tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post405353177717275370..comments2024-03-19T21:34:44.985-04:00Comments on The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog: The Church where Jay Sebring's Funeral was HeldUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger171125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-71877825521900698972021-11-01T19:06:10.220-04:002021-11-01T19:06:10.220-04:00Extremely Random, Robert... I don't understan...Extremely Random, Robert... I don't understand this post, but because an alert went into my email box, I wound up watching the funeral footage again. I made a list of new time stamps of everyone I recognised, and of course AOL ate the email! <br /><br />If anyone is interested let me know and I'll re do it. <br /><br />Sharmagne Leland-St. John-Sylberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02704790410534339481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-84670226758806372512021-11-01T04:58:03.411-04:002021-11-01T04:58:03.411-04:00Fred may have had Big Sis at Parkville, MD or in G...Fred may have had Big Sis at Parkville, MD or in Granada st off of Washington Blvd, or the apartment house make a right at the Italian restaurant with no Italian owners or workers on Washington Blvd not too far from Sexton Street or Granada(SP?) a few streets from Sexton We are not doing this; so dont persecute us more. Make a right before the underpass of the bridge and go up this little street pass the sherman William Paint store, pass the small houses and then make a left back in there is an older apartment house where K might be. IF you go back to the street with the little house development and go right until the intersection and then go left, you may be at another place, called Westmoreland, something like that, written on a big brick building on the left. He was hold people there and I thought I heard that Jill was the ere from Joe's dearests. I think the children are okay, but someone should be searching for them; jay pays the fbi at Baltimore or he use to. I am scared he is in my home upstairs now; he sneaks in and he seeks out Robert into places he not allowed to tell me. They hurt him, sometimes rape him. Dorothy Lanasahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04374396269242335473noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-70897479947909193962016-09-02T07:15:03.135-04:002016-09-02T07:15:03.135-04:00PS Warren Beatty is next to Neile and I think I re...PS Warren Beatty is next to Neile and I think I recognise Hank Fonda. Warren and Mr. Hatami are very prominent in the video of Sharon's funeral.Sharmagne Leland-St. John-Sylberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02704790410534339481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-4957220992027504952016-09-02T06:17:47.052-04:002016-09-02T06:17:47.052-04:00I came out of the church a few seconds behind Stev...I came out of the church a few seconds behind Steve and Neile. I'm at 1: 32:01 (blonde hair, green blouse, plaid Black Watch mini skirt. Close up at 1:32:06:03) I went to Sharon's funeral with Harry Falk Jr. and since he didn't know Jay Alex Cord offered to escort me to Jay's funeral. Alex was a frequent guest in our home. Alex is on my right. It was Harry who called to tell me he heard on the TV at the Beverly Hills Sports Club that Jay and Sharon had been murdered. He actually told his brother Tommy and asked Tommy to break the news to me so I wouldn't hear it from strangers..<br /><br />I lived with Jay in the Harlow house on Easton Drive (actually the entrance was off Rimmel not Easton) I moved out shortly before the murders, because we were burgled while Jay was in Vegas cutting Frank's hair. Jay was away frequently cutting hair and he was fearful to have me living alone when he was out f town, so it was decided I'd take a house in the flats and only stay at Easton when Jay was there with me. I came home one day to find our belongings spread up and down the stairway to the carport. I rang Jay in Vegas and he said he'd call a friend to come help me put things back. about 20 minutes alter Steve McQueen showed up and stayed with me until Jay came home.<br /><br />In the early 70s I did a photo shoot with Cami. It was for Bigelow Carpets shot by Jason Haley. Cami did the kitchen and I did the living room and bedroom shots. I remember shortly after Jay and I began living together Cami was voted Deb Star of the Year and we stayed home to watch her on TV. Jay still had loving feelings for her. He was like that with women whom he had once loved. By the way Cami's high school friend Carrie White sat next to me on the plane on the way to London for Sharon and Roman's wedding. <br /><br />I think it is David Astor to Alex's right and just behind me at 1:32:09is Simone Hessera. I want to say its Sheila Wells and Freddy Bier at 1: 32:20:28 and just before that possibly Sid Kaiser with a walking cane. John and Michelle Philips 1:32:32:03 Mr. Hatami at1:33:15:03 Hatami was photographing a book to be called the Most Beautiful Women in the World. He had shot Sharon extensively and had just shot Jackie Bissett I believe the day of the murders.Sharmagne Leland-St. John-Sylberthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02704790410534339481noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-5650642131832258232014-06-11T20:58:06.004-04:002014-06-11T20:58:06.004-04:00sunset77 said...
