tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post4756040025901538231..comments2024-03-19T21:34:44.985-04:00Comments on The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog: This Ain't Melba Toast!Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger23125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-5881717931070503382017-11-25T04:46:07.554-05:002017-11-25T04:46:07.554-05:00During the Manson trial, Vincent Bugliosi contacte...<br />During the Manson trial, Vincent Bugliosi contacted Melba Kronkite informing her that Charlie Manson had a hit on her.<br /><br />Melba fled to Switzerland. Prior to her leaving the country her immediate family was also told be cautious of anything unusual.<br /><br />Melba's family history is interesting in itself being that her father was Mormon living in Mexico. Both she and her sister Margaret were born in Mexico. Margaret married a Mason and oil man, who died of knife wound to the heart.<br /><br />Melba's only sister lives in Oceanside California, Maureen Wilson. intheknowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05811037556313367011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-62645978729314097752017-11-25T04:34:51.856-05:002017-11-25T04:34:51.856-05:00Melba Kronkite was contacted by Vincent Bugliosi i...Melba Kronkite was contacted by Vincent Bugliosi informing her that Charlie Manson had put a hit out on her. <br /><br />Supposedly over her meddling with the children on the ranch and CPS. <br /><br />Melba fled to Switzerland. <br /><br />Melba Lake was born in Mexico to a Mormon family. Her father was Willard Lake rode with Poncho Villa as a cook. <br /><br />Her sister Margaret Lake was born in Mexico as well. She married a Mason and was an Eastern Star.<br /><br />Her only living sister is Maureen Wilson in Oceanside, Ca. <br /><br />During the Manson trial all Melba's family member's were cautioned about the family. This included nieces and nephews.intheknowhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05811037556313367011noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-10643840606801267902014-11-03T20:32:41.496-05:002014-11-03T20:32:41.496-05:00Hi Deb. I've re-read your comment several tim...Hi Deb. I've re-read your comment several times because I was confused. It sounded like you were saying that Pitman was arrested in Mendocino, but what I think you're saying is that the info said it was mistakenly said that Melba was a friend of a "defendant", but that she was a friend of Nancy's, through the Pitman family.<br /><br />Am I reading that right?katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-35205608384391704962014-11-02T12:17:44.569-05:002014-11-02T12:17:44.569-05:00My gut feeling about Melba's connection to the...My gut feeling about Melba's connection to the Family is that it was through the Pitman's who also lived in Malibu. Of course that's only my gut which is sometimes wrong. <br /><br />The Mendocino document says that Melba was "a long time family friend of one of the other defendants in this case" but considering that Melba's last name is totally misspelled maybe whoever wrote the report also messed up slightly saying she was a friend of another defendant. She could have been a friend of another Manson Family member, like Nancy Pitman.<br /><br />The Pitman's lived in Malibu and had the wealth to have run in the same social circles as Melba. I don't think you could say that about any of the girls that were arrested in the Mendocino Bust.DebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-31592512800457751702014-10-31T16:46:20.907-04:002014-10-31T16:46:20.907-04:00the dailybeast.com today has Gay Talese's 1970...the dailybeast.com today has Gay Talese's 1970 article on Manson featured.leary7https://www.blogger.com/profile/16573687537798248297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-11018624050849005932014-10-31T14:37:40.006-04:002014-10-31T14:37:40.006-04:00a super sleuth would check Melba's medical rec...a super sleuth would check Melba's medical records and see if by chance she got a slimey "gift" from Charlie and/or the Family.leary7https://www.blogger.com/profile/16573687537798248297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-31554276149092532182014-10-31T14:33:43.808-04:002014-10-31T14:33:43.808-04:00Wishful thinking on my part (tis my forte) but I&#...Wishful thinking on my part (tis my forte) but I've always longed for a credible