as his main followers. He too gave off a mixture of gentleness and force. He spoke of living in the moment, leaving your families, appreciating the beauty of nature and trusting to living day-by-day, that God would provide, you can live while just wandering around. Like Charlie, Jesus had friends of all kinds, from 'publicans and sinners' to high-ranking people. And while the Christians would have excised this, I can't imagine that all those women who followed Christ and cared for him just as the Manson girls did Charlie, were doing it without some physical attention. Never under-estimate the power of a man who knows that sex is not about banging away with a big cock for hours. Charlie knew this, I expect Jesus did too. It made Mary Charlie's slave, made Pat Krenwinkel leave her home, car and paycheck. It's funny how this parallels the Bible stories, how Jesus called people and they left their nets, their father, their jobs, instantly.<br /><br />I can see why the Family saw themselves as early christians. There are a lot of parallels. I think Charlie had a lot to say and a lot to teach and it is tragic that it should have turned so bad. I wonder how it may have turned out if the police had treated them more gently and hadn't constantly harassed them, thus setting up the 'us and them' mentality which didnt exist before?fiona1933https://www.blogger.com/profile/00041216158548547908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-61758772044951051822011-09-20T09:32:55.513-04:002011-09-20T09:32:55.513-04:00It's funny Manson doesn't say that True pi...It's funny Manson doesn't say that True picked him up. He says he was given a ride by a truck driver who took him home and was going to have him stay a couple of days till the wife got uptight. He gives the story in detail. Of course he could have just forgotten about True. Since Charlie's life was absolutely intense every minute -I have never heard of anyone packing so much into a 2 year period- he could well have skipped this, whereas it's more likely True would recall him.<br /><br />You just never know. Memory is so fragile.fiona1933https://www.blogger.com/profile/00041216158548547908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-68007911871001199942011-08-31T10:25:57.327-04:002011-08-31T10:25:57.327-04:00Thanks Kimchi! I think Harold, like a lot of othe...Thanks Kimchi! I think Harold, like a lot of other dope users, probably remembers the past through a vague fog. LOL.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-50560706841491763802011-08-30T23:51:27.190-04:002011-08-30T23:51:27.190-04:00Katie said:
"Harold indicates in this interv...Katie said:<br /><br />"Harold indicates in this interview that he knew ALL of them. He doesn't mention that he was afraid of them. Also, it's not clear when the last time he had contact with them was. Harold moved out of that house in late 1968. I'm assuming that he wasn't having contact with the family after that. But I don't know for sure."<br /><br />I have a hunch that Harold knew Phil Kaufman and met Charlie that way...I read that somewhere and will try to source it..<br /><br />I also read that Harold visited Charlie in jail after the murders, I think that was on a report of Charlie's visitors..I'll try and find it too.<br /><br />One interview that Phil did in 1994 said he lived on Waverly with Harold and that's why Charlie went to Waverly that night ..but Sanders never mentioned him as one of the renters...Kimchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16067727501654193744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-70419503193340414492011-08-30T22:05:23.892-04:002011-08-30T22:05:23.892-04:00Hi V717!!!
I hope you know that love ya babe!!! ...Hi V717!!!<br /><br />I hope you know that love ya babe!!! HA HA.<br /><br />>>>V717 said: Hello Katie 8753<br />I agree with you the film really sucks. This film and others about the murders was done in a haste by movie producers who wanted to earn some easy money from these sensationall incidents. They didn´t even bother to get things right.>>><br /><br />You're exactly right. These movie producers have raced around and made movies that have nothing to do with reality. It's more than disgusting....it's like a porno flick...which anybody who has watched one, knows that it's only about the "kaboomb". HA HA.<br /><br />>>Do you belive that Manson and some other in the family drove up to Cielo Drive after the murders? It seemed that someone had moved the bodies around. If it wasn´t Manson then we stand before an even bigger mystery.>><br /><br />I do belive that Manson and some other (Clem) drove to Cielo Drive and caused havoc with the crime scene. He wanted to make sure he wasn't incriminated in any way.