tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post4943160378195208780..comments2024-03-19T21:34:44.985-04:00Comments on The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger103125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-87028831223346283172011-12-13T22:29:54.399-05:002011-12-13T22:29:54.399-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-29132375792301339852011-12-13T22:20:36.930-05:002011-12-13T22:20:36.930-05:00This comment has been removed by the author.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-73368406943995527622011-12-04T14:32:30.944-05:002011-12-04T14:32:30.944-05:00Good posts, Fiona. You're right, there's a...Good posts, Fiona. You're right, there's a real Shakespearean tale in there somewhere. I guess the key to a good Manson film would be family & belonging as a theme, rather than the one dimensional boss-eyed loon & bloodthirsty sluts we usually get served up.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-27384223284366812102011-12-04T12:56:47.160-05:002011-12-04T12:56:47.160-05:00for pity's sake, Nimrod, the book of Revelatio...for pity's sake, Nimrod, the book of Revelation refers to Rome. The writer is a puritanically minded Jew who is violently opposed to the decadence and luxury of Rome, no doubt because he couldn't get a good share of it. Every single one of these prophecies and anathemas has been traced to the existing christian groups. Mostly, the guy is hurling abuse at the Emperor or at other prophets or other Christians, as Christians have done since the very first apostles, as you can read in Acts.<br />Even the infamous 666 is a numerological reference to Nero. <br />When the New Testament was compiled, the authorities were very dubious about including Revelation. 2 reasons, one, it was written by someone very uneducated, who was really just sounding off. Two, they were afraid that it was just the sort of mystical nonsense that people would start applying meanings to. 7 angels, 10 plagues, whatever, people would fit these numbers to something, and what do you know, it's the end of the world as we know it.<br /><br />Looks like those church elders were onto something, hmm? Incidentally, I thought 'Nimrod" meant "dickhead" as in: " Why would you think a raving madman's 200 year old rantings were specific and verifiable prophecy, you nimrod?"fiona1933https://www.blogger.com/profile/00041216158548547908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-89743205808713541422011-12-04T12:40:24.848-05:002011-12-04T12:40:24.848-05:00Lurch, I have written this before. why can't a...Lurch, I have written this before. why can't a good movie be made? because an audience must have a main character to empathise with, no matter how evil his deeds. Think of Macbeth. he does dreadful things, murders an old man in his bed, murders the little children of Macduff, but we don't hate him. We suffer with him, we go through his agony, his struggle not to do evil, to defeat his ambition, his failure, his ruin. we never think, Macbeth, what a bastard. This is how a story works.<br />But the Manson story, as it is known to the public, has no such character. Without all the mythology, well, maybe Charlie could have been a Macbeth figure. Maybe it could have been Susan: she is the one with the fatal flaw, her insecurity. <br />But unfortunately, only a truly brilliant film-maker could take the demonized Sadie and make her into a tragic hero. <br />Also, without the publicity, the story wouldn't be famous enough to warrant filming. So it is a catch 22: the very things that make it dramatic, all the 'evil' and the 'beautiful people' and the rest, make it unfilmable. No sympathetic central character.<br />That's why all these films have failed. It was tried to do it with no such character, cf, the 1977 Helter-Skelter. The remake cast Linda in this role, but she was so passive, she just drifted through the film. The Manson Family was enjoyable, but again it wasn't a movie, it was a whole new kind of genre: a pseudo-documentary. ( I really liked that one, must say).<br /><br />No, it has to be Sadie, tragic hero, fatal flaw. I hoped Susanna Lo was doing this. Doesn't look like it. It may be impossible. although Macbeth is a great play to read, it isnt to watch. all the real action is in Macbeth's head. Can Sadie soliloquize to the film audience? Would it work? I doubt it. <br /><br />Where is Shakespeare when you need him? I know who could do this. Ricky Gervais and Stephen Merchant. The Office, UK Office I mean, is Shakespeare good.fiona1933https://www.blogger.com/profile/00041216158548547908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-31499878048635459262011-12-04T12:18:41.647-05:002011-12-04T12:18:41.647-05:00I will be sorry if it is really so dreadful, becau...I will be sorry if it is really so dreadful, because I thought Susanna Lo was really getting to the heart of the matter. I have often thought if I myself had been a teenager then, in the same place and time, how easily I could have gone for it all, the sense of belonging, the love, the feeling of sticking to society, etc.