Wednesday, February 1, 2017

For my Democratic friends...

Bill Clinton's 1995 State of the Union immigration comments

35 comments:

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Bill Clinton says it, and everyone gives him a standing ovation.

Donald Trump says the same thing, and he's called a racist.

katie8753 said...

Good clip Lynyrd!!! Bravo!!! He did the same thing Trump did, but the liberal left just tries to make Trump look bad.

But Clinton had that plastic Kennedy hair look, which made all the girls like him.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

As I always say, the Democrats weren't as far left, in past decades.
And, this is proof.

There were even Pro-life Democrats, if you go back far enough.

I've always been registeted as an "Independent" .
I didn't become a staunch Republican, until the Democrats completely lost their marbles.

katie8753 said...

Oh BTW, Bruce Davis got a parole recommendation again today. The way California is so messed up, they may just hoist him on their shoulders and march him out of there.

We'll see....

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

One can only guess...

beauders said...

The guy who cuts my hair told me that Manson died from a self inflicted knife slash across his neck and had left a suicide note. He was supposedly found in his cell even though I have been hearing for the last 6 months or so he was living in the prison hospital, so I was skeptical. I looked it up on the web and it is just another hoax going around. I would doubt Manson even has the strength to slash his own throat. Maybe Tex should come a visiting and show Manson how it's done. Also this is for Lynyrd and/or Katie, most of the 9/11 hijackers were from Saudi Arabia, so why is it that Saudi Arabia is not on the list? I suspect it is because Donald Trump does business with Saudi Arabia and with the Royal Family, the house of Saud. We don't hear a lot about Saudi Arabia but the women are not only the property of the fathers and husbands they are not allowed an education or the right to drive. Homosexuals are thrown off buildings or burned at the stake. Lesbians don't exist because women don't have enough freedom to even talk among themselves let alone to form friendships. It is a horrible country and if the U.S. is going to penalize countries for terrorist activity then Saudi Arabia should be at the top of the list. They are terrorizing half the population of their own country. Now I am going back to the kitten cams on youtube, everyone is much happier over there.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Good question Beauders.
I agree, that Saudi Arabia sucks.
I'd have no problem at all, adding Saudi Arabia to the "go fuck yourself" list (myself), but alas, I'm not the President.

You'd have to ask Donald Trump that question directly, or do your own research on the matter.

I have no idea...

katie8753 said...

Beauders, President Trump is using the Obama map to target certain countries to make sure that terrorists don't come into this country. Saudi Arabia will be added to it, don't worry.

Sleep tight hon. You are protected!!! :)



katie8753 said...

Beauders, E pluribus unum. I'm not sure what that means, but I think it means something good.

Eeeep-slay ight-tay! That's pig latin for "sleep tight".

Night Beauders, and night y'all!

beauders said...

Katie, to tell you the truth I don't feel too safe right now. I keep having dreams where I am the victim of severe gay bashings. I have been assaulted before for being gay but that was in the 80's. I thought my fears were long gone but I guess not.

katie8753 said...

Beauders, I'm sorry you feel that way. The only hate mongering, breaking windows, setting fires and assaulting people I've seen is coming from the liberal left.

Bobby said...

katie8753 said...
Beauders, I'm sorry you feel that way. The only hate mongering, breaking windows, setting fires and assaulting people I've seen is coming from the liberal left.

Beauders, I really believe with all my heart that Katie is right about this. Being a staunch conservative and finding the liberal progressive group as disgusting. I would never have and did not behaved as the left is with the Trump win when Obama won. Neither did all the other so called phobo etc right wingers. Nothing of the sort happened when Obama won. If we are all such scarry hatefull people why didn't we go nuts in the streets when Obama ? I thing I'm just a normal person and don't hat based on any of the things that the left seem to hare and go bonkers against,

Anyway nothing but love for all from here so carry on.

Bob.

beauders said...

First I'm not protesting, I accept that Trump is going to President for at least four more years. I don't think the average Republican's are going to bash anyone either. It is the crazies who think well Trump isn't letting certain Muslim's into the country so I think I'll go burn the local mosque down and they do it. Just last summer 49 people at a gay club were murdered by one of those crazies, yes he was Muslim but he was born in New York. A lot of Christians came out to say that they were glad gays were killed and called for more deaths. I saw one that was preaching this in Sacramento. Yes, they were the radicals, but they do influence the crazies. Trump is influencing the crazies. Like I said I have been assaulted twice. I had a cup of coffee thrown on me and was punched in the face because I am gay. I survived. I am fearful though that we are going to go back to the bad old days like the 80's were. I knew I was gay from a very young age in a very homophobic family. All I heard about gays and lesbians were bad and negative. I have to say I hated myself for many, many years until I realized I wasn't going to change and I only had one life to live and accepted myself. Suicide was a constant thought. I don't want any kids in the same position to feel that way. The conservative climate in the country right now is scaring me for those kids.

katie8753 said...