<br /><br />>>>beauders have talked about "mind control and psy/op operations. Ackording to author David Mc Gowan he isn´t really quite sure that the murders was done by the Manson family.>>><br /><br />Okay now you're losing me. David McGowan needs to take a big whiff of reality. HA HA. <br /><br />These murders were done by the Manson Family. They admitted it. <br />Pat, Susan, Tex and Horseteeth already admitted it.<br /><br />Detail by detail.<br /><br />These people were brainwashed. Their brains were washed and dried. Ready to be ironed.<br /><br />I don't know how anyone can say otherwise.<br /><br />V717....come back to the fold!!!!<br /><br />"Either youse get it...or you don't...." (Mel Brooks).<br /><br />HA HAkatie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-38378752311782661602011-08-30T20:31:40.600-04:002011-08-30T20:31:40.600-04:00Hello Katie 8753
I agree with you the film really ...Hello Katie 8753<br />I agree with you the film really sucks. This film and others about the murders was done in a haste by movie producers who wanted to earn some easy money from these sensationall incidents. They didn´t even bother to get things right. <br />Do you belive that Manson and some other in the family drove up to Cielo Drive after the murders? It seemed that someone had moved the bodies around. If it wasn´t Manson then we stand before an even bigger mystery.<br />beauders have talked about "mind control and psy/op operations."<br />Ackording to author David Mc Gowan he isn´t really quite sure that the murders was done by the Manson family.v717https://www.blogger.com/profile/16151778818005966430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-47776261585702617502011-08-30T10:17:40.660-04:002011-08-30T10:17:40.660-04:00Hi Bobby!! This phone interview is the first I...Hi Bobby!! This phone interview is the first I've heard about Harold even knowing Charlie since he got out of prison. I thought they hooked up later because of drug connections. <br /><br />I think that when Harold knew the family, he probably didn't consider them dangerous, although he does say they were crazy. Probably because of all the weird stuff Charlie would talk about, and then automaton girls would echo it like a demented loop segment.<br /><br />Harold indicates in this interview that he knew ALL of them. He doesn't mention that he was afraid of them. Also, it's not clear when the last time he had contact with them was. Harold moved out of that house in late 1968. I'm assuming that he wasn't having contact with the family after that. But I don't know for sure.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-38836242530136966952011-08-30T09:37:34.960-04:002011-08-30T09:37:34.960-04:00>>>Beauders said: i really don't thi...>>>Beauders said: i really don't think suzan laberge had anything to do with the murders. her weirdness with tex just seems a crazy person using religion to forgive someone she shouldn't even though her religion tells her she should, what a quandry.>>><br /><br />Hi Beauders.<br /><br />I know it's a stretch to think that Suzanne had anything to do with murder, but I wouldn't put it past her. Money talks!!!<br /><br />If her "born again" status required that she forgive those who had savagely butchered her mother & step father, she could have done that quietly at home. <br /><br />But if she chose to verbalize it, why just include Tex? Certainly she knows that Charlie, Pat & Horseteeth were just as involved as Tex. Maybe they didn't stab as much, but they were all there and contributed to their deaths.<br /><br />That just makes no sense to me.<br /><br />I agree with you that Harold must have partied at other places with the family if most of them hadn't been to his house. I guess he didn't mention it because it didn't come up????katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-84507239926054348272011-08-30T09:32:05.719-04:002011-08-30T09:32:05.719-04:00HA HA HA HA!!! Thanks Bobby. That's too funn...HA HA HA HA!!! Thanks Bobby. That's too funny. That's sooo much like Manson trying to articulate to "sane people".katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-25508698841277815482011-08-30T02:53:42.065-04:002011-08-30T02:53:42.065-04:00i don't know this as a fact but i would harold...i don't know this as a fact but i would harold and friends probably partied with manson and the family at spahn ranch and other places they lived. i would think dennis wilson house would draw these folks to it.<br />i really don't think suzan laberge had anything to do with the murders. her weirdness with tex just seems a crazy person using religion to forgive someone she shouldn't even though her religion tells her she should, what a quandry.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-43803152912736320172011-08-30T02:04:49.132-04:002011-08-30T02:04:49.132-04:00Bob...
