Leslie Van Houten, a/k/a Van Skankston, hires a new attorney every time that last one failed. Where is she getting money for this? Is it pro bono?
They're mostly men. She's like the mythological creature, The Siren, who lures men to watery graves. Ronald Hughes was one who did die a watery death....
Was Lu Lu's attorney treated badly in this interview, or was it completely justified?
Often the periphery characters of a tale are more compelling and a bigger hoot than the central ones. Leave it to the ever-delicious Katie to bring us this one. LuLu as a Siren for Unbalanced Desperados. And I count myself amongst said group. I love it.
Truthfully, Katie, Leslie was never my cup of tea - I was always more of an Ella Jo guy. Though I still lament often that she and Bill Vance didn't just drop a dime after learning of Gary and once they were clear of the family. Think about it - how different our world might be without TLB. Hell, there might still be hippies.
Well I listened to the interview again and took a few notes. First of all, this attorney is basically saying the same thing that her attorneys have been saying for years, i.e., Leslie didn't really know what she was getting into (which is ridiculous), Leslie only stabbed a dead lady (may or may not have been dead, depends on what day you ask, but what difference does that make anyway?), Leslie has been a good girl for 40+ years, yada, yada, yada.
He did introduce something that's new to me though. He claims that when Tex told Leslie "do something" he pointed a bayonet at her. I don't recall that one in previously testimony.
He says that the family members could speak all they wanted, but in Debra's interview, she said the family testimony was cut short. I wasn't there so I don't know the answer to that one.
He, along with his predecessors, complain about Debra being there, and even say her presence is against the rules, but I say this: if it's against the rules, how come she's there???? She says she's representing a member of the LaBianca family and I don't see how that's breaking any rules.
Lastly, in listening to him talk about Leslie, it appears that, along with many other men, he has some kind of feelings for her. That's my impression anyway.
The reason the Tates became involved in victims rights at all was when Steven Kay told Doris there was a petition going around to free Leslie with approximately 3500 signatures and Kay asked Doris to become involved.
Doris gave an interview to the National Enquirer and the petition landed I think 60,000 signatures against Leslie's parole. This was around 1982 or so.
I totally forgot about this until I was reminded by a comment made by Cielo Drive a few days ago. He said no one complained when Doris was involved and so why complain about Debra.
So the Tates have been arguing against Leslie's release for more than 30 years. It was from there that Doris began attending parole hearings and became an advocate for victim's rights.
not to sound like a suck-up, but I am sincerely grateful to know Katie and Lynyrd as well as a number of other folk on this site. The reason I say this now is that recently I met and got to hang out with someone I first encountered on this site and it has been an enormous pleasure spending time with him and discussing TLB, and JFK and Whitey Bulger and a dozen other topics that interest us both. Point is that one might not expect to find such cool folk on a Manson blog but there really are some first class people here. I still daydream that we will all meet up at Charlie's funeral or at the annual reunion of the Witches of Endicino or such. Or maybe just at Lynyrd and Katie's wedding. I say, I say, that's a joke, guys.
Leslie Van Houten hires a new attorney every time that last one failed
During the period from her arrest in '69 until late 1970 in a period of just over a year, she had Donald Barnett, Marvin Part, Ira Reiner, Ronald Hughes and Maxwell Keith.
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There is so much to say in this thread, but I'll start out with this:
He said "if she wants to stab me in the back after I'm dead she can have at it." WOW! Did he really say that???
Where do you find an attorney like that? Usually they just say "keep your mouth shut".
I knew you wrote this Katie before I even looked. You are so funny.
Beauders!!!!!!!!!!!!! LOLOLOL.
Often the periphery characters of a tale are more compelling and a bigger hoot than the central ones. Leave it to the ever-delicious Katie to bring us this one.
LuLu as a Siren for Unbalanced Desperados. And I count myself amongst said group.
I love it.
Leary, you're awesome as usual. Good to see you Mr. Man. Don't let LuLu lead you astray!
LOL.
Sometimes you have to lose yourself, before you find anything.
Sweet yeah. Night y'all!
Truthfully, Katie, Leslie was never my cup of tea - I was always more of an Ella Jo guy. Though I still lament often that she and Bill Vance didn't just drop a dime after learning of Gary and once they were clear of the family. Think about it - how different our world might be without TLB. Hell, there might still be hippies.
Real hippies, not the Wal-Mart kind.
Thanks Leary!
Well I listened to the interview again and took a few notes. First of all, this attorney is basically saying the same thing that her attorneys have been saying for years, i.e., Leslie didn't really know what she was getting into (which is ridiculous), Leslie only stabbed a dead lady (may or may not have been dead, depends on what day you ask, but what difference does that make anyway?), Leslie has been a good girl for 40+ years, yada, yada, yada.
He did introduce something that's new to me though. He claims that when Tex told Leslie "do something" he pointed a bayonet at her. I don't recall that one in previously testimony.
He says that the family members could speak all they wanted, but in Debra's interview, she said the family testimony was cut short. I wasn't there so I don't know the answer to that one.
He, along with his predecessors, complain about Debra being there, and even say her presence is against the rules, but I say this: if it's against the rules, how come she's there???? She says she's representing a member of the LaBianca family and I don't see how that's breaking any rules.
Lastly, in listening to him talk about Leslie, it appears that, along with many other men, he has some kind of feelings for her. That's my impression anyway.
The reason the Tates became involved in victims rights at all was when Steven Kay told Doris there was a petition going around to free Leslie with approximately 3500 signatures and Kay asked Doris to become involved.
Doris gave an interview to the National Enquirer and the petition landed I think 60,000 signatures against Leslie's parole. This was around 1982 or so.
I totally forgot about this until I was reminded by a comment made by Cielo Drive a few days ago. He said no one complained when Doris was involved and so why complain about Debra.
So the Tates have been arguing against Leslie's release for more than 30 years. It was from there that Doris began attending parole hearings and became an advocate for victim's rights.
Thanks Jean. So very true!
This interview gets hilarious. It starts out with "Hi, thanks for joining us!" "My pleasure, good to be here!"
And ends with "Oh yeah, well you're nothing but a *#)*$%/?^!@@*{+(#!
HA HA HA.
Thank You, Jean Harlow.
As always, great to see you Leary.
not to sound like a suck-up, but I am sincerely grateful to know Katie and Lynyrd as well as a number of other folk on this site.
The reason I say this now is that recently I met and got to hang out with someone I first encountered on this site and it has been an enormous pleasure spending time with him and discussing TLB, and JFK and Whitey Bulger and a dozen other topics that interest us both.
Point is that one might not expect to find such cool folk on a Manson blog but there really are some first class people here. I still daydream that we will all meet up at Charlie's funeral or at the annual reunion of the Witches of Endicino or such.
Or maybe just at Lynyrd and Katie's wedding.
I say, I say, that's a joke, guys.
Hello Leary,
From day one, it's been a pleasure knowing you.
Thank You for your great posts and warm friendship.
I wish you the very best always.
Very Sincerely,
Lynyrd
Katie8753 said...
Leslie Van Houten hires a new attorney every time that last one failed
During the period from her arrest in '69 until late 1970 in a period of just over a year, she had Donald Barnett, Marvin Part, Ira Reiner, Ronald Hughes and Maxwell Keith.
Gadzooks !
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