Beauders, I'm sorry that you're scared, but I think you live in the northwest, and it's a very liberal area up there.

I've been scared for 8 years under Obama, that my religious freedoms were being stolen from me. And the reality is, my money is still being stolen from him because I'm paying the penalty for not having healthcare, which according to him is affordable, but in my reality, it's still not affordable, I guess because I'm not dirt poor or super rich.

You say Christians said that they were glad gays were killed, and I say, they aren't Christians. They must be paganists, because a Christian wouldn't be glad ANYONE was killed. Well, except maybe terrorists. LOL.

Donald Trump is going to make this country safer and better for all of us, including those who didn't vote for him. He's trying really hard to make things happen, and he's getting thwarted by Liberal Democrats and others who just don't like him.

Just give him a chance. I think you'll be able to finally relax and realize that he's not the enemy the liberal left wants you to think he is. And BTW, the anger is coming from the left and generating to the right. That anger is inevitable, but eventually it will stop.

I hope you have a good evening, and a good night's sleep!!!

beauders said...

Thanks Katie, I consider you a friend and hope you feel the same about me.

beauders said...

P.S. I accept all types of belief including Christianity, as long as you don't use it to hurt others. I have a friend who is Jehovah Witness believe it or not.

katie8753 said...

Beauders I consider you a friend too. I've blogged with you for years now, and I've never known you to be anything but accepting and loving! And I'm looking forward to reading your book!!

Sleep tight!

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Well Beauders...

Unfortunately, the door swings both ways.

Early-on in the election process, I was still gathering information about the candidates, in order to make my final voting decision(s).

Unlike most voters, I try to listen to all the candidates, before casting my vote.

Donald Trump was holding a rally about an hour from my house.
I really wanted to go.
I just wanted to hear what he had to say, first-hand.

With all the vandalism, protests, and violence being perpetrated wherever Trump went... I just didn't feel safe attending.

I figured... at a minimum, a mob could block traffic, and destroy my car.
At a maximum, I could be shot to death inside the arena... or trampled to death.

I explained this situation to a long-time Democratic friend of mine.
His exact response was:
"If you attend a Trump rally and you get hurt or killed, you're just getting what you deserve".

Honestly... I was floored.
I've known this guy for 20 years.

It was at that very moment, that I decided to vote Republican.

The thing is... by forcing me to boycott Trump's visit (due to fear of personal harm), the Liberals had stripped me of my legal right, to fully participate in our election process.
That's a big "No-No" for me.

Furthermore:
I was also disgusted, that neither Clinton, Sanders, or even Obama, had made any real effort to halt such behavior.
They could have put a major dent in the protests, vandalism, and danger (present at Trump rallies), if they had simply spoken-out against such behavior forcefully.

My father fought for this country in WWII, and I've paid taxes my entire life.

I have EVERY RIGHT to participate FULLY in our election process... vote for ANY candidate of my choice... and celebrate the election results (if my candidate wins), without being intimidated by a mob.

When my right to participate in the election process was INFRINGED by the Liberal Democrats, it was at that VERY moment, that I knew I could no longer vote for a Democratic candidate.

I can't support a party which perpetrates and condones intimidation, and obstruction of my rights.

Continued…

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Part 2:

Do you know why the polls were so inaccurate this year??
Because many Trump supporters were too intimidated, to admit their political preference.

Some fun stats:
In most election years, only 3-4% of people polled, say they are "still undecided" towards the end of the election process.
This year, as many as 12% of respondents said they were "still undecided", right up to the day of the election!
Guess what?
Those "undecided voters" were all Trump supporters, who felt too intimidated and stigmatized, to state their preference.

Trump supporters who put "Trump" stickers on their car, were at risk of becoming the victim of a hate crime
Trump supporters who put "Trump" signs on their front lawn, were at risk of becoming the victim of a hate crime.
Trump supporters who wore a "Make America Great Again" hat, were at risk of becoming the victim of a hate crime.

That's precisely why, I did NONE of those things...

But guess what?
I did VOTE for Trump, when I got inside the sacred voting booth.

You see... the mob intimidation tactics CAN work OUTSIDE of the voting booth... but INSIDE the voting booth, smart voters, vote AGAINST such obstructions to our election process.

