tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post3735731688171063804..comments2024-03-19T21:34:44.985-04:00Comments on The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger197125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-61590119549909229302012-07-14T15:03:38.885-04:002012-07-14T15:03:38.885-04:00202 ... WOOHOO! LOLOL<b>202 ... WOOHOO! LOLOL</b>LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603696815079837528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-43758994864492803822012-07-14T14:49:25.443-04:002012-07-14T14:49:25.443-04:00OK I'll make it 201 comments. LOL!
>>&...OK I'll make it 201 comments. LOL!<br /><br />>>>Leary said: Mere murder. The sociapath Manson with his magnetic evilness and a squad of drugged-out, fucked-out idiots decided it was time to stop play acting at war and kill some pigs. That's it. That's all she wrote.>>><br /><br />That's putting it perfectly!!!katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-78675908258102605372012-07-14T11:37:24.080-04:002012-07-14T11:37:24.080-04:00I can't resist the opportunity to make this a ...I can't resist the opportunity to make this a 200 count thread.<br />I just finished a good book called 'American Desperado'. It is about Jon Roberts, nee Riccobono, who was born into the Mafia (father and uncles big shots) then trained as an assassin in Vietnam and then rose to be one of the two top Americans in the Medillin Cartel. Here is a great quote where Roberts refelcts on himself -<br />"I might be a sociapath. Most of the time I have been on this earth I've had no regard for human life. That's been the key to my success.<br /><br />But the quote I really love comes from his new wife, thirty years his younger. Her name is Noemi.<br />"I sdore Jon. But the day I met him, he touched me and my body went numb, because his energy is black. Jon is not human. I love him, but I live as a prisoner. I cannot leave him because his evil is magnetic."<br /><br />That is one great fucking quote.<br />We ponder why all those middle class kids became so devoted to Manson. Right there, in that quote, is the answer. Evil is magnetic. It is seductive and bedazzling. I have had the "privlige" of encountering pure evil twice in my life. It will alter your world, believe me.<br /><br />Is/was Charlie Manson pure evil? Of course he is, he admits it himself dozens of times in interviews. Is he a sociopath? Absolutely. Again, he talks often of there being no difference to him if one person is killed or five hundred. Is Charlie's evilness magnetic? Again, there is no question about it.<br /><br />The new interesting poster Dinngo had this great quote on a Col thread recently. He wrote...<br />"There is no motive here other than mere murder."<br />MERE MURDER!!!<br />What a great phrase.<br />And now we have lunatic revisionists arguing that is was robbery and Parent was killed last after he witnessed the robbery.<br />Pleeeease. It is an insult to the victims to engage in such retared theorizing.<br />Mere murder. The sociapath Manson with his magnetic evilness and a squad of drugged-out, fucked-out idiots decided it was time to stop play acting at war and kill some pigs. That's it. That's all she wrote.leary7https://www.blogger.com/profile/16573687537798248297noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-89265313416585719572012-07-13T19:12:53.681-04:002012-07-13T19:12:53.681-04:00Starship I believe Charlie stated in Emmon's b...Starship I believe Charlie stated in Emmon's book that Sharon tried to make it to the corner livingrom door. Charlie was told this by Tex the night of the murders. <br /><br />Tex famously stated to a shrink that the victims "were all running around like chickens with their heads cut off". Tex never said "all except Sharon".<br /><br />I am not certain if it was Linda or Sadie who said Sharon was spotted headed to the back corner. livingroom door. Linda told the story of the night at Cielo to the commune leader in Taos. "IF" I remember correctly I believe it was definantly a female who stated that Sharon made an attempt to exit. There was definantly a point where all the killers were in the Cielo front yard while only Sharon was still alive and unguarded in the livingroom.MrPoirothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155552886069024565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-70911964865110112052012-07-13T09:15:56.910-04:002012-07-13T09:15:56.910-04:00Mr. Poirot:
Your comment above is excellent.
