Tuesday, July 2, 2019

Well I'm not sure where this is leading, but it's a Tarentino film and mentions Sharon Tate, Manson and The Family.

I'm assuming it will mention more.  I think I will go see it.  Let me know what you think!


44 comments:

katie8753 said...

Okay I'm gonna teach y'all how to do the Twist!

Put your left leg behind your body and the right leg in front of your body. Move the left foot like you're squishing a bug. Squish, Squish, Squish. Then move your right foot like you're squishing a different bug.

Keep squishing. Then move your hands in an up and down motion in front like you're milking an invisible cow.

Then do a Pas de bourrée, jump twice and land on your feet, facing your partner.

Keep doing this until you're tard, or until people think you're boring, whichever comes first.

sunset77 said...

I watched part of a horror movie tho other day, they showed on the news the Manson family being arrested like it was just happening, they walked out on the street and I noticed an 1972 Pontiac Bonneville. I recognized it because I had a 1972 Bonneville, (same color). How a 1972 car teleported back to 1969, I'm not really sure.

1969 was a big year. The Orioles lost to the "Amazin" Mets in the World Series, I was an Orioles fan, went to a game that year. Nixon was the President, who later said "I am not a crook", even as a kid I was pretty sure he was a crook. Armstrong walked on the moon. The Vietnam was was in full swing, the Beatles were doing what they did, and of course it was the year of "Helter Skelter".

The video in this post apparently shows the scene in that old movie where Sharon Tate fell and exposed her underwear, I don't think that was a coincidence in that movie, or this one. IMDB has a video talking about "Once Upon A Time in Hollywood"--IMDB

Destroyer of Opinions said...

Of course, Helter Skelter was only a Beatles song. The preposterous Helter Skelter theory is as credible as the LAPD framing theory in the OJ trial.

Mon Durphy said...

This movie has been in the works for awhile, DiCaprio plays aging actor Rick Dalton who has lived on Cielo Dr for quite some time, he's having trouble adjusting from the Hollywood of Western films and TV shows to current say 1969 Hollywood, Roman and Sharon move in next door and I'm not sure how things go from there, I know Brad Pitt plays DiCaprios stunt double and is happy living the relatively quiet life in his trailer in Van Nuts, from what I can tell from the preview Pitt picks up one of the girls in Hollywood hitchhiking and takes him back to Spahn where he meets Charlie and the rest of the group, from what I understand the end is very different from the real life murders, supposedly Sharon, Jay and the others are kidnapped and brought back to Spahn and fight their way out with the help of......Bruce Lee lol, I've heard the end is the typical Taratino graphic violence

Mon Durphy said...

Goddamn I hate how you can't fucking edit posts, it's REALLY fucking annoying, I meant Van NUYS above not Van Nuts

katie8753 said...

I like Van Nuts better Mon!!! It makes more sense! HA HA HA HA HA!!!

Typical Tarantino. I tried to watch Pulp Fiction. That movie just bounced around from scene to scene. It made my head hurt trying to figure it out.

katie8753 said...

Hey y'all, I was watching Brian Davis's show the other day and one of the things he was focusing on was the blood on the porch.

As you all know, I'm pretty conservative on the overall conclusion of the "why" of these murders, but I've gotta say, I agree with Brian on the fact that Sharon's body and Jay's body had to be on the front porch. At some point. There's way too much pooled blood on the porch that matches their blood types.

Whether that means they were killed on the porch and moved into the living room, or killed in the living room and moved to the porch, and then moved back into the living room, I'm not sure.

It makes more sense to me that they were killed on the front porch, and then moved into the living room, but that doesn't match what the killers said.

Let's discuss!!!

katie8753 said...

In China do they say "Chinese food again?" every time they have dinner? Gross! Too much MSG! How does that work?

Mon Durphy said...

To me it's important that both blood types OM and O-MN were found which is both Sharon and Jay's vlood

starviego said...