I gave you another star on the "wall...Bob... <br /><br />I gave you another star on the "wall of fame", for those "In Living Color" Vids!<br /><br />Seriously... I almost DIED laughing!<br /><br />They even had a parole hearing!<br />AHahahaha<br /><br />"Allow me to expose my colon once again".<br />LOLOLLynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603696815079837528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-19752583443709815542011-08-30T02:01:32.821-04:002011-08-30T02:01:32.821-04:00As the greek philosopher Massengil once dictated, ...As the greek philosopher Massengil once dictated, “lickus my probiscus”… “Undouche Me”!<br /><br />AHahahahaLynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603696815079837528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-71089061183881000882011-08-30T01:18:53.088-04:002011-08-30T01:18:53.088-04:00"Now... if I may retain my liquids here for a..."Now... if I may retain my liquids here for a moment"... LOLOLLynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603696815079837528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-81091528589691480132011-08-29T23:23:06.066-04:002011-08-29T23:23:06.066-04:00Well V717, I'm heading for the last roundup. ...Well V717, I'm heading for the last roundup. I do thank you for the clip. Interesting stuff...for the most part.<br /><br />Thanks St. We'll expound on that tomorrow!<br /><br />See ya'll. Bye.....katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-42864824256371329372011-08-29T23:11:52.321-04:002011-08-29T23:11:52.321-04:00When you walk into the Cielo Drive front door, you...When you walk into the Cielo Drive front door, you enter a foyer, then you turn to the LEFT to get into the living room, not to the RIGHT.<br /><br />All the bedrooms that these people were in were to the LEFT of the front door. This was all backward.<br /><br />If you go to the right, you go into the dining room, then the kitchen. Off that area was the freshly painted nursery. That's the window Tex entered. To the RIGHT of the front door.<br /><br />You'd think that if someone was going to do a movie about this horrific murder, they'd at least do their homework. <br /><br />Sheesh.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-53459773797175105202011-08-29T22:53:09.694-04:002011-08-29T22:53:09.694-04:00V717, Those clips from that cheesy movie suck. Ev...V717, Those clips from that cheesy movie suck. Everything was backward. Plus most everything was wrong.<br /><br />I wish that just one movie producer could get it right. <br /><br />Just one.<br /><br />All the Helter Skelter movies that have been/are being made. What a waste of time! Nobody takes it seriously enough to get it right!katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-18228384288413029682011-08-29T22:38:21.865-04:002011-08-29T22:38:21.865-04:00Hi V717. Interesting clip! Thanks!!!Hi V717. Interesting clip! Thanks!!!katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-55896409154452332682011-08-29T22:36:03.625-04:002011-08-29T22:36:03.625-04:00St., you're giving Tex way too much credit. H...St., you're giving Tex way too much credit. He was a cretin...through and through. Charlie was the brains.<br /><br />Inheritance money? Could be on to something. Has nothing to do with Tex. <br /><br />As Harold said, he was a "mama's boy". And indeed he was. He never really got off that tit.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-84530256166529703802011-08-29T22:15:03.965-04:002011-08-29T22:15:03.965-04:00Here comes HELTER SKELTER.
http://www.youtube.com/...Here comes HELTER SKELTER.<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HVl4XIM28cMv717https://www.blogger.com/profile/16151778818005966430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-8939734893371942592011-08-29T22:13:37.341-04:002011-08-29T22:13:37.341-04:00Tex was involved in both these killings....
Tex c...Tex was involved in both these killings....<br /><br />Tex could know be tied to both...<br /><br />maybe with his own motives outside of Charlie.. ( or as a way to satisfy Charlie)<br /><br />The one thing that always struck- me and that you can read back on as long as I have been posting...<br /><br />and True says it-<br /><br />They went to two places they knew in L.A and that was it...<br /><br />How did he know Tex so well if Tex wasn't at his house...<br /><br />Why was his house one place of two they " knew well"<br /><br />was maybe AC right about this all along???<br /><br />At least in so far as that Charlie didnt exactly come up with the places or the reasons???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-44430297311072417552011-08-29T22:04:36.421-04:002011-08-29T22:04:36.421-04:00Was Charlie starting to hear there were some ways ...Was Charlie starting to hear there were some ways to " inherit " money??<br /><br />Cappy- barker Ranch...<br /><br />Squeaky- Spahn...<br /><br />that would be four...<br /><br />a coincidence???<br /><br />or a dot to be counted and connected??Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-89711547871709040942011-08-29T22:02:07.109-04:002011-08-29T22:02:07.109-04:00Katie said in part:
"inherit her money? Mayb...Katie said in part:<br /><br />"inherit her money? Maybe Charlie got a chunk of it"?<br /><br /><br />Had things worked out the way Charlie wanted it originally...<br /><br />could this have been about Gary???<br /><br />patterns start to repeat when looking for any clue to explain something so unexplainable..<br /><br />but do not want to reach either???Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-7517137667658062422011-08-29T21:32:14.693-04:002011-08-29T21:32:14.693-04:00St. you make a very good point.
True says that on...St. you make a very good point.<br /><br />True says that only Charlie and a couple of girls, plus Linda, knew where he lived.<br /><br />Then he says he knew all of the girls, that he was there when he picked them up.<br /><br />How did he do that? Was he on the black bus?<br /><br />I agree. He gave way too much information. Now I can see why Bugliosi dragged him in. I can see why he wondered if True was involved.<br /><br />I can't imagine that True had anything to do with the murders, but why did he say he knew all the girls? Makes no sense.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.com