tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post2243179998890369981..comments2024-03-16T11:39:39.772-04:00Comments on The Tate-LaBianca Homicide Research Blog: Unknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger138125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-351526192597910732011-07-04T16:40:22.196-04:002011-07-04T16:40:22.196-04:00mr p- are you saying that the plan was to kill gar...mr p- are you saying that the plan was to kill garretson or just to knock out his phone line?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-67521507584632035322011-07-04T11:25:13.706-04:002011-07-04T11:25:13.706-04:00>>>Mr Poirot replies:
The wire cutters w...>>>Mr Poirot replies:<br /><br />The wire cutters were needed because there were two houses they were attacking at Cielo.>>><br /><br />Okay, I guess that makes sense.<br /><br />>>>The rope was to hang bodies from the convenient rafters at the main house. The hanging was an added touch Charlie thought up to spread fear. But the struggle to kill 5 people was harder than they thought. They even sustained injuries.>>><br /><br />Well now you've lost me. I don't recall anyone saying that Charlie said to hang anyone. Am I missing something?<br /> <br />>>>Charlie went on night two to manage the murders since the killers didnt do it like Charlie wanted on night one. They knew the layout at Labiancas. Rope and wire cutters werent needed but Charlie did tie up the victims with leather string he brought.>>><br /><br />Well, they knew the layout of Cielo Drive too. Tex had been there.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-33978699704289225952011-07-04T09:54:55.630-04:002011-07-04T09:54:55.630-04:00>>>Beauders said: casey anthony in my op...>>>Beauders said: casey anthony in my opinion is a classic sociopath. most of these people never kill, but they are narcissistic and care nothing about other people's feeling. i am not convinced she purposely murdered her daughter though.>>><br /><br />She may have murdered her accidentally, but in any case, she's still guilty of first degree murder.<br /><br />Casey Anthony is the last person to see Caylee alive. Why won't she say what happened to her? The only reason I can come up with is that she killed her and she doesn't want to admit that.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-55494674017604662262011-07-04T08:57:56.081-04:002011-07-04T08:57:56.081-04:00katie8753 said...
I'm going to ask some questi...katie8753 said...<br />I'm going to ask some questions that I've asked several times and no one has answered.<br /><br />Why did Tex take a rope and bolt cutters to Cielo Drive & not Waverly Drive???<br /><br />Why did Charlie go along the 2nd time, and not the first?<br /><br />Mr Poirot replies:<br /><br />The wire cutters were needed because there were two houses they were attacking at Cielo. The rope<br />was to hang bodies from the convenient rafters at the main house. The hanging was an added touch Charlie thought up to spread fear. But the struggle to kill 5 people was harder than they thought. They even sustained injuries. <br />Charlie went on night two to manage the murders since the killers didnt do it like Charlie wanted on night one. They knew the layout at Labiancas. Rope and wire cutters werent needed but Charlie did tie up the victims with leather string he brought.MrPoirothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155552886069024565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-51590021535403291422011-07-04T04:19:23.063-04:002011-07-04T04:19:23.063-04:00casey anthony in my opinion is a classic sociopath...casey anthony in my opinion is a classic sociopath. most of these people never kill, but they are narcissistic and care nothing about other people's feeling. i am not convinced she purposely murdered her daughter though.beaudershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14223387983663922713noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-10075904401869503452011-07-03T22:56:18.665-04:002011-07-03T22:56:18.665-04:00I'm going to ask some questions that I've ...I'm going to ask some questions that I've asked several times and no one has answered.<br /><br />Why did Tex take a rope and bolt cutters to Cielo Drive & not Waverly Drive???<br /><br />Why did Charlie go along the 2nd time, and not the first?<br /><br />WHY????katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-84428923355815363592011-07-03T21:39:10.515-04:002011-07-03T21:39:10.515-04:00>>Mr. P. writes: I thought charlie's gu...>>Mr. P. writes: I thought charlie's guru status helped get him studio time as much or more than his singing and writing. <br /> i thought Wilson was enamored with Charlie's galactic spiel. This led dennis to use Charlie's songs.