EVEN NOW...
I wouldn't encourage any Trump supporter to venture into any inner-city, and openly support Trump... or even wear a "Trump" hat.
You'd definitely be placing yourself in danger.

So Beauders... who the "crazies" are, depends on which side of the fence you're on.

FYI-
To even imply that Republicans are somehow responsible for the "Pulse" Nightclub shootings, is ludicrous.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

For the record:

I honestly believe, that marriage is between one man, and one woman... period.
That's always been my religious belief, and it always will be... and I have a right to it.
I don't offer any apologies or explanations, for my personal religious beliefs.

Having said that, I would never approve of, or condone, the harassment, intimidation, or mistreatment of homosexual people.

While I believe that homosexual behavior is wrong from a religious standpoint, two wrongs never make a right.

Harassing people to make a religious point, is simply stupid, wrong and counter-productive.

Folks who mistreat homosexuals (or anyone for that matter), under the flag of "religion", are simply ridiculous.

beauders said...

Lynyrd, I am sorry you felt like you were in danger and I agree Trump supporters should not disclose who they voted for in any major city, including Portland, Oregon where I live. I don't agree with strong arm tactics on the right or the left. I believe in kindness and tolerance for everyone, because it seems to be what's lacking, especially now. Also I know you are Catholic and assumed that you do not believe in gay marriage, so that is no surprise and I am not offended. My family is conservative and Catholic also. Everyone is allowed to believe what they like in my book, it's when they try to harm others that I have a problem with. I realize that what happened at The Pulse Nightclub was the work of one very sick Radical Muslim and conservatives and Republicans had nothing to do with it. Every day I am grateful that I live in a country where I am free to be who I am and do not live in the hell that is for example the Middle East. My fear though is that we are going to go backwards socially. Gay people have existed in all societies and in all times. For me it is biological not a choice, like I said before my family is Catholic and it took many years for them to become tolerant. I didn't mean any offense on July 4th or today. Can I ask though do you think I'm going to Hell when I die? Please be honest because I have never been able to ask a modern Catholic that question and am curious. If you knew my real name you would recognize it as I'm named after a Saint.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Beauders asked:
"Can I ask though do you think I'm going to Hell when I die? Please be honest because I have never been able to ask a modern Catholic that question and am curious. If you knew my real name you would recognize it as I'm named after a Saint."


Wow Beauders,

That's a really heavy question.

I'm truly flattered that you think enough of me, to even ask such a monumental question.

The fact is... I'm in no position to pass judgement on anyone.

I'm not even sure where to start... but, here's a few random thoughts:

One's relationship with God, is a very personal thing.

Only God knows for sure, whether a person is deserving of heaven or hell (upon their death), because only God can see into the hearts and minds of men/women.

I truly believe, that a person's motivations for their actions, are often more important, than the actions themselves.

What I mean is...
I believe that two people could commit the same "sin", but one may be held less accountable, due to their mental and emotional state, the motivation(s) for their actions... and a whole variety of other factors (which only God could know).

Taken to the extreme, I believe that a person could even commit murder, and be forgiven by God, depending upon many factors.
Were they of sound mind? Are they remorseful? etc.

Case in point:
I worked with a Lesbian years ago.
She was very nice, and a lot of fun.
We became very close friends.
She actually asked me out on a date, at one point.
At that point, I asked her why she had been dating women for several years, if she was open to dating men.
She told me straight-up, that she was afraid of men.
I never probed further... but one could easily guess, why a woman might be afraid of men.
It's possible, that she was abused in some way... that was my guess.
Evidently, she felt comfortable enough around me, to take that chance.
We dated for a while... decided to stay friends, and then lost touch, after we both left that job.
To this day, I don't know if she resumed her homosexual lifestyle afterwards.

The point of that long story:
If she was in some way abused by a man... and as a consequence, became afraid of men... and as a consequence, decided to date women, so she didn't have to spend the rest of her life completely alone (because loneliness is a tough thing), I believe that God would certainly take all those factors into consideration, come judgement day.
Bottom line... she might make it into heaven before me, because I'm a sinner too.

I could go on for pages... but, the short answer to your question Beauders, is No.
I do not believe that a homosexual person is definitely going to hell.

Only God knows a person's inner struggles, motivations, mental states, emotional states, proclivities, background experiences, etc.

I believe performing homosexual acts is a sin.
If you were my daughter, I would see it as my duty (as a Catholic) to tell you that directly.
If I failed to give you that honesty as a parent, I would feel that I was doing you a disservice, and sinning myself.