There appears to have been a fair amount of blood on the porch, so whoever left it was still alive at the time. (dead people don't have blood pouring out of their bodies)

Bobby said...

Dead deer seem to be able to bleed out after death, especially if you move them. Just saying.

sunset77 said...

It seems to me Frykowski was killed on the porch of that house, he was apparently shot and stabbed a number of times. If I remember, there is a photo of Susan Atkins bare foot print right in the middle of the blood. I would guess the killers were covered in blood and were traipsing all over the crime scene. I wouldn't be surprised if they found blood from any of the victims in any area. Blood can be transferred from one place to another pretty easily.

Does Brian Davis still have that radio show? I used to look forward to that. He had very good guests. I remember when he interviewed Max Baer Jr. (Jethro), and I think Paul Crockett. Maybe Stephanie Schramm. I think she said Manson gave her a hose clamp for a wedding ring. I bet she was thrilled.

Mon Durphy said...

Brian did a program the other day, he does one these days about once every 3 months or so and they're usually impromptu but they're all informative and very good as opposed to the other circus freak who puts up a YouTube live feed every other day screaming his horrible voice into a mic, drinking beer and smoking pot the whole time

Mon Durphy said...

Sunset that just the tip of the iceberg of major TLB figures Brian has interviewed, his Bill Garretson interview itself you could listen to 50 times and still not get through half the content in there and that was with Cats being annoying and interrupting Bill every couple of minutes, I really hope Brian gives some thought to resuming the program more often

sunset77 said...

Thanx for that Mon Durphy. However, Bill Garretson is a kook. I remember when he was going around talking about "Rosie Tate Polanski". I think the questions and answers to his original polygraph are posted online. As far as I'm concerned, nearly everything he's said after that, since 1969, has been nonsense.

I'll have to see if I can find that Brian Davis radio page again. I listened to nearly all the original shows, I guess maybe 2 years ago when it was him and I think, "the lovely LC" if I remember correctly.

beauders said...

More books coming out this summer are "Savage Appetites: Four Stories of Women, Crime, and Obsession" by Rachel Monroe released on August 20, 2019. This should be of interest to Katie as it has a section of Alisa Statman and seems critical of her. The next one is by Ivor Davis and is titled "Manson Exposed: A Reporters 50 Year Journey Into Madness and Murder."

katie8753 said...

Thanks Beauders! Critical of Statman? How could anyone be critical of Statman? HA HA!

Destroyer of Opinions said...

I’ve got a document by Carrie Leonetti that claims that Manson was railroaded. However, it suggests that he should’ve been in a mental institution after 1970.

starviego said...

I doubt that Charlie was clinically mad.

Mon Durphy said...

Charlie had most of the hallmark signs of schizophrenia, I read an article a psychiatrist wrote on it based on his statements, behahvoirs, etc, the way he laid it out it was pretty obvious, one of biggest mysteries of the trial for me was any first year law student defending any of the killers should have done was make a move to separate their clients trial from the rest of them and enter an insanity plea, take Atkins for example and the things she said in her interview with Caruso and Caballero, it was obvious she was mentally ill and if she'd have allowed Caballero or Caruso to represent her they'd have done that and she'd have probably been out in 10 years

Bobby said...

Seems I read that same statement somewhere.

beauders said...

Katie, what is it about Statman that you dislike so much? I'm pretty obsessed myself but would never insert myself in the Tate family, if that's your problem with her I agree.

katie8753 said...

Beauders, that's just one problem. She made friends with Altobelli just to get her hands on items that belonged to Sharon and to embellish herself to Patti Tate.

But that book she wrote, Restless Souls, is full of lies and made up stuff that's completely unprovable.

One of the lies she wrote about was she said that Stephen Kay was confronted by Pat Krinwenkel in a prison parking lot and she threatened him, and when Kay was interviewed by Brian Davis, he denied that ever happened. Which is what I thought.

There were also many incidences in her book in which she put "thoughts" into someone's head and specified that as truth, when it was nothing but her imagination.