I noticed a few comments abo...sunset77 said...<br /><br /> I noticed a few comments about the "Greaseman". Without going into a long drawn out comment, I listened to him for probably 10 years nearly every single morning at the places where I worked. I still have many, if not most, of his "bits" nearly memorized.<br /><br /> Of course my favorite was "Lets go to West Virgina!!!!".<br />---------------------------------<br />The Greas Man..... I used to listen to him on DC101 when I lived in Montgomery County, MD back in the early 80s. If I remember correctly he's the guy that replaced Howard Stern on DC101 Radio. <br />I used to crack up when he used to sing his "Tuna Fish" song.....Doc Sierrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15092659205764422809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-38480157994440595292013-07-09T18:36:29.592-04:002013-07-09T18:36:29.592-04:00Interesting. This is also where Jean Harlow's ...Interesting. This is also where Jean Harlow's service was held.<br />Lovely church. I think Reagan was married here as well.MissLadyMohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03055858677305026391noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-21052431651386192152013-07-02T09:18:54.803-04:002013-07-02T09:18:54.803-04:00I noticed a few comments about the "Greaseman...I noticed a few comments about the "Greaseman". Without going into a long drawn out comment, I listened to him for probably 10 years nearly every single morning at the places where I worked. I still have many, if not most, of his "bits" nearly memorized. <br /><br />Of course my favorite was "Lets go to <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EO4cTTpsCaI" rel="nofollow">West Virgina!!!!</a>".<br /><br />Guulllk-Guulllk-Gulllllgkk-Gulllgk!sunset77https://www.blogger.com/profile/04041729222425015567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-85265533463404965082013-07-02T00:48:08.775-04:002013-07-02T00:48:08.775-04:00Helter Skelter was the violent ideology that Manso...Helter Skelter was the violent ideology that Manson became obsessed with and used to program the Family from hippiedom into group insanity which enabled him to drive them off a cliff into depravity and mass murder.<br /><br />Without National Socialism you have no WWII. Without Helter Skelter you have no TLB murders.MrPoirothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155552886069024565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-42978650157098580632013-07-01T21:26:00.284-04:002013-07-01T21:26:00.284-04:00Hi Leary,
I couldn't agree with you more...Hi Leary, <br /> I couldn't agree with you more about the Helter Skelter motive. I think that the most likely scenario is that Manson used Helter Skelter to keep his minions paranoid and in need of his protection and leadership. I don't believe for a moment that he really believed chocolate fountains, Armageddon caused by a race war, and Chucky coming out on top. Furthermore I believe that the reason he and his followers went out on searches for the hole in Death Valley was to keep them occupied and to keep the paranoia up. Using his psychopathic skills of manipulation he was able to make them believe the whole Helter Skelter BS. I also wondered if Charlie knew from early on in the indoctrination of these people that he would someday need them to perform hits for a 3rd party and used all of his skills to groom them for such without knowing for sure if there was going to be hits ordered. You know, keeping them on ice so to speak.......Doc Sierrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15092659205764422809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-12287500131038427712013-07-01T21:13:22.683-04:002013-07-01T21:13:22.683-04:00wait, what guest Johnny? I do like the Brian Davis...wait, what guest Johnny? I do like the Brian Davis show, I thought his interview with Stephanie Schram was excellent.<br />And I totally agree that both Charlie and Tex could have been operating on a totally different level and used the girls as the zombies they were.<br />My point was what you noted - only that Helter Skelter cannot be totally dismissed as motive because IT WAS the motive for at least two of the participants.<br />I am just always amazed at the almost palpable hatred spewed by SOME of the anti-HS folk at anyone who even remotely supports HS.<br />I just don't get it.leary7https://www.blogger.com/profile/16573687537798248297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-37330178367732897582013-07-01T18:25:35.771-04:002013-07-01T18:25:35.771-04:00Leary7