>>><br /><br />Charlie was only a "guru" to his minions. I don't really think that Wilson ever thought Charlie had any talent. I think that Wilson was thinking, as long as I placate Charlie, he'll keep bringing the broads and drugs.<br /><br />>>>I never thought Charlie's talent alone got him into a major studio. Melcher just seemed to be placating Jacobson and Wilson's pleadings to record Charlie.>>><br /><br />Yes, I agree. Melcher listened to Jackobson & Wilson whine about Charlie and finally relented. He agreed to listen to Charlie's ramblings, but I have a feeling that he was already of a mind to disregard it. His obligation was filled by listening...he didn't have any obligation after that.<br /><br />He turned Charlie down.<br /><br />Then he got scared.....katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-9628997447593817742011-07-03T21:26:04.465-04:002011-07-03T21:26:04.465-04:00I thought charlie's guru status helped get him...I thought charlie's guru status helped get him studio time as much or more than his singing and writing. i thought Wilson was enamored with Charlie's galactic spiel. This led dennis to use Charlie's songs. I never thought Charlie's talent alone got him into a major studio. Melcher just seemed to be placating Jacobson and Wilson's pleadings to record Charlie.MrPoirothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155552886069024565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-21565655130470796102011-07-03T21:14:39.364-04:002011-07-03T21:14:39.364-04:00Okay, back to Melcher.
I don't know if Terry ...Okay, back to Melcher.<br /><br />I don't know if Terry Melcher was really interested in Charlie's abilities. I have my doubts. It seems in everything I've read, he just kind of "went along with the auditions", I think to satisfy Wilson.<br /><br />Terry went to Spahn's Ranch to hear the "family jam". He wasn't impressed.<br /><br />But...I'm sure that at some point, around December 1968, Terry Melcher decided that Manson was dangerous.<br /><br />He made sure to tell everyone NOT to tell Charlie where he moved.<br /><br />Charlie was pissed at Melcher for not getting a contract.<br /><br />This was probably the beginning of Charlie's slide down into madness.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-38951020973704626242011-07-03T20:16:36.432-04:002011-07-03T20:16:36.432-04:00Well the prosecution will have final rebuttal tomo...Well the prosecution will have final rebuttal tomorrow starting at 8:30am Eastern Time. Then the jury deliberates.<br /><br />We'll see what they come up with.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-77371228635285383562011-07-03T18:11:03.998-04:002011-07-03T18:11:03.998-04:00"lying and being unemotional isn't proof ..."lying and being unemotional isn't proof that you killed someone."<br /><br />No it's not proof of murder. But you have to admit, Casey Anthony acted very suspiciously after Caylee disappeared, with no apparent excuse for it.<br /><br />The defense has made a pretty good case, except they're still talking in final arguments, which started before noon Eastern Time. I think they're overdoing it big time. Saying the same things over and over. The jury is going to stop listening.<br /><br />Oh well....I guess we'll see what happens.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-27643845759669317712011-07-03T14:54:19.828-04:002011-07-03T14:54:19.828-04:00lying and being unemotional isn't proof that y...lying and being unemotional isn't proof that you killed someone.<br /> you can't convict on conjecture.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-82018158215978828992011-07-03T14:06:02.974-04:002011-07-03T14:06:02.974-04:00Matt you're right. It's all conjecture ab...Matt you're right. It's all conjecture about how she died, when, where and who did it.<br /><br />They've proven that Casey is a manipulative liar. And she's not on trial for that.<br /><br />BUT.....they have also proven that for a month after Caylee disappeared, Casey lied her ass off about her activities, where she was, made up people that she was hanging out with, and the WHOLE WHILE...never showing any evidence of any emotional distress about her daughter being gone.<br /><br />I think the jury will look at that long and hard. Plus, they can see Casey every day and she is the coldest, most un-emotional person I've ever seen. She's a great actress. She only cries at odd times, but her eye makeup never smears, which any woman can tell you, that won't happen if you're really crying. LOL.<br /><br />I guess we'll find out sometime soon what the jury thinks.<br /><br />The defense is doing pretty good on final arguments, but they appear sloppy and unprepared, so that works against them.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-74370792645131868382011-07-03T13:34:17.646-04:002011-07-03T13:34:17.646-04:00don't get me wrong i think shes guilty.