<br />I was glad to see someone not demonising the girls, showing how it could happen to so many. They were not evil, not monsters. <br /><br />But if the film really hasn't stuck with the facts, then what was the point. And the Hinman clip: it just looks again as if Susan is enjoying the murder and having fun, when she testified in her book how she and Mary were in the kitchen, terrified, as Bobby stabbed Gary. But here, yet again, she is given this same fuck-you body language, hey look how I can strut like a man stuff, same as Helter-Skelter, both movies, and the Manson Family movie. <br /><br />Why not at least make an attempt to capture the real Susan? Susan was incredibly insecure. She was always trying for attention by using her body. In those shots of her in the orange minidress, when the cops display her to the press, as she walks away, it's clear she has no knickers, and she wiggles her arse like she's in a strip-club. <br /><br />Arraigned for murder, but she wants everyone to notice her bottom. Instead, she's portrayed like Karla Faye Tucker, striding around like a man, killing people and having an orgasm at the same time. Why not have the real girl? Much more shocking. <br /><br />Bobby was the one strutting around after killing Hinman: "just like he got him a cherry" according to Danny DeCarlo.<br /><br />Sigh...I will have to write my own movie. Anyone like to help?fiona1933https://www.blogger.com/profile/00041216158548547908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-362162413911377672011-12-03T21:02:36.778-05:002011-12-03T21:02:36.778-05:00Nimrod.
I suggest that you go to David Mc Gowan´s ...Nimrod.<br />I suggest that you go to David Mc Gowan´s page, "Center for an informed America" and read: Inside The LC: The strange but mostly true story of Laurel Canyon and the Birth of the Hippie Generation.<br />There are hidden thing,you know.v717https://www.blogger.com/profile/16151778818005966430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-75559139900399160322011-12-03T16:59:26.249-05:002011-12-03T16:59:26.249-05:00v717 said...
>>>>Nimrod.
I don´t thin...v717 said...<br /><br />>>>>Nimrod.<br />I don´t think you are crazy, but you are blowing my mind.<br />Do you have the whole text of "The Rising Forth?"<<<<<br /><br />I was actually looking for this myself couldn't find anything about this text other than what we already know.<br /><br />I have a personal belief that the title of this infamous curse that Anton LaVey set forth on the night of August 8, 1969 refers to the "Emergence of a Fourth Reich" here in America.<br /><br />If you look at who was in attendeance, and the role the we already know that they played in history, it sure looks to me as if that's what the curse was all about.<br /><br />The rise of a new Satanic Tyranny based on the model set in place by Nazi Germany.<br /><br />The Bush Administration hired many of the East German Stazi members along with ex NKVD operatives from the former Soviet Union in an attempt to learn about how to subjugate or control large populations of people. Even Alex Jones has confirmed this.<br /><br />The FEMA Camps exist and they were built to house large numbers of people. I also believe that many of these camps are death camps or extermination zones.<br /><br />This Satanic New World Order is all about Population Reduction and they're the using the "Black Man" to bring it all down just as Charles Manson had once foretold of.<br /><br />So we go from August 8, 1969 to the current day where Anton LaVey placed his infamous curse on the hippie movement and the Bush boys have done their part to bring about "The Rising Forth or 4th Reich" and now its up to the Black Man (Barak Obama) to fulfill his destiny in Revelation 9 as the 6th Angel of Revelations.<br /><br />And you wonder why Charles Manson is where he is today and why the others are where they are today?<br /><br />Behold, the 5th Angel of Revelations who foretold of the "Black Man Rising" and the destruction that will follow.<br /><br />I kid you not. This is real and we're living in it and may die knowing that our suspicions were right all along.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-36829528464283924582011-12-03T16:38:53.166-05:002011-12-03T16:38:53.166-05:00V717