I a...Mr. Poirot:<br /><br />Your comment above is excellent.<br /><br />I am not attacking and/or calling you names. This is not the Cols blog indeed. I indeed make mistakes, and try to fess up to them...in fact it appears I may have made one on another blog just yesterday.<br /><br />You challenged Katie about your assertion of Sharon fleeing by stating "Read" I can assure you I have read and studied quite a bit myself. Nothing I have ever read supports your assertion. I distinctly recall, in fact, at least one source which claims that Sharon was left alone in the living room for a few short minutes and that she obviously never even tried to escape. I certainly don't expect anyone to believe that unless I can cite a source. Right now I cannot, but I will do some digging and if I can find it you can be assured that I will post it.<br /><br />Peace.starshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-79523209575293952932012-07-12T22:34:18.040-04:002012-07-12T22:34:18.040-04:00Lynyrd Skynyrd said,(quote)
It's also worth n...Lynyrd Skynyrd said,(quote)<br /><br />It's also worth noting here:<br />If Kasabian had foolishly NOT "taken the deal"... (and make no mistake folks, it was a deal no matter how you slice it)... Bugliosi would have turned on her immediately, and prosecuted her to the full extent of the law, just like all the others.<br />You would have seen "Linda" painted in a totally different light by Bugs... and that's worthy of thought and clarification.<br />Love him or hate him... Bugluiosi was, in fact, a very effective lawyer.. and Kasabian (a criminal in her own right), would have done time.<br /><br />I'm not a huge "Linda fan" myself.<br /><br />July 12, 2012 7:13 PM(end quote)<br /><br />Poirot replies:<br /><br />Bug was initially overwhelmed at his appointment as Chief Prosecutor after the first Chief Pros was unfairly dismissed(Stovall?sp). Can you imagine what would have happened if Sadie had remained the state's chief witness?(no guilty verdicts that's for sure)Can you imagine a Sadie May Glutz free on the streets of America? It is easy to imagine that Bug is probably still breathing a sigh of relief that Sadie turned back to being loyal to Charlie thus forcing Bug to use Linda as his main witness.<br />Yes I firmly agree Bug would have viciously attempted to prosecute Linda Kasabian for seven counts of murder one had Sadie not recanted.<br />I have never been able to fathom what made Linda Kasabian participate in both the Tate and Labianca massacres. In that aspect, yes, she definantly was cut from a different cloth. But Tex and Krenwinkle came off that same loom.MrPoirothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155552886069024565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-40323353479233842752012-07-12T19:13:14.864-04:002012-07-12T19:13:14.864-04:00I agree Saint.
I have reservations, regarding Kas...<b>I agree Saint.<br /><br />I have reservations, regarding Kasabian.<br /><br />She was pretty messed-up before she even got to the ranch.<br />She was no hapless "Snow White", that's for dang sure.<br /><br />She was involved in these murders no matter how you slice it, and hence, is a criminal in her own right.<br /><br />Bugliosi loved to say:<br />"Linda was cut from a different cloth".<br /><br />I think her "cloth" was much more similar (to the others), than Bugliosi portrayed.<br />"Birds of a feather", as it were...<br /><br />Bugliosi knew, that painting Linda as "a cut above" would make her a more credible witness in the eyes of the jury... and hence, make her more valuable to his prosecution.<br />Her "squeaky clean persona" was carefully planned and orchestrated.<br /><br />Folks always hound Bugliosi about "Helter Skelter", but I submit... his portrayal of Kasabian as a hapless victim of circumstance, may have been his greatest distortion and fabrication, of all.<br /><br />Of all the pieces of shit to choose from... yeah... I probably would have used Kasabiam myself, as a prosecutor.<br />She <i>was</i> (in a sense) "less guilty" than the others... but c'mon... how far does "less guilty" take ya?<br />As Marlin said:<br />"How far can you carry empathy?"<br /><br />I'm very pleased that Kasabian did, in fact, testify and jail these criminals.<br />But, one has to ask:<br />Did she do it "just to be a nice girl"???<br />OR... did she do it, to save her own skin???<br />If you look at her track record of decisions before, during, and after the murders... I think the answer to that question, is pretty clear.<br /><br />It's also worth noting here:<br />If Kasabian had foolishly NOT "taken the deal"... (and make no mistake folks, it <i>was</i> a deal no matter how you slice it)... Bugliosi would have turned on her immediately, and prosecuted her to the full extent of the law, just like all the others.