but ...don't get me wrong i think shes guilty.<br /> but if they havent proven when she died or how she died how can they prove who did it?<br /> all they've really proved is that she was a bad person and a liar.<br /><br /> i don't think thats enough to convict if you go by the letter of the lawAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-67160108597579977872011-07-03T12:56:02.397-04:002011-07-03T12:56:02.397-04:00Oh wait, court will resume at 1:30pm Eastern Time....Oh wait, court will resume at 1:30pm Eastern Time. <br /><br />This case and the Manson case are the only cases I've ever followed so closely.<br /><br />When the Manson trial was going on, I was in High School. Of course back then, it wasn't on TV like it is now. I just kept up with it in the paper.<br /><br />I wish I'd kept all those articles. WOW. What a gold mine! LOL.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-45062894959293160502011-07-03T12:41:29.503-04:002011-07-03T12:41:29.503-04:00I found out today that the prosecution says final ...I found out today that the prosecution says final arguments first, then the defense can have their say, and afterward, the prosecution has final rebuttal.<br /><br />I didn't know that. Interesting. I was thinking that the jury will probably listen to the last words more than the first, so I'm glad the prosecution will speak last.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-49665025347246064972011-07-03T12:38:49.169-04:002011-07-03T12:38:49.169-04:00Do I think she'll be convicted?
I'm not...Do I think she'll be convicted? <br /><br />I'm not sure. Lots and lots of emotions going on in this case.<br /><br />I think the jury will come back with a guilty verdict. There are just too many loose ends dangling in this case for Casey to have any credence. But I really doubt they will give her the death penalty. If they do, I'll really be shocked. <br /><br />I think given her young age and the fact that she obviously has mental problems, they will probably give her life in prison.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-5925374789228839702011-07-03T12:35:14.596-04:002011-07-03T12:35:14.596-04:00Hi Marliese!! I'm glad you're son is on t...Hi Marliese!! I'm glad you're son is on the mend. Surgery on your mouth can be brutal! I could tell you horror stories about getting my wisdom teeth out, but I won't get into that now. HA HA.<br /><br />Well, today is final arguments for the prosecution and defense in the Anthony case. <br /><br />The prosecution finished up this morning, and the defense has started final arguments, and right now they've recessed for lunch. Court will resume at 1:00pm Eastern Time.<br /><br />The prosecution has done a bang up job on this case. Since the body was decomposed when it was found, the M.E. wasn't able to determine cause of death.<br /><br />The prosecution has maintained that Casey Anthony was a selfish sociopath, who wanted to party, and couldn't have the "beautiful life" (she had that tattooed on her body after Caylee disappeared) with a toddler holding her back. PLUS....Casey is a pathological liar, and the prosecution states that since Caylee was 2 years old (almost 3) and she was beginning to verbalize effectively, that she was in Casey's way because she could reveal all of her lies.<br /><br />Thus....she had to go. Casey did internet searches for chloroform and they think she put Caylee to sleep with it, and then duct taped her mouth and nose to kill her. Then she had her in the trunk of her car, all the while lying to her mother about where she was, day after day, for a MONTH. <br /><br />I won't go into all her lies, that would take up about 20 comments. HA HA. But, today is the last day, then the jury will go into deliberations. Hopefully, they'll have a verdict by tomorrow. They can assess the penalty, but I believe the judge can override it if he wants to.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-72879158721464128142011-07-03T12:18:37.806-04:002011-07-03T12:18:37.806-04:00Ahhhhh...Katie. The calvary!! LOL. You have an ...Ahhhhh...Katie. The calvary!! LOL. You have an aura here, Katie, and it's filled with terrific energy. <br /><br />Thanks for the support for my son's ordeal too. No, nothing serious...oral surgery for orthodontic treatment. A bit unexpected though because the ortho referred us with 'this will be nothing, a quick five minute procedure'. After consult with the oral surgeon, reality was more than 45 minutes of full on IV sedation, altogether more than expected...so he had a rough two days, but there is such amazing healing ability at his young age, so now it's about keeping him in rest mode for a few more days while he'd rather be surfing. :)<br /><br />Casey Anthony, you and Mary have me into it now! What's up with the weekend court? Is it because the jury is sequestered? i'm coming into it late. I do like that judge...sent that smart ass kid to jail, good for him...you're not going to disrespect my court.<br /><br />Think she'll be convicted of first degree?Marliesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920353129039798997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-80605447517540304152011-07-03T07:09:06.614-04:002011-07-03T07:09:06.614-04:00Lynn said...
