tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post3205351973958034288..comments2024-03-19T21:34:44.985-04:00Comments on The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog: Manson Family - Political Prisoners?Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-70250578961841938832014-09-12T01:58:35.708-04:002014-09-12T01:58:35.708-04:00I pretty much agree, though I do believe that in B...I pretty much agree, though I do believe that in Bruce's case the myth behind the killings he was involved with has played against him. We saw this when Brown recited bunk information in his formal denial. I think Bruce is a victim of guilty by association.<br /><br />Krenwinkel, Tex, will never go free.<br /><br />Bobby had his shot, but his cockiness and bad choices pretty much ended his bid. If he gets a 5-15 year denial next appearance he will probably die in prison.<br /><br />Cuntry Trashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05721594982194464895noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-12728366636897394882014-09-11T20:36:03.841-04:002014-09-11T20:36:03.841-04:00Also, Marliese is right. Gov. Brown doesn't h...Also, Marliese is right. Gov. Brown doesn't have to worry about Bruce Davis to get re-elected. He's probably the last thing on his plate regarding that.<br /><br />I'll bet if you did a survey in California to see who knows who Bruce Davis is, 95% of the people would say "I don't know....who?"katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-76283005996245394502014-09-11T20:32:05.232-04:002014-09-11T20:32:05.232-04:00Marliese, I agree as usual. When I think of a &qu...Marliese, I agree as usual. When I think of a "political prisoner" I think of a POW being held in unspeakable conditions and horrifying executions. Much like the recent beheadings of journalists. Not to mention the POW's of every war of the 20th Century.<br /><br />Austin Ann,that's one of the basic reasons I think these people are all nuts. They laughed about murder like they were at a slumber party. It's chilling how far detached they were from humanity. And for anyone to believe that they re-attached their brains to reality is a huge jump.<br /><br />For example, if Jodi Arias got the death penalty, and then Arizona reversed it and she was suddently up for parole, knowing that she has nothing to do with Manson, but that she shot and stabbed her ex-boyfriend and tried to cut his head off because she was jealous, should she ever get out again?<br /><br />The answer is no. There are vicious killers who should never see the light of day again. They are missing a part of their brain that makes them human.<br /><br />These killers need to just stay put.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-51685965661228669012014-09-11T12:59:20.966-04:002014-09-11T12:59:20.966-04:00Austin Ann, I agree with you...again!
Tex wouldn&...Austin Ann, I agree with you...again! <br />Tex wouldn't be out now under any circumstances...<br /><br />He put on his insane act but was judged sane when he shot, stabbed, and butchered seven people, and an unborn near full term baby...he'll never get out and never would have...regardlessMarliesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920353129039798997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-27848458273602811822014-09-11T01:42:25.031-04:002014-09-11T01:42:25.031-04:00I don't think they would let anyone out that k...I don't think they would let anyone out that killed seven people, rich or poor. Tex actually helped murder Shorty Shea too, but never was charged with it. Abigail Folger was well off, but Sharon Tate was not rich, neither were the LaBiancas. Rich or poor has absolutely nothing to do with it. Also, I don't buy into that political prisoner bologne. They murdered extremely viciously, and then paraded in front of the cameras laughing about it. I don't understand why people want them released so bad. They caused so much pain. They ruined so many people's lives. Why should they get out? AustinAnn74https://www.blogger.com/profile/06342503212454947554noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-71319296000651273702014-09-11T00:40:47.804-04:002014-09-11T00:40:47.804-04:00Katie, thanks for this subject. I agree with you, ...Katie, thanks for this subject. I agree with you, and have a hard time referring to these people with absolute certainty as "political prisoners." I guess it depends on our idea of what a political prisoner actually is... I don't feel a governor's decision whether or not a murderer is fit for parole makes the murderer a political prisoner, because I think of individuals being kidnapped, imprisoned and suffering through unspeakable acts of torture and then killed for their political or religious beliefs as political prisoners. <br /><br />And I don't agree that California's governor won't release these people out of fear he won't ever be elected to public office again if he does because I don't think these people are that important anymore. Politicians are elected and re-elected all the time for far worse...but again, that's just my opinion. :)Marliesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920353129039798997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-29564884418349112602014-09-10T22:14:51.548-04:002014-09-10T22:14:51.548-04:00If Tex's victims had not of been rich people, ...If Tex's victims had not of been rich people, he would probably be out today. But one could argue he's still in there because he was apart of The Manson Family.<br /><br />This guy is still in there because he killed a cop...even Capone didn't agree with that ... nor Luciano.<br /><br />But cops as hired hit men...that's a different story.louis365https://www.blogger.com/profile/14404892998314899727noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-52340455044541437352014-09-10T09:23:36.764-04:002014-09-10T09:23:36.764-04:00Sunset, Bruce turned himself in because Charlie to...Sunset, Bruce turned himself in because Charlie told him too. He was still Charlie's hand puppet. <br /><br />I think the words "gravity of the crimes" has a lot to do with why they're all still in prison. Nothing political about it.<br /><br />When the death penalty was overturned, they should have looked at these cases individually to decide if they could even get parole but they didn't. If they're trying to do that now, good for them.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-77427112711828545512014-09-10T08:58:56.712-04:002014-09-10T08:58:56.712-04:00Nope
A quick Google search of "murderers par...Nope<br /><br />A quick Google search of "murderers paroled in the state of California" turned up an AP article entitled "California 'lifers' leaving prison at record pace" It says in part: <br /><br />"SAN FRANCISCO (AP) — Nearly 1,400 lifers in California's prisons have been released over the past three years in a sharp turnaround in a state where murderers and others sentenced to life with the possibility of parole almost never got out.<br /><br />"Since taking office three years ago, Gov. Jerry Brown has affirmed 82 percent of parole board decisions, resulting in a record number of inmates with life sentences going free."<br /><br />Apparently, Jerry Brown has approved the release of at least 1,400 "lifers", but not Bruce McGregor Davis. As far as I'm concerned that's a violation of the "equal protection clause" of the 14th amendment of the US Constitution. "The clause, which took effect in 1868, provides that no state shall deny to any person within its jurisdiction "the equal protection of the laws".<br /><br />It is also a violation of the concept of "separation of powers". "This philosophy heavily influenced the writing of the United States Constitution, according to which the Legislative, Executive, and Judicial branches of the United States government are kept distinct in order to prevent abuse of power." Jerry Brown (a politician) in the executive branch, is making an unequal decision regarding California prison inmates that should be made by the judicial branch, these decisions are in fact made by the judicial branch in most states.<br /><br />Bruce McGregor Davis turned himself in, there is video of it on YouTube. He's been in prison for 41 years and the parole board has approved him for release twice determining he is not currently a threat to society. His release has been blocked twice by a politician. As far as I'm concerned, that's the absolute definition of "political prisoner".sunset77https://www.blogger.com/profile/04041729222425015567noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-59561420986577177032014-09-10T06:15:33.853-04:002014-09-10T06:15:33.853-04:00I agree. Thanks, Katie.I agree. Thanks, Katie.CarolMRhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06357698369178272616noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-71036287287818593742014-09-09T22:04:57.101-04:002014-09-09T22:04:57.101-04:00What this guy did was bad enough, but not nearly a...What this guy did was bad enough, but not nearly as bad as the Manson killers. <br /><br />They are not political prisoners. They are in prison, where they belong, for the rest of their lives, until Big Daddy Heaven comes down and judges them.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.com