This link contains the most damning material...V717<br /><br />This link contains the most damning material of all:<br /><br />http://www.williamhkennedy.com/arti<br />cles/satanism.html<br /><br />Check out the following sections within this link:<br /><br />The Bush Family are Nazi Satanists<br /><br />Dossier Pedophilie - Links members of the Bilderberg Group to Pedophilia and Satanism.<br /><br />Ronald Reagan and Richard Nixon photographed at Bohemian Grove. You'll also see that George Bush and karl Rove are also listed as members.<br /><br />Also check out the section on Boyd Rice - The successor to Anton Lavey and his Church of Satan. Notice that Boyd Rice is a stone hearted National Socialist.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-55690335765340515242011-12-03T16:22:56.230-05:002011-12-03T16:22:56.230-05:00The Rise and Fall of the 5th Angel of Revelations ...The Rise and Fall of the 5th Angel of Revelations (Charles Manson)<br /><br /><br />1 - And the fifth angel sounded, and I saw a star fall from heaven unto the earth: and to him was given the key of the bottomless pit. <br />2 - And he opened the bottomless pit; and there arose a smoke out of the pit, as the smoke of a great furnace; and the sun and the air were darkened by reason of the smoke of the pit. <br />3 - And there came out of the smoke locusts upon the earth: and unto them was given power, as the scorpions of the earth have power. <br />4 - And it was commanded them that they should not hurt the grass of the earth, neither any green thing, neither any tree; but only those men which have not the seal of God in their foreheads. <br />5 - And to them it was given that they should not kill them, but that they should be tormented five months: and their torment [was] as the torment of a scorpion, when he striketh a man. <br />6 - And in those days shall men seek death, and shall not find it; and shall desire to die, and death shall flee from them. <br />7 - And the shapes of the locusts [were] like unto horses prepared unto battle; and on their heads [were] as it were crowns like gold, and their faces [were] as the faces of men. <br />8 - And they had hair as the hair of women, and their teeth were as [the teeth] of lions. <br />9 - And they had breastplates, as it were breastplates of iron; and the sound of their wings [was] as the sound of chariots of many horses running to battle. <br />10 - And they had tails like unto scorpions, and there were stings in their tails: and their power [was] to hurt men five months. <br />11 - And they had a king over them, [which is] the angel of the bottomless pit, whose name in the Hebrew tongue [is] Abaddon, but in the Greek tongue hath [his] name Apollyon. <br /><br />12 - One woe is past (HINMAN); [and], behold, there come two woes more hereafter (Tate / LaBianca). <br /><br /><br />The end of the Reign of the 5th Angel. (Charles Manson)<br /><br />His warning of the Black Man Rising appears to have come in the form of the 6th Angel of Revelations (Barak Hussein Obama) who will destroy the United States, and perhaps most of the world, in a 3rd World War.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-67604384447434593412011-12-03T16:17:39.442-05:002011-12-03T16:17:39.442-05:00V717
If you understand anything of what america i...V717<br /><br />If you understand anything of what america is resembling today, it has become a Corporate Fascist State that has been modeled on Nazi Germany.<br /><br />The various FEMA camps that have been built all across the United States are enhanced versions of the German model that was common during WWII.<br /><br />Prescott Bush, the Father of George Herbert Walker Bush and the Grandfather of George W. Bush had business dealings with the Nazi's in his tenure with a Wall Street Investing Banking firm when he was a partner.<br /><br />The Bush Family, going back to the the very moment when Anton LaVey placed his infamous curse on the hippie movement became the instrument of America's destruction.<br /><br />The Satanic backgrounds of these individuals have enabled them to become the disciples that will have ushered in the kingdom of the Antichrist that we're seeing unfold right before our eyes in today's world.<br /><br />Revelation 9 - The Reign of the 6th Angel (Barak Obama - The Black Man who had risen)<br /><br />We are rapidly approaching what you see here. It may be days away or maybe weeks.<br /><br />13 - And the sixth angel sounded, and I heard a voice from the four horns of the golden altar which is before God, <br />14 - Saying to the sixth angel which had the trumpet, Loose the four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates. <br />15 - And the four angels were loosed, which were prepared for an hour, and a day, and a month, and a year, for to slay the third part of men. <br />16 - And the number of the army of the horsemen [were] two hundred thousand thousand: and I heard the number of them. <br />17 - And thus I saw the horses in the vision, and them that sat on them, having breastplates of fire, and of jacinth, and brimstone: and the heads of the horses [were] as the heads of lions; and out of their mouths issued fire and smoke and brimstone. <br />18 - By these three was the third part of men killed, by the fire, and by the smoke, and by the brimstone, which issued out of their mouths. <br />19 - For their power is in their mouth, and in their tails: for their tails [were] like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they do hurt. <br />20 - And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk: <br />21 - Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-50382047110635799222011-12-03T15:57:37.897-05:002011-12-03T15:57:37.897-05:00V717