<br />You would have seen "Linda" painted in a <i>totally</i> different light by Bugs... and that's worthy of thought and clarification.<br />Love him or hate him... Bugluiosi was, in fact, a very effective lawyer.. and Kasabian (a criminal in her own right), would have done time.<br /><br />I'm not a huge "Linda fan" myself.</b>LynyrdSkynyrdBandhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04603696815079837528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-82591481911541033312012-07-12T18:07:15.953-04:002012-07-12T18:07:15.953-04:00Starship I have made no more mistakes than you hav...Starship I have made no more mistakes than you have. I think it is acceptible in the Colonel's blog to gang up on posters but do you really need to ruin all the blogs by smearing anyone you choose?MrPoirothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155552886069024565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-54282698145344807772012-07-12T13:37:10.869-04:002012-07-12T13:37:10.869-04:00and St....thanks for the nice words.and St....thanks for the nice words.starshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-3872720601491171612012-07-12T13:36:33.737-04:002012-07-12T13:36:33.737-04:00No, sorry, Mr. P. I think you are all wet on this...No, sorry, Mr. P. I think you are all wet on this one. You have been wet in the past from time to time too. That said, I always like to hear what you have to say.<br /><br />But I think you better post some real live sources on this one. And if it's Statman, then don't bother.starshiphttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13207679706874165027noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-24988323021811199072012-07-12T13:06:24.986-04:002012-07-12T13:06:24.986-04:00Hey I respect all of you, and love the new opinion...Hey I respect all of you, and love the new opinions...<br /><br />mine is this on the Linda subject...<br /><br />NO EXCUSE TO LEAVE YOUR CHILD WITH PEOPLE YOU KNOW ARE KILLERS<br /><br />no room to be flexible for me on this one...<br /><br />the way she raised her child- and even after all of that mess- leaves very much to be desired...<br /><br />Linda was no angel in any way shape or form...<br /><br />Kudos- she didn't kill anyone- <br /><br />But that is the very nicest thing that deserves to be said about her <br /><br />in a real Saints opinionAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-90068663810606427002012-07-12T10:22:58.469-04:002012-07-12T10:22:58.469-04:00Thanks Dinggo.
I have mixed feelings about Linda....Thanks Dinggo.<br /><br />I have mixed feelings about Linda. Some people on these blogs like to say that Tex & Linda had a "bond". I don't see that. For some reason, Tex just told her to be a "lookout" the first night. She obviously wasn't an effective killer.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-86512349718840469912012-07-12T09:11:03.034-04:002012-07-12T09:11:03.034-04:00Mr. P., I certainly didn't mean to give the im...Mr. P., I certainly didn't mean to give the impression that you're not welcome to comment here. You are ALWAYS welcome! I was just curious which killer made that comment, because I've never heard it.<br /><br />As for The Family, I love that book. I've read it many times. I think Sanders did an excellent job on that book. I only said that there are a few things in there that I think are based on rumor and not fact.<br /><br />The You Tube video of Ruby could be long gone I don't know. You should know as well as I do, they come and go.<br /><br />>>>You have to remember that SIX Family members AT LEAST entered the Cielo home the night of the murders. Possibly even seven.>>><br /><br />Well, the only ones who would have seen what Sharon did were the 3 or 4 that were actually there at the time of the murders.<br /><br />Mr. P., you and I both know that the killers have said lots of things during the years, changing stories more often than their underwear. If you have had personal conversations with these people or people who know these people, then you're way ahead of me, because I have not.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-43214403767115844832012-07-12T06:17:00.991-04:002012-07-12T06:17:00.991-04:00"But do you really think that Linda cared tha..."But do you really think that Linda cared that much for her child? Didn't she leave her behind when she finally did leave?"<br /><br />I would like to think so. If we had the answer to one question then we'd probably have a much better idea. The one question is: did she believe that the family would harm her child in her absence? If the answer to that question is, "no", then much easier to see how she could be willingly to leave without her child.