Family source that the TLB super researchers (L/S, Deb, Patty, Matt, Kimchi and others) could go to for verifications and clarifications. I've always thought either Cappy or Gypsy would be solid 'go-to" sources but alas they've chosen wisely and remained elusive. Actually, Charlie himself is probably a good source if you can wade through his bullshit. Stupid question (another forte) but does any of the TLB bloggers stay in touch with Manson. I thought Candy and Nuts used to, but haven't seen her in awhile. <br />any insights Lynyrd...great thread and even better post mid-way. You're on your game big time.leary7https://www.blogger.com/profile/16573687537798248297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-70933378432176242272014-10-31T00:47:52.894-04:002014-10-31T00:47:52.894-04:00Lynyrd!! Love this blog. Lynyrd!! Love this blog. Mrstormsurgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08979442670384492209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-89738474554840263552014-10-30T21:04:28.927-04:002014-10-30T21:04:28.927-04:00Stormsurge!!!!Stormsurge!!!!LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729740027224198169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-53063801347546037162014-10-30T20:14:03.605-04:002014-10-30T20:14:03.605-04:00Stormy, good question. But, I have a feeling they...Stormy, good question. But, I have a feeling they would have worn their welcome out, like they did at every other place they stayed.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-64527061750968578632014-10-30T10:52:23.543-04:002014-10-30T10:52:23.543-04:00Ooo, ooo, Mr. Kotter!!!! Why didn't the Family...Ooo, ooo, Mr. Kotter!!!! Why didn't the Family stay at this chick's ranch if she had so much room and if they were giving her a car?Mrstormsurgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08979442670384492209noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-32437899645043049512014-10-29T21:12:58.063-04:002014-10-29T21:12:58.063-04:00One hundred dollars (and a free tinfoil hat) to th...One hundred dollars (and a free tinfoil hat) to the first person, who can tie "Melba" to the drug motive! LOL<br /><br />Was she "bankrolling" Tex's drug operation from "behind the scenes"??<br /><br />"Laundering" money??<br /><br />YOU decide!!<br /><br />; )<br /><br />OO--EE--OO!!LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729740027224198169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-17025045147928926072014-10-29T21:11:36.495-04:002014-10-29T21:11:36.495-04:00I just did the math:
Melba was roughly 56 years o...I just did the math:<br /><br />Melba was roughly 56 years old in 1969 (some records indicate 53) , and her husband had been dead for 8 years.<br /><br />Was Manson "balling" this lonely 56 year-old widow, just to gain access to another luxurious (and free) hangout?<br /><br />He gave her a car, and some money to boot.<br /><br />I don't know what the "<i>connection</i>" was, but they obviously liked each other, a whole lot!<br /><br />YOU decide!LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729740027224198169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-30062665501282326032014-10-29T21:05:02.242-04:002014-10-29T21:05:02.242-04:00Lynyrd said:
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You know, funny you mention...Lynyrd said:<br /><><br /><br />You know, funny you mention that...<br /><br />Backporch put up an audio (a ways back) with a convo of he and Charlie...<br /><br />Manson was telling him about a rich lady he had a rendezvous with at a motel out in the desert (I want to say Blythe, but not sure)...he said she was hung up on him, but he didn't feel the same way...I think he jammed and left a suitcase or shoes, or something like that there.....I always wondered who he was talking about...lots of names came to mind...<br /><br />Maybe Sunset can track that audio down...hey, where is Sunset? <br /><br /><br />Kimchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16067727501654193744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-21646916764708763612014-10-29T20:58:48.621-04:002014-10-29T20:58:48.621-04:00((((((((((-----SAINT-----))))))))))((((((((((-----SAINT-----))))))))))LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729740027224198169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-45133234031423923572014-10-29T20:51:04.394-04:002014-10-29T20:51:04.394-04:00Thanks DebS.