The point that I'm trying to hit on here...V717<br /><br />The point that I'm trying to hit on here is that the Bush Family, who was in attendence with Anton LaVey when he placed his infamous curse on the hippie movement, are the sole architcts for the emergence of a "New World Order" which is nothing more than a kingdom for the Antichrist to reign from and to enslave and subjugate humanity.<br /><br />The name of the game here is "SATAN" and here is a link to another video that will show you just how demonically clever these people are.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?<br />v=nfkRoFmhUjcAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-79062886013837440032011-12-03T15:53:25.135-05:002011-12-03T15:53:25.135-05:00V717
Here's another interesting link that goe...V717<br /><br />Here's another interesting link that goes into the dark side of the 60's and it also mentions how the Rolling Stones were involved with Lucifer Rising.<br /><br />The Satanic Forces which began to germinate back in the late 60's have festered to become the New Age Religon of a Satanic New World Order in our time.<br /><br />http://www.phinnweb.org/livingroom/<br />rosemary/index2.htmlAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-48706257174320701912011-12-03T09:17:02.555-05:002011-12-03T09:17:02.555-05:00Beauders & Cease: Thanks for your input.
It ...Beauders & Cease: Thanks for your input.<br /><br />It might be that Polanski & Beatty just didn't want a film being done that soon after the murders which might be trashing people they cared about. <br /><br />Beauders, I don't know about those alleged porno films. I'm still scratching my head over that one.<br /><br />Cease, Beatty's connection to Sebring due to the film Shampoo could have something to do with it. He must have liked the guy if he wanted to do a film based on his occupation.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-86859690688920120982011-12-03T08:26:39.326-05:002011-12-03T08:26:39.326-05:00Nimrod.
I don´t think you are crazy, but you are b...Nimrod.<br />I don´t think you are crazy, but you are blowing my mind.<br />Do you have the whole text of "The Rising Forth?"v717https://www.blogger.com/profile/16151778818005966430noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-8241835412388171242011-12-03T07:44:11.943-05:002011-12-03T07:44:11.943-05:00beauders said...
"shampoo" came out in 1...beauders said...<i><br />"shampoo" came out in 1975, long after beatty and polanski burned the copies of the films.</i><br /><br />Takes years from original idea to screen, as you know. Beatty had the original idea for it in 67 apparently, so it was no doubt being worked up into a story & script over the applicable years. <br /><br />Not that I'm saying "Shampoo" was definitely his reason. More likely Beatty was helping his pal.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-24049722367316883332011-12-03T06:31:56.922-05:002011-12-03T06:31:56.922-05:00If Charlie didn't find it- it ain't there....If Charlie didn't find it- it ain't there.MrPoirothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155552886069024565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-87529608063315128112011-12-03T04:13:16.832-05:002011-12-03T04:13:16.832-05:00Beauders,
Another article of interest:
http://ww...Beauders,<br /><br />Another article of interest:<br /><br />http://www.illuminati-<br />news.com/bushes-human-<br />sacrifices.htm<br /><br />Bushes Human Sacrifices at the Kimball-Cherokee Castle<br />- Affidavit of Rev. Christian Jess A. LaVey, son of Anton LaVey, Founder of Church of Satan - <br />by Stew Webb, Aug 1, 2005Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-53571447019175996372011-12-03T04:09:37.740-05:002011-12-03T04:09:37.740-05:00Beauders,
Here is the link to the article that ta...Beauders,<br /><br />Here is the link to the article that talks about Anton LaVey and the Bush Family Members at the ceremony on the night of August 8, 1969.<br /><br />http://www.illuminati-news.com/<br />120806c.htm<br /><br />It reads:<br /><br />"In the fateful night of 8 August 1969,a black-clad group gathered in a candle-it chamber to launch this venomous curse upon the hippie movement: 'Beware you psychedelic vermin! your smug pomposity with its thin disguise of tolerance will serve you no longer! We Know your mark and recognize it well. We talk the night as the villains no longer! Our steeds await and their eyes are ablaze with the fires of Hell'.<br /><br />The Ceremony ,entitled the 'The Rising Forth' was led by Anton LaVey, High Priest of the Church of Satan and George H. Bush with the participation of young George W. Bush."Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-80905240085989246112011-12-03T04:04:20.992-05:002011-12-03T04:04:20.992-05:00Skynyrd,