<br /><br />Lastly, the CieloDrive.com site has this to say:<br /><br />On August 11, 1969, Manson instructed Linda to bring a message to the jailed Sandy Good, Mary Brunner, and Bobby Beausoleil. Kasabian saw it as an opportunity to flee the ranch (without Tanya). She droved straight to New Mexico, where her husband was living with another woman. Linda explained what had happened, and said that she couldn't have brought Tanya because it would've looked too suspicious. Bob Kasabian wanted to go back to Spahn's Ranch to get his daughter, but Linda was too afraid. After making a call to Spahn' Ranch, Linda learned that Tanya had been placed in foster care after the raid on August 16th. After talking to a social worker, Linda returned to Los Angeles and eventually got her daughter back.<br /><br />If that is true, then would seem that she cared for her daughter.<br /><br />Lastly, I think that what some have even more trouble with is the fact that she said nothing to law enforcement anywhere until she herself was indicted in early December. Giving her the benefit of the doubt, such is probably owing to her extreme fear of Manson & Co.<br /><br />Almost forgot, but perhaps the most convincing item of "evidence" for me is the impression of the folks who watched her testify, specifically, all the media folks who present covering the trial. I have yet to read any credible soul among the media who were present conclude anything other than she was a credible/sincere witness.dinggohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00966342039738262246noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-49526353847176060202012-07-12T03:24:25.523-04:002012-07-12T03:24:25.523-04:00katie8753 said...
Mr. P., which killer said that? ...katie8753 said...<br />Mr. P., which killer said that? Tex didn't mention it in his book, and Susan didn't say it in her Grand Jury testimony. Pat has always maintained that she didn't have anything to do with Sharon.<br /><br />Just wonderin'...(end quote)<br /><br />Poirot replies:<br /><br />Try reading. You have the curiosity but lack the desire to exert the effort to read and you make sweeping claims that "most of the books aren't worth the effort". There is one book I read that was nearly worthless but for one single paragragh. So therefore that book isn't totally worthless.<br /><br />BTW, where is the youtube where Ruby Pearl said Shorty was afraid of the Family as you claimed? Why would a fearful Shorty get in a car loaded with the biggest guys in the Family only days after telling Spahn and Frank Retz that he would rid the ranch of the hippies with Squeaky standing there as witness as Shorty ran off at the mouth. Doesn't sound like a fearful Shorty to me. Shorty was the biggest guy at the ranch since he outweighed Juan quite a bit. Tex, Clem, Charlie and Bruce were runts compared to Shorty. Although Charlie was not in the car, he appeared at the scene of the roadside ambush of Shorty. Simply disputing every word I offer is not condusive to free and open discussion. I do not keep thousands of 3x5 notecards around just waiting in case you haven't read what I have read or emailed who I emailed. I simply offer up to interested members anything I have run across over the past 15 years. <br />Just to raise your curiosty more I thought I'd let you know that two of the killers have stated in interviews that Linda Kasabian did enter the Cielo house.<br />You have to remember that SIX Family members AT LEAST entered the Cielo home the night of the murders. Possibly even seven. After the murders there was an extensive debriefing of Tex by Charlie that rivals the professionality of any WWII RAF bombing raid debriefing of Berlin, Dresden or Hamburg.<br />What is fact beyond a doubt I can't say but what was said by the killers afterwards is volumous.<br /><br />The book you love to dismiss, "The Family" is quite underestimated by you but since it was written in 1971, FOUR YEARS prior to Helter Skelter, it's importance should not be underestimated. You should quite easily be able to select the accurate from the sensationalized in Sander's first book. There are also parts of his first book that no one can prove or disprove.<br /><br />Sander's second book recently released was mostly the first book repackaged but included a fabulous anecdote of how Nancy Pitman's mother used to drive out to Spahn's all the time and check on Nancy. Contrary to Nancy Pitman's claim, her family never deserted her at all nor did Paul Watkin's family.<br />What is true and what is not true takes years and years to discover. Much of this saga will never be known.