I had friends who had lived in Phil ...Lynn said...<br /><br />I had friends who had lived in Phil Kaufman's old house. Phil had a Gram Parsons party where he had liquor bottles printed with Gram Parsons picture on the bottle<br /><br />Mr Poirot replies:<br /><br />Phil seemed to feel the need to ingratiate himself to people like Gram and Keith Richards. He called himself a professional nanny to the stars. I don't think he helped Gram because he catered to Gram's dangerous cravings. Gram died quicker than most from drugs.MrPoirothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155552886069024565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-5024056082417161542011-07-03T03:52:42.613-04:002011-07-03T03:52:42.613-04:00This comment has been removed by the author.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-44451486417200645562011-07-03T02:50:10.205-04:002011-07-03T02:50:10.205-04:00Marliese!!!
Here comes the calvary!!!
TAG!!!
I&...Marliese!!!<br /><br />Here comes the calvary!!!<br /><br />TAG!!!<br /><br />I'm about to "give up the ghost". Then comes Marliese!!!<br /><br />I agree with EVERYTHING she says.<br /><br />I'm gonna go to bed.... <br /><br />Okay<br /><br />tomorrow (or maybe now) I'm gonna turn into Nancy Grace.<br /><br />HA HA.katie8753https://www.blogger.com/profile/00353364961453501063noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-15345120934759604432011-07-03T00:27:44.775-04:002011-07-03T00:27:44.775-04:00MrPoirot said...
Charlie tried to get others to do...MrPoirot said...<br />Charlie tried to get others to do his work for him. His mother said that about him as a child that he never did chores. He even brags that he doesnt have to do anything in prison yet he doesn't seem to realize that nobody cares if he does anything or not. Charlie thinks he's getting over on everybody by not doing any work.<br /><br /><br />So true. From what we know of him, he's always been lazy, didn't have the discipline with the music, couldn't stand being told what to do, had a way of getting others to do work for him...the pimping, having others steal for him, sponging from others for housing, food, drugs, money, services etc. He went to Gary's, sliced his face...not his fault Bobby couldn't get any money out of him without killing him, right? He rounded up Tex and a few girls and sent them out of Spahn Ranch on the night of August 8, 1969 to do something witchy, saw Leno on the sofa, got Tex and depending who we believe they get the victims tied up...he once said in a parole hearing "i never tied anyone up", he tells the girls do what tex tells you, takes off, if we believe Linda, asks her know anyone we oughta kill? yeah, I do, they go to the guy's place, he takes off again. Then there's Clem stabbing Shorty in the heart. I wonder if he thought he was outsmarting everyone...that there'd be nothing on him while the others got their hands filthy dirty. How wrong he was, if that's what he thought.<br />One thing that's consistent is his ability to get others to do work for him, and his laziness.Marliesehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01920353129039798997noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-88724857417124430532011-07-02T23:28:20.804-04:002011-07-02T23:28:20.804-04:00Charlie tried to get others to do his work for him...Charlie tried to get others to do his work for him. His mother said that about him as a child that he never did chores. He even brags that he doesnt have to do anything in prison yet he doesn't seem to realize that nobody cares if he does anything or not. Charlie thinks he's getting over on everybody by not doing any work.MrPoirothttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06155552886069024565noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-6001083595175224919.post-91153929807098895912011-07-02T23:06:42.097-04:002011-07-02T23:06:42.097-04:00Katie 8753 said:Right on again Starship. If Sandy ...Katie 8753 said:Right on again Starship. If Sandy was on the side of the road selling tomatoes, and claimed they were organic, I would buy ONE, and then throw it in her FACE!!!<br /><br />That's how much I trust her. HA HA.<br /><br />Right and I would do the same to Vincent Bug with his book. That´s how much I trust him.v717https://www.blogger.com/profile/16151778818005966430noreply@blogger.com