If you look at this video segment from 1...Skynyrd,<br /><br />If you look at this video segment from 1:15 - 2:23, you'll hear Helter Skelter being described and you'll also hear the mention of the "City under the earth" along with Manson talking about starting a "New Tribe".<br /><br />Keep in mind that this is from the Frank Howard movie, which was the very first Manson Family movie, which was released at the time of the trials but was filmed when many of the facts of the case were not yet known.<br /><br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sz3<br />Tml0dM0Y<br /><br />What i've noticed is that, with every NEW Manson Family movie that comes along, we seem to get further and further away from the Truth as opposed to getting closer to it.<br /><br />This too i believe is deliberately done.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-50431331163571763922011-12-03T03:41:29.142-05:002011-12-03T03:41:29.142-05:00"shampoo" came out in 1975, long after b..."shampoo" came out in 1975, long after beatty and polanski burned the copies of the films.<br />also nimrod i've heard these theories before but never heard the bush' family was involved with lavey could you give me a source i would like to look it up. one family the bush' were associated with was the hinkley's, they were neighbors and involved in business together. remember john hinkley tried to assassinate ronald reagan this is the same family. it i rumoured reagan's cabinet members stood around and tried to figure out if they should let him live or not in the hospital before reagan was wheeled into surgery.<br />also katie remember i have written an encyclopedia on everything to do with manson and the family.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-70109169385755623912011-12-03T03:02:56.597-05:002011-12-03T03:02:56.597-05:00katie8753 said...
Lynyrd, why would Warren Beatty ...katie8753 said...<i><br />Lynyrd, why would Warren Beatty care about the movie?</i><br /><br />Maybe cos Beatty was doing the movie "Shampoo", based directly on Sebring; hairdresser to the stars. That's all i can think of.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-54121820395044504162011-12-03T01:04:04.694-05:002011-12-03T01:04:04.694-05:00V717
I have never once heard any interviewer brin...V717<br /><br />I have never once heard any interviewer bring up the subject of what Charles Manson and his group were looking for while they were out in Death Valley; not even from Geraldo.<br /><br />When people here about the bottomless pit and the underground city and how they planned on staying there to escape helter skelter, people turn their heads in disbelief as if they're listening to complete nonsense. Nobody even wants to get into it but yet it's the most critical piece of this whole saga because this was how they planned on riding out Helter Skelter and they believed it.<br /><br />I've heard Steven Kay, in his parole commentary, talk about how Manson had rented scuba equipment because he knew that the entrance to this underground city was in a cave that had a deep underground lake.<br /><br />Steven Kay also mentioned something about Manson getting golden rope that he was going to lower himself down into the pit with.<br /><br />So when you listen to Steven Kay and Paul Watkins, you have to ask yourself why nobody has ever spoken to Manson on an interview and said,<br /><br />"Charlie, tell me about what you were looking for out in Death Valley and How you planned on leading this new race of people back to the world post Helter Skelter. How were you going to accomplish that?"<br /><br />I've never hear any interviwer bring this subject up at all when its such a definitive part of their survival plan.<br /><br />Why is that?<br /><br />Who is it that didn't want this subject talked about and perhaps still doesn't?<br /><br />Why was the death penalty in the state of california overtuned when it was? Was it luck? or perhaps was it payback for a deal made?<br /><br />Not even Geraldo would touch this one.<br /><br />Makes you wonder, doesn't it?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-52337910467504300792011-12-03T00:45:09.069-05:002011-12-03T00:45:09.069-05:00V717,