<br />Years ago it was easy to email actual Spahn Ranch participants. I knew two women online who served time with Susan and Leslie. I have spoken to three people by phone who were family members or friends of victims and murderers. Susan Atkins was believed to have murdered one cellmate by stabbing her in a stairwell over a money dispute.<br /><br />I rarely offer my opinion but I commonly state things I have read and been told personally. I really don't need to offer opinion since i've never finished trying to digest what I was told or read from participants. I've often feared that if I offer my opinion that I would only make an incredible episode in historical infamy only less interesting.<br /><br />7 Years ago at my last house I had a library with approx 2000 books but I eventually boxed them up and stashed them in my garage because I had read them all.<br /><br />Katie would you rather I didn't comment in here anymore? Many times i have scribbled out things I've read on TLB just hoping someone would add to it but sadly today most bloggers just mock anything they haven't heard before.<br /><br />Is this a free and open forum or not?MrPoirothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155552886069024565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-60581443630199582922012-07-11T15:59:18.123-04:002012-07-11T15:59:18.123-04:00Mr. P., which killer said that? Tex didn't me...Mr. P., which killer said that? Tex didn't mention it in his book, and Susan didn't say it in her Grand Jury testimony. Pat has always maintained that she didn't have anything to do with Sharon.<br /><br />Just wonderin'...katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-89701197677527827652012-07-11T15:23:42.836-04:002012-07-11T15:23:42.836-04:00Marliese said...
Just my belief...no proof, I don&...Marliese said...<br />Just my belief...no proof, I don't think Sharon bolted, escaped, got outside and was rounded up back into the house. Not saying she didn't struggle, but i don't think she got outside. (end quote)<br /><br />Poirot replies:<br /><br />I never said Sharon made it outside because she did not. I did not read this in "The Family". It is not my opinion that Sharon ran for the back door by the Garage side of the house. I learned it from reading interviews from the killers themselves.<br />I notice a common trend in blogs is for people to try and inject their own home made theories into TLB because research takes effort which is a chame because truth is always stranger than fiction.MrPoirothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155552886069024565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-27430660313425586752012-07-11T14:16:59.894-04:002012-07-11T14:16:59.894-04:00Katie said..I like to think of "if onlys"...Katie said..I like to think of "if onlys"...if only Steve Parent had just run Tex down like roadkill, if only Jay & Voytek had rushed Tex, because without Tex, the girls would have been worthless...<<<<<<<br /><br /><br />Hi Katie, i've thought the same...so many if onlys...Marliesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920353129039798997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-5032124999306485552012-07-11T14:05:07.540-04:002012-07-11T14:05:07.540-04:00I think Leno & Rosemary were probably thinking...I think Leno & Rosemary were probably thinking along the same lines. If we just give them what they want, they'll go away. <br /><br />Here's a greasy, weasley kinda guy reassuring them they wouldn't be hurt.<br /><br />Yeah right. Unfortunately, with his hands tied behind him, Leno was pretty much helpless against Tex. Rosemary did her best, but 3 against one just doesn't work.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-23902480957574248492012-07-11T14:03:14.633-04:002012-07-11T14:03:14.633-04:00Hi Marliese! I agree with you. I don't recal...Hi Marliese! I agree with you. I don't recall Sharon ever running outside. The only way we would know that is from the killers and they haven't said that to my knowledge.<br /><br />It's impossible to say what a person will do in that type of situation unless you've been there yourself. I don't have any idea what I would have done. Fear can either paralyze you or give you super power. It depends on the person. I think that Sharon was just so fearful she did the only thing she could think of...beg for mercy.<br /><br />I like to think of "if onlys"...if only Steve Parent had just run Tex down like roadkill, if only Jay & Voytek had rushed Tex, because without Tex, the girls would have been worthless...<br /><br />But...it didn't happen that way.