tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post1883065809270085497..comments2024-03-19T21:34:44.985-04:00Comments on The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog: Not the Cleavers...Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger116125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-33682741929741654322013-05-25T09:27:36.101-04:002013-05-25T09:27:36.101-04:00Always thought Rosemary's reactions were an im...Always thought Rosemary's reactions were an important point<br />Plus, the LaBianca house was creepy-crawled.<br />And the dogs left outside when hey should be inside.<br />And this was in Helter Skelter! Yet Bug made nothing of the fact that Rosemary reported the creepy-crawling to a friend and the Manson Family admitted doing this kind of thing! It's just abandoned!<br /><br />Point 2: Why did Abigail wave at Susan? Its always bothered me. According to Susan, she waved twice. According to that musician, was it the guy in Love, when Bobby B showed up at his house, he let Susan crash on the bed and when she came out she was so strung-out and thin and dirty…pure, total methamphetamine looks…that the Love guy was furious and let Bobby know. "That thing has been on my bed"<br />Now if something that looked like this traipsed through my home in the middle of the night, I wouldn't look up from my book and wave. Twice. What kind of creatures were parading through the Tate house? And why didn't Sharon put a stop to it all?<br />Does it seem to anyone that Sharon and Voytek/Abigail were leading separate lives? Disconnected lives? Two total drug users going on mega benders, and one clean pregnant girl. <br />So it's the 60s and things like this happen but it seems weird. Was Sharon clear about what was going on? She doesn't seem to have mentioned it to anyone. Its almost like she didnt know them. Did Sebring come over to keep her company away from them? Would you want a guy like Voytek around if you were pregnant?<br />And as for Polanski, leaving a pregnant woman with a man he knew by his own admission was into shady business, at a time when Didion said everyone knew these overlapping worlds were sparking serious trouble…how do you leave a woman in that situation? <br />Oh yes. You crack jokes on your lie detector test, fuck stewardesses before your murdered bride is even cold and then sodomize a child. Why am I even asking?fiona1933https://www.blogger.com/profile/00041216158548547908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-13560305962463924592013-05-25T09:13:46.979-04:002013-05-25T09:13:46.979-04:00And always remember that Joan Didion commented tha...And always remember that Joan Didion commented that the whole scene, between the 'Beautiful People" an dthe underworld had become menacing. Didion said that a short while before Tate, she had stepped into her hallway and found a total stranger there, a seedy and scary-looking man. She asked him what he wanted and he said nothing for several minutes, just a strange eerie pause, and then "Chicken Delight?" <br />"No" Didion said, nobody had ordered any and she stood kind of paralysed, waiting…the man turned and left.<br />It's a weird scene: who was that man and what did he want: Didion seemed to feel that he was a killer.<br />Shortly after that, they got the Tate news and Didion said that she always remembers and wishes she did not: "that nobody was surprised"…and she italicised this for emphasis. Nobody was surprised. <br />Why? Just because of the scene in general or specifically the Polanski house scene? <br />Everyone was kind of blase about it. It had been coming to someone, at least.<br />Wish I knew what Didion talked about with Linda…she doesnt reveal much.fiona1933https://www.blogger.com/profile/00041216158548547908noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-28857914022205601202013-05-13T13:02:30.028-04:002013-05-13T13:02:30.028-04:00Thanks for the welcomes.
Kimchi, no I haven't...Thanks for the welcomes.<br /><br />Kimchi, no I haven't heard the Kanarek interview yet.<br /><br />One of the best missed opportunities throughout the TLB trial is that Kanarek did not get to question Manson on the stand.<br /><br />On one hand it would now make for a tortuous read, but the thought of 25 days of testimony (at least before Bugliosi got a chance to cross examine).<br /><br />Manson's statement is a great read, imagine it lasting over three weeks and covering every subject under the sun!<br /><br />I do consider Manson then as only just becoming the HIstorical FIgure he considers himself today (something Buglios knowinglyi helped to invent). His testimony would have been fascinating.Chris Bhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14711422705919582549noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-33096589999769652362013-05-13T00:13:37.885-04:002013-05-13T00:13:37.885-04:00Sweet Listenin' Doc. I know. I listened to i...Sweet Listenin' Doc. I know. I listened to it very many nights in 1971. I had a record player in my room, and my mom allowed me to listen to it on low volume after her bedtime. Which I did....<br /><br />G'night Jugdish! :) <br /><br />LOL.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-19163438657838376592013-05-12T23:35:00.582-04:002013-05-12T23:35:00.582-04:00Okay...for Doc... LOL. Sweet Listenin'!!! The ...Okay...for Doc... LOL. Sweet Listenin'!!! The whole album!! :)<br /><br />Night y'all!<br />------------------------<br />I'll give it a listen tonight.<br />What about Jugdish?Doc Sierrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15092659205764422809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-16631219672334304832013-05-12T23:28:28.747-04:002013-05-12T23:28:28.747-04:00Okay...for Doc... LOL. Sweet Listenin'!!! Th...Okay...for Doc... LOL. Sweet Listenin'!!! The whole album!! :)<br /><br />Night y'all!<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SADmPjewrlskatie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-60715298936334860422013-05-12T21:48:03.700-04:002013-05-12T21:48:03.700-04:00Hmmm, that grass underneath Sharon's and Jay&#...Hmmm, that grass underneath Sharon's and Jay's feet looks very strong and green to me. I'm surprised that the gardener told Garrettson to water that weekend....katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-38675519422854538772013-05-12T20:47:51.444-04:002013-05-12T20:47:51.444-04:00Yes Doc, I definitely have Mudslide Slim on vinyl....Yes Doc, I definitely have Mudslide Slim on vinyl. Good stuff!!!katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-58475654779151844902013-05-12T19:05:48.727-04:002013-05-12T19:05:48.727-04:00katie8753 said...