I've mentioned this before and the peop...V717,<br /><br />I've mentioned this before and the people here think i'm crazy, but the search for this underground city also cuts into an area that the US Govt doesn't want anyone playing around with.<br /><br />If you're going to take a group of people and hide in the desert in a deep underground city for 50 years or so and plan to emerge as a new tribe of 144,000 that will inherit a post apocolyptic world, how would one accomplish that?<br /><br />Perhaps with a little help from the occupants of that underground city?<br /><br />What i find interesting is how Vincent Bugliosi used this fabled tale as a way to discredit Manson and his group even though they were seriously looking for this place while death valley.<br /><br />Nobody stops to actually analyze how that's possible to achieve what Paul Watkins had laid out for Bugliosi, but yet nobody ever talks about the reality of what they were searching for.<br /><br />Charles Manson, the Strange in a Strange Land.<br /><br />I'm sure that the then Governor of the State of California, Ronald Reagan, was probably very well aware of what could be found out there if one looked hard enough. His speech to the United Nations on extraterrestials was damning proof that he knew of something that was fobidden to be spoken of.<br /><br />Phil Schneider spoke of it and was murdered for what he let leak out.<br /><br />Look at people in attendence in 1969 during Anton LaYveys ceremony where he placed a curse on the hippie movement; George Herbert Walker Bush and his son George W Bush. Both Satanists. Both men would go on to be future US Presidents.<br /><br />Governor Ronald Wilson Reagan was serving the people of the state of California - another Satanist and future US President.<br /><br />What was a taboo subject back in those days is only now just being pushed into the light on the American people.<br /><br />Katie Perry singing about ET's and television programs from the 80's like "V" which shows reptilian like aliens in human form.<br /><br />What this shows us is that these beings where here long before we were and that we are not who we think we are.<br /><br />It may very well be that mankind is nothing more than a genetically modified hybrid creation of another race.<br /><br />The concept of creating a new race through bio engineering wasn't the theme back in 1969 but it was perhaps the answer for showing how one could emerge into the bottomless pit and return as a new race to inherit a new post apocylptic world.<br /><br />Sure, it sounds crazy, but it isn't if you understand science or an appreciation of the works of Robert Heinlein.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-44758356871275545592011-12-03T00:22:12.076-05:002011-12-03T00:22:12.076-05:00v717 said...
>>>Nimrod:
Are you saying ...v717 said...<br /><br />>>>Nimrod: <br />Are you saying that the grays are coming?<<<<br /><br />It's alot deeper than that.<br /><br />It's been said that this planet has been occupied by extraterrestrials going back throughout recorded history.<br /><br />In the American Soutwest, and in Central America with the Aztecs peoples, there are depictions of alien figures along with hyrogliphs on the ground that can only be seen from high altitudes.<br /><br />These exist and nobody can deny that they exist.<br /><br />Phil Schneider said, in one of his interviews, that the "Grays" in particular have had deep underground bases here in America for more than hundreds of years and there are all kinds of stories about US Cavalrymen coming across some kind of cave that they claim where they claim strange beings had been seen.<br /><br />There are theories that claim that man is a genetically modified hybrid creation that another race of beings had brought forth to serve their needs.<br /><br />The book called "Death Valley Men" talks about a group of miners who had stumbled across one of these underground cities somewhere near the border of death valley in Nevada.<br /><br />Charles Manson was looking for just such a city during his excursion with some of his group members where they believed they would stay and emerge as a new tribe of 144,000 that would inherit a post apocolyptic world.<br /><br />Paul Watkins was certainly onboard with this as he was the one who laid this out for Vincent Bugliosi and this "City Under The Earth" was also mentioned in the Frank Howard Movie, "The Helter Skelter Murders".<br /><br />Vincent Bugliosi certainly bought into what Charles Manson and his group was looking for and tried to use it to portray Manson as a deranged individual but any mention of this city and what they were looking for became a taboo subject.<br /><br />None of the other Manson films even mention this city nor does it come up when the raids at barker ranch are talked about.<br /><br />Charlie had some of the girls looking in caves and and actually doing searches for the entrance to this city which he believed was a cave where a large subterranian lake was.<br /><br />Thanks to the video footage from the discovery channel, we know that there is a large aqua system at a place called the Devils Hole which is one of the largest freshwater aquasystems in the world spanning some 40,000 square miles.<br /><br />It was also stated that divers dove down to a depth of 400 feet and didn't see a bottom.<br /><br />So there's definitive proof of what Charles Manson was looking for in Death Valley actually existed.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com