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-31595649371869570622012-07-11T13:33:15.791-04:002012-07-11T13:33:15.791-04:00Just my belief...no proof, I don't think Sharo...Just my belief...no proof, I don't think Sharon bolted, escaped, got outside and was rounded up back into the house. Not saying she didn't struggle, but i don't think she got outside. <br /><br />There was a rope around Sharon's neck...not saying she didn't attempt to get it off or attempt to move about the room, but I don't think she got far...certainly not outside and rounded back up again. I think the idea she may have gotten to the door is surmised in The Family.<br /><br />And while we know the killers are all liars, none of them have ever said that she got outside. <br /><br />I think it's important to remember there Sharon was anchored by the rope and there was an attempt to suspend her by the rope...Thomas Noguchi, the coroner who performed Sharon's autopsy testified "it is my opinion that the rope contacted quite firmly. It is quite consistent that the decedent was hanged." (and stabbed) <br /><br />I think part of the problem i have with saying that any of the victims 'should have' heard the gunshots that killed Steven, or that they could have gotten away, or even that Sharon bolted, escaped, got outside and was rounded up again, blames the victims for supposedly not making more of an attempt to save themselves, and it's hard to do that...you know? <br /><br />And Tex had a gun. <br /><br />So many times, I've thought if only Jay had kicked Sadie right through her mouth and sent her flying into the wall, but they were caught off guard, they couldn't have imagined the horror they were about to suffer. Same with Leno and Rosemary...Marliesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920353129039798997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-82405249407758986142012-07-11T00:57:27.055-04:002012-07-11T00:57:27.055-04:00katie8753 said...
>>>Mr. P said: Sharon d...katie8753 said...<br />>>>Mr. P said: Sharon did try to run out through the door nearest the garage with Roman's office but she was rounded up by one of the girls. The killers were all in the front yard when they spotted Sharon trying to get out the house.>>><br /><br />I don't recall that Mr. P. I thought Sharon & Susan were still in the living room.<br /><br />July 10, 2012(end quote)<br /><br />Poirot replies:<br /><br />No one was alive but Sharon when Sharon bolted. She was believed to have been tied to the rafter but escaped. All of the victims tried to escape the main house except Jay who was killed first.<br />Susan wasn't much of a guard. She let Hinman get to the gun at Hinman's murder and let park rangers walk up on her lookout post above Barker Ranch.<br />There was an interesting argument between Squeaky and Charlie during the last days prior to the murders when Squeaky boldly remarked to Charlie how Sadie was always saying she'd do something and then not do it. Basically it was Squeaky telling Charlie that Sadie was a eff-up.<br />I would desdcribe both Sadie and Leslie as total eff-ups.MrPoirothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155552886069024565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-14801083826061304172012-07-10T20:01:22.024-04:002012-07-10T20:01:22.024-04:00>>>Mr. P said: Sharon did try to run out...>>>Mr. P said: Sharon did try to run out through the door nearest the garage with Roman's office but she was rounded up by one of the girls. The killers were all in the front yard when they spotted Sharon trying to get out the house.>>><br /><br />I don't recall that Mr. P. I thought Sharon & Susan were still in the living room.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-65558101732900177132012-07-10T20:00:18.305-04:002012-07-10T20:00:18.305-04:00Revatron, Susan did walk past Folger's room to...Revatron, Susan did walk past Folger's room to get to Sharon's. It's a short hallway off the living area. If you leave the living area into the hallway, Folger's room is quick left, and continue the short hallway until it ends in Sharon's bedroom.<br /><br />According to Susan, she stopped at Folger's room and looked in, and Folger smiled and waved "hi". This may or may not be true.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-86795038782384066912012-07-10T18:48:06.911-04:002012-07-10T18:48:06.911-04:00Sharon did try to run out through the door nearest...Sharon did try to run out through the door nearest the garage with Roman's office but she was rounded up by one of the girls. The killers were all in the front yard when they spotted Sharon trying to get out the house.MrPoirothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155552886069024565noreply@blogger.com