Oh well, here is James Tayl...katie8753 said...<br /><br /> Oh well, here is James Taylor with the Water Is Wide. I love this guy.<br />-------------------------------<br />Love me some James Taylor. I think I still have a copy of Mudslide Slim on vinyl.Doc Sierrahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15092659205764422809noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-87350025197240127852013-05-12T09:22:36.931-04:002013-05-12T09:22:36.931-04:00I decided to delete the asshole comment. It was p...I decided to delete the asshole comment. It was pretty gross, even for a Manson blog. <br /><br />We'll let that be Jodi's "dirty little secret". LOL.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-13297410469297955992013-05-12T01:28:35.354-04:002013-05-12T01:28:35.354-04:00Oh well, here is James Taylor with the Water Is Wi...Oh well, here is James Taylor with the Water Is Wide. I love this guy.<br /><br />Have a nice evening. I can't change the fact that he and Carly broke up. Damn.<br /><br />Night y'all.<br /><br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opfEk_Yokskkatie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-38153086320011370192013-05-11T23:40:12.225-04:002013-05-11T23:40:12.225-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-57168557815142485342013-05-11T22:35:54.320-04:002013-05-11T22:35:54.320-04:00f I were to opine on the nature of good and evil, ...<i>f I were to opine on the nature of good and evil, which I won't do, because what do I really know?<br />But even so, say I did opine? What would I say?</i><br /><br />Tom, I'm no "body language expert" or a "mind reader", but I do know what kids do.<br /><br />And every time Jodi was asked a question, whether it be in court, in a clinical interview or a TV interview, she always prefaced the answer with "Ummmmm", followed by a roll of the eyes looking up right to left.<br /><br />I'm a mother, and as such, have access to children's lies. I know that when you ask a child a direct question, and they hedge by saying "ummmm" and looking around, that they are searching for the perfect lie.<br /><br />And that's the truth.....And that's what she's been doing for the last 13 years or so. Lying her ass off.<br /><br />Good or evil? She killed this guy in cold blood, then lied about it for 5 years, then finally admitted it, but trashed the shit out of him, and continues to do so.<br /><br />Good or Evil? I say Evil.<br /><br />I rest my case.....katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-75200796908702658592013-05-11T21:58:05.501-04:002013-05-11T21:58:05.501-04:00If I were to opine on the nature of good and evil,...If I were to opine on the nature of good and evil, which I won't do, because what do I really know?<br />But even so, say I did opine? What would I say?<br /><br />I'd probably defer to our Catholic teachings, that a moral compass begins to develop in each whole being as a child. That every whole individual has the choice to embrace morality as a path to abundant living or reject it as a block to their pleasures or purposes.<br /><br />We scrutinize these Manson crimes still. But the crimes today are off the charts in comparison.<br /><br />But I am not going to say that because what in the Sam Hill would I know?TomGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17647303118718364687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-85708853395325995402013-05-11T21:23:48.462-04:002013-05-11T21:23:48.462-04:00I hate that Jodi used the system once again to hav...I hate that Jodi used the system once again to have her ugly puss on TV and trash Travis and his family, along with other folks.<br /><br />She had to have her say since the jury basically, by saying guilty of murder one by premeditation, was saying they didn't believe a word she was spitting out during her time on the stand.<br /><br />But her avenues are getting smaller....<br /><br />Once this trial is done and they've put her in prison and thrown away the key, she won't have the exposure she so desires that she got from killing another human being. She nuts, and the non-exposure will make her mad.<br /><br />I think that they should bring back the Guillotine for this execution. And make sure it's a dull blade.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-86207566093211667642013-05-11T21:18:37.570-04:002013-05-11T21:18:37.570-04:00Believe it or not, I inched my way from Casey, and...Believe it or not, I inched my way from Casey, and I will inch my way from Jodi once this cunt is buried in some prison, which will happen.<br /><br />BTW, Casey could be re-tried in Federal Court because it's now come to light that she searched for "fool proof suffocation". It's not double jeopardy.<br /><br />Let's see what happens.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-77133495851971289212013-05-11T21:16:41.509-04:002013-05-11T21:16:41.509-04:00TOM!!!! :)TOM!!!! :)katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-41074975911635944022013-05-11T21:16:02.891-04:002013-05-11T21:16:02.891-04:00Word has it in court that Jodi was involved in wit...Word has it in court that Jodi was involved in witchcraft....<br /><br />katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-45459108786248634782013-05-11T21:14:39.281-04:002013-05-11T21:14:39.281-04:00Jodie Arias is a close second to Casey Anthony as ...Jodie Arias is a close second to Casey Anthony as people who I don't like..<br /><br />But I try not to dwell on these things and move on.TomGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17647303118718364687noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-62187641451582253682013-05-11T21:05:43.656-04:002013-05-11T21:05:43.656-04:00I'm going to agree with Harold True and Res.