I agree with you about the girls doing it o...Leary7<br />I agree with you about the girls doing it on behalf of Helter Skelter or as Krenwinkle terms it, 'Healter Skelter.' <br /><br />But that doesn't do a thing to dissuade many that other motives were in play for the main players. That they got the girls in it for a different reason probably goes to them wanting to keep the real reason for the murders on a need to know basis. They didn't need to know, so Charlie didn't tell em. Charlie never appeared to have a lot of respect for the girls around the ranch, that he gave them a line and made 'em dance to it is consistent with what we do know about Manson.<br />BTW, I hope you heard the Brian Davis Show. For anyone who wanted to understand the goings on at the ranch, from the cowboy point of view, this guest was an amazing fount of information.johnnyseattlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10315694616360383693noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-43252533501201447792013-07-01T15:36:17.876-04:002013-07-01T15:36:17.876-04:00I hope I don't get detention for going off-top...I hope I don't get detention for going off-topic, but have any of you guys read the transcript of LVH's parole hearing over on Cielodrive?<br /><br />Two takeaways for me....the first was incredible sadness. I honestly believe both Leslie and Pat are quality human beings now, they have done amazing work, HARD DAMN WORK, rebuilding their character over the past forty years.<br />But they will never taste freedom. And maybe they shouldn't, I truthfully don't know. But it is a very sad situation.<br /><br />The other thing I took away was how convincing Leslie was when she talked about Helter Skelter and her need/desire to "cross the line" and join Pat as a killer for the cause.<br />Nobody but NOOOOOBODY can say with any certainty what Manson's motive for TLB was. And who's to say what hidden agenda or demons were driving Tex.<br />But it is ABSOLUTELY 100% CERTAINTY that both Pat and Leslie raised their knives for Helter Skelter. Read Leslie talking about it 43 years later. It's a fact, Jack.<br /><br />So when the Col and the other zealous anti-HS crusaders charge forth with their pitchforks of disdain and insults, I just have to laugh.<br />Helter Skelter was not a communist fairy tale or some nefarious plot by The Bug to make millions. It was THE REASON at least two of the TLB participants decided murder was okay, even necessary.<br />Who knows with Manson. I've never been comfortable with HS as his sole or primary motive for ordering TLB. I've always been more of a "dirty hands" proponent.<br />But Helter Skelter, as the primary motive for both Leslie and Pat, is simply beyond question.leary7https://www.blogger.com/profile/16573687537798248297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-14991935062827572782013-07-01T00:50:35.260-04:002013-07-01T00:50:35.260-04:00You're right, Doc. Manson always seemed to ha...You're right, Doc. Manson always seemed to have a different 'do according to the times.CarolMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357698369178272616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-30003299269877737432013-06-30T23:15:22.262-04:002013-06-30T23:15:22.262-04:00One thing I noticed is that Charlie seemed to stay...One thing I noticed is that Charlie seemed to stay on top of mens's hairstyles that were in fashion. I remember seeing him in an interview in the late 80s or early 90s and he had a mullet. He looked like he was one of those trailer park guys on the show Cops.Doc Sierrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15092659205764422809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-73770170116180416492013-06-30T22:07:29.345-04:002013-06-30T22:07:29.345-04:00Doc, you're right - the documentary was pretty...Doc, you're right - the documentary was pretty good. I'd never seen it before. Funny seeing what Bill Kurtis looked like in 1970! It was more graphic than I thought it would be - seeing the knife wounds on Leno's body was horrible.CarolMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357698369178272616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-40842420331981014472013-06-30T19:21:52.000-04:002013-06-30T19:21:52.000-04:00Hi Carol,
it came out in 2010. It's pretty...Hi Carol, <br /> it came out in 2010. It's pretty good. I recorded it on my DVR a few months ago.Doc Sierrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15092659205764422809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-11176826567619420752013-06-30T18:59:58.952-04:002013-06-30T18:59:58.952-04:00Thanks, Doc. Do you know if the show is a re-run?...Thanks, Doc. Do you know if the show is a re-run?CarolMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357698369178272616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-59994592981188906192013-06-30T18:42:25.420-04:002013-06-30T18:42:25.420-04:00Hi Brian,
Thanks for clearing that up. I lived ...Hi Brian,<br /> Thanks for clearing that up. I lived on Bel Pre Rd in Silver Spring. Us 19 year old servicemen used to spend a lot of time at Manny's on Rockville Pike and all along M St in Georgetown. We used to party and check out the live bands at the crazy horse and try to pick up women at the Pel Mel. Man, I miss that place. I miss buying a bag of burgers at Little Tavern.....BUY 'EM BY THE BAG!Doc Sierrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15092659205764422809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-18344237127008544402013-06-30T18:25:52.690-04:002013-06-30T18:25:52.690-04:00Doc Sierra said...