There are sins of commission... those are the things that we do wrong... but there are ALSO sins of OMISSION... and those are the things that we fail to do.
If I failed to tell you the truth, God would hold it against me.

I'm an old man, and my mother STILL tells me it's a sin, if I miss Mass on Sunday... and I know she's right.

I hope that helps...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I wish you the best Beauders.
You're a good egg.

beauders said...

Thanks Lynyrd and I want the best for you too. Hopefully Trump can at least fix the economy, a lot of people are really suffering. I look at the increase of homelessness here and just shudder.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

On a totally different note:

If my New England Patriots win today, Tom Brady will be the only Quarterback in NFL history to win 5 Super Bowls... and Bill Belichick, will be the only Head Coach in history, to do the same.

I hope the Pats win today, so Brady and Belichick can make history.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Hi Beauders,

I think every adult American with eyes and ears, is worried about their personal and national security.

I've had a lot of violence in my immediate area.
Twice in the past year, we've had murders perpetrated at the local malls.
People are killing complete strangers in public places, for absolutely no reason.
We even had a home invasion, in which two women were brutally stabbed to death.
These aren't radical Islamic situations either... they're simply local cases of homegrown Americans who are nuts.

Every day on the news, there's violence being perpetrated with little reason or explanation.

Any time large groups of people gather in one spot, it becomes a possible target.
Schools, airports, night clubs, sporting events, malls, churches, even movie theaters, have become dangerous places.

Then of course... there's the whole "Radical Islamic Terrorism" thing, which is a constant dark cloud hanging over us.
It's real.

On an international note, third world countries (that we've had strained relations with for decades), are now developing nuclear weapons!
That's a comforting thought, huh?

As for Trump... I believe the jury is still out.

I believe Obama was a bit too lenient regarding foreign relations.
If you overlook everything, you become the world's door mat.
We need to be more aggressive, in that area.

By the same token, if you're too aggressive, you can land yourself in the midst of a major war.

Trump does worry me, in that area.
I like that he's assertive (we definitely need some of that), but too much of anything, is a bad thing.
Hopefully, he'll have the common sense to taper his aggressive foreign policy at some point, before we're exchanging nuclear missiles with other nations.

I'm pretty sure, that Trump isn't a complete fool, and he fully understands that concept.

But ultimately, any time we cast a vote, to some extent, it's a roll of the dice.

Time will tell...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

We've had major domestic problems in this country (regarding personal safety), long before Trump even thought about running for office... i.e., school shootings, etc.

With all the discord over the election, things have become even more dangerous.
It's just one more burning fire, that just won't go out.

I really believe, that the best thing the Democrats could do (for our nation) at this point, is just take a year off.
(And that includes the media, who keep fanning the flames).

Take a year off... let things cool down, see how things are going, and then make decisions from there.

We've had tons of needless violence in this country for years... and it's been getting steadily worse.
We've had Radical Islamic Terrorism on our ass for years... and, it's been getting steadily worse.
We've got major tensions with dangerous foreign nations... and it's been getting steadily worse.

Do we really need more division and violence amongst Americans, along political lines?

Trump is dealing with major foreign issues, and he's getting stress at home, from half of his own citizens.

Sometimes in life, you have to step back, look at the big picture, and assess the timing of things.

It's a real bad time, for all this protesting.

Heck... I never agreed with any of Obama's policies.
But, I didn't harass him to the extent, that he couldn't concentrate on his job.

I think the Democrats (and the democratic media) should put all their bullshit on the back-burner for 12 months, until some of this smoke clears.

I highly doubt, that will happen...

Bobby said...


On a totally different note:

If my New England Patriots win today, Tom Brady will be the only Quarterback in NFL history to win 5 Super Bowls... and Bill Belichick, will be the only Head Coach in history, to do the same.

I hope the Pats win today, so Brady and Belichick can make history

I hate you & I mean that in the most loving way possible

Bob.

katie8753 said...

The Patriots are throwing the game. It happens all the time. They're acting like kindergarteners.

It's embarrassing....

katie8753 said...

Wow I was wrong.

katie8753 said...

So sue me...HA HA. GO FI-GYA!!!

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Bob... LOL

That was awesome. haha

Marliese said...

Bobby, Hi! Love seeing your name on a post here...always skip to read you first, then go back. I was hoping the same, for exactly the same reason...an historic win for Brady, and what a game it was...!

Bobby said...

Marliese said...

Marliese, Wow, such a nice thing to say. I really do appreciate it and I really do have a fond love of you Katie & Lynyrd.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Bob you ROCK!
It's always great having you on the blog.