...I'm going to agree with Harold True and Res.<br /><br />These murders happened at places where Charlie had rejection.<br /><br />And Harold isn't crazy. He's pretty much nailed down.<br /><br /><i>Leary said: With deep respect, my I put forth the motion that Robert and Katherine get a room. Anyone second?</i><br /><br />Who is that?<br /><br /><i>Johnny said: Their throats had been cut with a butcher knife. Gus was found in bed with a heating pad and his television turned on. He had nearly been decapitated. Bess sustained blunt trauma to her head before her throat was cut. Her head was padded with newspaper and a towel, seemingly to avoid blood stains on the furniture.</i><br /><br />That sounds like a Jodi Arias MO. She stabbed, shot and decapitated. And she wasn't involved in the Mafia...at least not that I know of.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-66086481384997430052013-05-11T19:07:17.449-04:002013-05-11T19:07:17.449-04:00Badda Bing!
Happy Mother's Day to all you mot...Badda Bing!<br /><br />Happy Mother's Day to all you mothers out there. :)katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-91987355520235721042013-05-11T15:49:11.843-04:002013-05-11T15:49:11.843-04:00ResGestae said...mosey on over to Youtube and watc... ResGestae said...mosey on over to Youtube and watch the vids on the mob's one hit man, the "Iceman". <br /><br /> I've read the Iceman Book by Carlo(I think thats His name)and watched the HBO Videos.<br /> While theres no doubt He was a stone cold Killer I have to wonder if He made up some of that stuff.Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13702047000467740558noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-58869223655735933902013-05-11T13:29:25.604-04:002013-05-11T13:29:25.604-04:00Bobby, that was waaaaaay too much info! LOL Talk...Bobby, that was waaaaaay too much info! LOL Talk about skimpy suits.<br /><br />I was referring to vintage Speedos, there's a pic of George Hamilton and Geraldo Rivera wearing the exact same suit as Jay. Of course I can't find it now, but it's out there somewhere, I saw it.<br /><br />So, in other words, if it was underwear (which I don't think so) then lots of well-known guys were in public wearing their undies.Venushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01510083489728391657noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-55474294687992532812013-05-11T12:35:29.680-04:002013-05-11T12:35:29.680-04:00With deep respect, my I put forth the motion that ...With deep respect, my I put forth the motion that Robert and Katherine get a room. Anyone second?<br /><br />by the way, bobby, excellent point elsewhere on BB's hung jury (not off topic since I used the word hung). I still can't fathom it.<br />leary7https://www.blogger.com/profile/16573687537798248297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-23854876970121706042013-05-11T10:41:04.637-04:002013-05-11T10:41:04.637-04:00ResGestae
I've read the book by the Iceman (an...ResGestae<br />I've read the book by the Iceman (and yes, it is chilling) but would hesitate to say that there are only certain ways the Mafia would kill someone. You can go through the litany of mob related murders and find some fairly horrific ones. I'll give you an example, syndicate accountant Gus Greenbaum (the man who took over the Flamingo on the night of Bugsy Siegel's demise) would meet his own demise when caught embezzling. Here is how he and his wife were killed:<br />"His embezzlement was discovered by the Chicago syndicate. On December 3, 1958, Greenbaum and his wife Bess were found dead in their Phoenix home. Their throats had been cut with a butcher knife. Gus was found in bed with a heating pad and his television turned on. He had nearly been decapitated. Bess sustained blunt trauma to her head before her throat was cut. Her head was padded with newspaper and a towel, seemingly to avoid blood stains on the furniture.[1]"<br />Not the usual 22 to the head or made to disappear, eh? <br />Obviously a message death, don't cheat the mob. <br /><br />In terms of Charley being mad at Melcher, I would just point out that Charley knew very well where Melcher lived. Maybe he was sending a message to Melcher but surely even Charley would know that sending that message by killing a pregnant filmstar at Melcher's old digs would bring the heat on Charlie to something akin to the sun. Charlie may be a criminal, he didn't leave his brains behind on Terminal Island. <br /><br />But I don't disagree about your point on the possibilities of multiple motives being in play. <br /><br /><br />johnnyseattlehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10315694616360383693noreply@blogger.com