"Ol' Howard Stern. Wh...Doc Sierra said... <br /><i>"Ol' Howard Stern. When I was stationed in Bethesda, MD, a Washington DC suburb, I used to listen to Stern. I remember when he talked smack about the DC 101 station management and got fired." <br /> June 30, 2013 at 12:39 PM,</i><br /><br />I was born and raised in DC until my late teens and I caught on to Stern from the day he got to DC101 until he left, which I just want to clarify, Stern was not fired for talking about station management..Stern was fired for his calling the airport live on-air and asking how much a one-way ticket to the 14th street bridge would cost a couple days after a passenger jet crashed into the 14th st bridge and killing everyone in a ice/snow storm. That is what got him fired. Stern was trying to make a point of how stupid it was for the airplane to take off in the first place in the weather.<br /><br />The Greaseman (Doug Tract) was hilarious but had a completely different style. Greaseman used sound effects and voice characters for his bits. Thanks ! Brian Davishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00846299736165215660noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-58797434275185746502013-06-30T17:26:22.470-04:002013-06-30T17:26:22.470-04:00Manson: Notorious Crime and Trial
Tonight on the B...Manson: Notorious Crime and Trial<br />Tonight on the BIO Channel 9PM PST.<br /><br />Be there or be square......Doc Sierrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15092659205764422809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-40532594193385123432013-06-30T16:56:19.480-04:002013-06-30T16:56:19.480-04:00Lastly, Bobby Beausoleil is releasing Lucifer Risi...Lastly, Bobby Beausoleil is releasing Lucifer Rising in different colored vinyl- apparently the last reissue. You can purchase for $59 on cdbaby.com.<br /><br />http://whitedogmusic.com/<br />Lynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04857339832418981386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-30006134481787677212013-06-30T16:53:01.376-04:002013-06-30T16:53:01.376-04:00More info on Forest Lawn Glendale
http://www.fores...More info on Forest Lawn Glendale<br />http://www.forestlawn.com/MainPark.aspx?park_id=3<br /><br />It's a rather large memorial parkLynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04857339832418981386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-87208797052271226712013-06-30T16:52:05.267-04:002013-06-30T16:52:05.267-04:00Thanks for the welcome posts. Kimchi, I was down i...Thanks for the welcome posts. Kimchi, I was down in Long Beach recently. We were sitting out by the water, eating at Bostons and they played that song. Had not heard it in years and it was stuck in my head for the whole week. Here is another one that gets stuck in my head quite frequently<br />http://youtu.be/ED87HYX9gXc<br />Lynnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04857339832418981386noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-74621971510208489882013-06-30T16:43:26.258-04:002013-06-30T16:43:26.258-04:00 Howard Stern goofing on the Greaseman for a raci... Howard Stern goofing on the Greaseman for a racist comment.<br />http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oi9YphfbvmE<br /><br /> Theres three parts.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13702047000467740558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-3465349410964222862013-06-30T15:04:43.242-04:002013-06-30T15:04:43.242-04:00The Grease Man was actually pretty good. I was wor...The Grease Man was actually pretty good. I was working graveyard shift for a while and I'd come home in the morning and drink Stroh's and listen to his morning show. His name wasn't a household word in DC like Howard Stern but I had beer come out of my nose more than once thanks to the Grease Man..... Doc Sierrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15092659205764422809noreply@blogger.com