Have you read her book? She made Paul Tate out to be some kind of Clint Eastwood/Charles Bronson/James Bond kinda guy. He was ordering people around in that book like he was the head of the CIA.

And then, she told us what Sharon was thinking during the murders. How dare she? How in the world would she know what Sharon was thinking?

I just think she's a big fake hanger-on phony!

beauders said...

Katie was it worth the time to read Alice LaBianca’s book, would I learn anything important?

katie8753 said...

Sorry, I didn't read Alice LaBianca's book so I don't know if it was any good or not.

I would like to read a book about Rosemary LaBianca. She was an interesting character.

Destroyer of Opinions said...

katie8753, have you read "Eye of the Beholder: the Wrongful Conviction of Charles Manson" by Carrie Leonetti?

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Starviego,

Please check your email's inbox.

Thank You,

LS

katie8753 said...

No Destroyer I haven't read that, but it looks like Lynyrd just posted some or all of it in a new thread. I'll read it when I get a chance. Thanks!

Mon Durphy said...

Talking her way into living in the Cielo guesthouse is one thats pretty creepy, stealing photos and documents from Earl Deemers house is another

katie8753 said...

Yeah she was pretty creepy. I think she used Patti's daughter to write this book, and almost completely excluded Debra. Think about it.

sunset77 said...

There was an article on yahoo last night that said the LaBianca house was for sale. I think they want an incredible amount of money for it.

beauders said...

Katie, you said in a previous post that Alice LaBianca had nothing good to say about her former husband so I assumed you read her book. Oops.

katie8753 said...

Beauders, I probably based that on something I read that someone else said. They were divorced, and I think he was a gambling addict.

Sorry to mislead you. I actually don't remember saying that, but if that was years ago, I don't remember a lot of things. LOL.

I've stopped a lot of my drinking. I quit whiskey back in 2005 and I quit Vodka back in 2009 or 2010. I know people are supposed to remember their anniversaries but I'm not people.

I'll do the list of apologies. Step 7.

katie8753 said...

Bobby!! I forgot to say hi to you Sugar!!! Smooch!

katie8753 said...

Sunset they're asking $1.9 million for that house. But it is California where housing is outrageous now.

I think Leno bought that house for $200. Just kidding.

Here it is on Zillow. It's come a long way from having Helter Skealter written on the fridge.

https://www.zillow.com/homes/3311-Waverly-Dr-Los-Angeles,-CA,-90027_rb/20749229_zpid/

katie8753 said...

Tex took a shower there. BRRRRR. I wouldn't touch that house with a 10 foot pole.

In Texas, you have to reveal anything that was heinous in a house you're selling. I don't know about CA.

It's funny, they changed the address of the LaBianca House and they tore down the Cielo Drive house and changed the address too.

Do they think changing the address really matters?

beauders said...

Katie don't worry about it, I'm glad you're taking better care of yourself, it probably means the world to your sons.

Harold Twue said...

https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2019-07-16/la-me-manson-house-killing-for-sale

katie8753 said...

Thanks Beauders. You're sweet!!!

Thanks Harold. Evidently under CA law you have to disclose a death in the house within the last 3 years. I think in Texas, it's if it ever happened.

I personally don't care how much that house has changed. The thought of Leno lying there with a knife in his throat or Rosemary lying in the bedroom trying to crawl with stab wounds in her back, or Tex taking a shower in that bathroom, just gives me the willies!

Anyone who makes an offer on that house has evidently not been truly informed about what happened in that house.

CarolMR said...

I know I'll love the music in this movie, just not sure about the movie. Don't understand why they would change the "ending." I saw pics of the LaBianca house. Too much money for a house that has been tainted by so much violence. The house itself looks too much like a hodge-podge and there's way too many tile floors! Incredible view, though.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Hi Carol!

CarolMR said...

Hi, Lynyrd!

revatron said...

Absolutely incredible.
If you have any reservations about seeing this movie, throw them out the window!
Go, go now.

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