I actually thought of you, as I was ...<b>Thanks DebS.</b><br /><br />I actually thought of you, as I was posting this thread.<br /><br />I thought to myself: <br />This is something that DebS would appreciate.<br /><br />=====================================<br /><br />A few people have asked me:<br />What is the significance (and/or interest) behind researching this woman?<br /><br />The "interest" I suppose, stems NOT from how much we DO know about Melba... but quite to the contrary, in how much we DON'T (know about her).<br /><br />She's very much a "mystery lady" of sorts... and still is.<br /><br />For a woman who's been mentioned a good handful of times in TLB paperwork (and lore)... as researchers, we really know very little about her... and therein, lies the curiosity for me.<br /><br />She's been mentioned in:<br />#1) Sander's book<br />#2) Deemer's police list/report<br />#3) The Mendocino document<br />#4) Paul Fitzgerald's legal papers<br /><br />She may have be mentioned elsewhere, too. That's just the places, that I'm personally aware of.<br /><br />AND YET... <br />We really know very little about her... or who the heck, she really is.<br /><br />=====================================<br /><br />So many questions:<br /><br />#1) Why would a woman (who seems so tremendously affluent) want to befriend the "Manson Family"?<br /><br />She must have been pretty close to them.<br /><br />Manson gave her a car... and according to Sanders, some money too.<br /><br />She vouched for one of the girls, during the Mendocino incident.<br /><br />They visited her periodically, and hung-out by her "heated pool".<br /><br />The "family" spent an entire week, shoveling shit for her (several hundred stalls-worth). <br /><br />And these, are just the things we know about.<br /><br />Wilson was ALSO an affluent person (who befriended "the family")... but (<i>I assume</i>) his primary attraction, was the young girls.<br /><br />I have to ask myself:<br />What WAS it, that attracted this "blue blood" woman, to the Manson Family???<br /><br />=====================================<br /><br />#2) The whole "rich thing" is kinda confusing too.<br /><br />Sanders states that she was rich.<br /><br />Then (in the next breath)... Sanders states, that she had fallen on hard times ("impecunious times", to be exact).<br /><br />BUT...<br />He also states, that she owned a "luxurious ranch" in Malibu... hosted private parties at her "heated pool"... and had "several hundred" horse stalls.<br />That doesn't sound too "impecunious" to me! LMAO<br /><br />It's all somewhat contradictory and confusing.<br /><br />I mean:<br />To look at the equestrian photos, you'd assume she was a rich baroness.<br /><br />But then again... <br />Why would a woman that rich, need a car (and money) from Charles Manson???<br /><br />=====================================<br /><br />I'd love to see this woman interviewed!<br />That would be a real hoot!<br />But Alas... her AND her husband, are both deceased.<br /><br />Maybe one of the Manson Associates would be willing to discuss the mysterious "Malibu Melba"?<br /><br />=====================================<br /><br />Does anyone think Manson was "balling" that??? LOL<br /><br />Kinda makes you wonder...<br /><br />Manson doesn't generally give-away cars and money, to too many people.<br />He usually "takes" stuff.<br /><br />Was there a "romance" between "Manson" and lonely "Malibu Melba"?<br /><br />According to Sanders:<br /><i>"Unmentionable and secret were the encounters around her heated Malibu pool."</i><br /><br />OO--EE-OO!!!!LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729740027224198169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-32224565839172064572014-10-29T20:32:49.265-04:002014-10-29T20:32:49.265-04:00I was re-reading The Family today, trying to find ...I was re-reading The Family today, trying to find anything about this woman, but did read that when they got arrested in Mendocino, that Pooh Bear had a yeast infection. Is this true?<br /><br />I hope he only got it from his mother during gestation or the birthing process. The other alternative is so sickening I can't imagine it.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-86213072418667621742014-10-29T20:29:48.929-04:002014-10-29T20:29:48.929-04:00This is really incredible stuff...
Your ( You'...This is really incredible stuff...<br /><br />Your ( You're?) right though about my grammar as well....<br /><br />batting 1,000 today L/S lol Rock on My Man ;)Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10291550902325920904noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-78429175370646866552014-10-29T20:18:30.319-04:002014-10-29T20:18:30.319-04:00Thanks for the thread! I've gotta say, I'...Thanks for the thread! I've gotta say, I've never even heard of this woman.<br /><br />I wonder why a woman in her late fifties would have anything to do with that nutjob or his creepy cronies.<br /><br />She must have been REALLY Lonely!!katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-80531445344504296732014-10-29T11:27:33.926-04:002014-10-29T11:27:33.926-04:00Excellent sleuthing! I was surprised to see Melba...Excellent sleuthing! I was surprised to see Melba pop up on the Witches of Mendocino document. Before then I was beginning to think she was a made up person. Glad you persevered and figured it out!!!!!DebShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17093893870315262396noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-34327673171456659832014-10-28T21:55:35.301-04:002014-10-28T21:55:35.301-04:00Thanks Kimchi!
You ROCK!Thanks Kimchi!<br /><br />You ROCK!LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729740027224198169noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-1929117253511048592014-10-28T20:50:27.264-04:002014-10-28T20:50:27.264-04:00The Internet is really amazing, isn't it?
No ...The Internet is really amazing, isn't it?<br /><br />No such thing as anonymity anymore is there....<br /><br />Wonder what else will "pop up" one of these days!<br /><br />Good job Lynyrd! Kimchihttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16067727501654193744noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-20710894661723159452014-10-28T15:23:32.026-04:002014-10-28T15:23:32.026-04:00Thanks to everyone who helped to compile this thre...Thanks to everyone who helped to compile this thread.<br /><br />You KNOW who you are...<br /><br />Great Job!LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14729740027224198169noreply@blogger.com