Wednesday, September 30, 2015

Ok, so this is weird:

Animated phone interviews with Charles Manson

http://devour.com/video/conversations-with-charles-manson/

"Old Man" is a curious and compelling animation of phone chats between Charles Manson and Marlin Marynick, author of "Charles Manson Now." Directed and animated by Leah Shore. (via Devour)

98 comments:

Josh Bratt said...

That is cool!!!
People should get past the scary old man stuff and listen to the base of what is being said. It's not far off from truth. People need to wake up and make a better planet for our kids rather than indulging selfish ideals and focusing on self.....
Marlin is a cool guy
PEACE

starship said...

Charlie knows who Oprah is! And they're shooting missiles at the moon!

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

The Roman Catholics have been preaching Helter Skelter for the last 850 years?
Yeah, okay.

On a positive note:
I do like Marlin Marynick though. He's a cool guy.
Also, the person who did the animation, did a really good job.
Anyone who can interpret Charles Manson with real-time sketches and cartoons is pretty talented.

katie8753 said...

Thanks Starship! The cartoons are funny! I like Marynick too.

Off subject for a sec, tonight at 7:00pm Central on Lifetime they're showing tapes made by O. J. Simpson that he recorded, evidently before they picked him up in the Bronco. I think this is all new.

katie8753 said...

It must be hard to interview someone on a prison phone. Only 120 seconds left on this call. Charlie better talk fast.

I have to say, Charlie's funny sometimes.

MrPoirot said...

Modern day Environmentalists are self-loathing antihumanists. Most environmentalists live in big homes that use a lot of electricity. Look at Charlie: see how he lives in the big house too. Environmentalists are phoneys, liars and hypocrits. If nobody is looking knock their teeth out and spit on them.

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Josh Bratt said...

Environmentalists are seeking a better world for their children and future generations and are actually thinking of others rather than themselves. Bitter old people that come on blogs slandering people all day need their teeth knocked out and spit on them......just my opinion though. I'm actually neither of these, so I really don't know much about either, though I see Poirot sharing his witty quips on blogs. :)

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EjmtSkl53h4

sunset77 said...

Interesting animation, it kind of reminded me of Monty Pythons Flying Circus.

Of topic comment. I've watched various politicians useless rhetoric on the TV news all day long concerning guns and the recent school shooting in Oregon. It took me 2 days, but I started to find what I'm looking for concerning Christopher Sean Harper-Mercer:

"He struggled with mental health issues for years and attended a special needs school

A law enforcement source said investigators have learned Mercer had long struggled with mental health issues, beginning when he was a teenager.

He was among five students listed in the graduating class at Switzer Learning Center, according to a special graduation section published by the Torrance-based newspaper, the Daily Breeze, in 2009. The Switzer Learning Center, also in Torrance, teaches students with special needs, emotional difficulties, autism and Asperger's syndrome."

I would estimate the odds of this dude taking some type of mind altering "medicine" that caused him to launch this rampage at about 99%. The police and news talk about what kind of guns he had, how many he had, what type of ammo he had, etc. but there is never any mention of the drugs he was taking that almost certainly caused this attack. The politicians have been passing gun laws for the last 50 years and there is just as many if not more murders now than there ever was. There's a reason for that.

sunset77 said...

P.S. It should have dawned on me yesterday when I was reading Christopher Sean Harper Mercer's blog posts on a website called "Kickass Torrents", (I've used Kickass Torrents myself several times for torrents, I didn't even know they had a blog until yesterday). Mercer's username was "lithium love". Lithium is used as a psychiatric "medication".

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I agree Sunset.
Drugs and death have gone hand-in-hand with mentally deficient human beings for centuries.

But in the old days, these mentally deficient rejects would simply overdose, or commit suicide and leave a pathetic note behind.
Good fucking riddance.

But, why is it now, these idiots have to take 10-20 well-adjusted people along with them?

Are the drugs stronger?
Is this some kind of a sick fad?
Is it the allure of 48 hours of fame?

Mrstormsurge said...

There are actually much fewer gun-related murders now than say 20 years ago. Ive seen stats that say this has decreased since the early 1990s. What seems to be more prevalent are mass shootings of the type seen in Oregon. The Oregon killer did post sympathetic comments about the killer of the newswoman and cameraman in Virginia. The Oregon killer also posted comments about wanting to be well known and that killing the way the Virginia killer killed was a way to gain that. I can certainly subscribe to the idea that what motivated the Oregon killer was similar to what motivated several of these killers: a desire for fame and notoriety by racking up a large body count. There are more means to achieve that notoriety now then ever before (don't forget that the Virginia shooter was putting out the video of the killings and even communicating by the net after the shooting).

On the meds. Lithium tends to be given for bipolar disorder. One BIG problem with many people with this (or other psychiatric disorders)is that they don't take their meds. If he was diagnosed bipolar and was off the Lithium a potential symptom could be reckless impulsive acting out. But this is very speculative, of course.

louis365 said...

Carlin's take on environmentalists is bang on.

"...the planet is fine...the people are fucked."

TomG said...

You probably could pass a gun control law that may or may not prevent another mass shooting, which we all know will happen again, It could be a week or a month, but another Amurican will go bonkers and shoot everyone in his path. That's how you guys roll. And you won't pass any new laws either, because you are con serv atives. They all like to say, I'm a con serv ative. As opposed to saying I'm a Douche Bag.

Myself, I just think you guys are violent and don't know any better. Have at it.

katie8753 said...

Hey Stormy I agree. If they don't take meds the result might be disastrous. But what if they do take meds and the same result? Some of these meds have disastrous side effects.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

If an asshole wants a gun, he'll find one.

There are SO many guns floating around now, even if we didn't manufacture one more gun for the next 100 YEARS, there'd STILL be enough guns to go around (for each and every asshole).

Pass all the laws you want.
If a guy wants a gun, he'll get one.

Drugs have been illegal for decades, and people get them.

Liquor was illegal, and people still found a way to drink.
(In fact, the prohibition of alcohol spawned organized crime).

Novice criminals build effective bombs with parts and ingredients they purchase at hardware stores!
Does the Boston Marathon bombing ring a bell?

"Gun control" may be well-intentioned, and yes, it makes some people FEEL safer, but in reality, it will never stop crime and murder.

If someone is willing to shoot 20 strangers in cold blood, being caught purchasing or carrying an illegal gun is the LEAST of their worries.

I don't own a gun, and I never have.
I probably never will.
So, I have no dog in this fight.
But Gawdammit, exercise some common sense.

Mrstormsurge said...

does any rational person believe that a law preventing a person from getting a gun is going to dissuade someone willing to violate laws that mandate life imprisonment or death for murdering someone?

katie8753 said...

Hey Lynyrd I agree! Gun control is not gonna change this stuff. There's got to be another way!

katie8753 said...

Stormy I agree!

Mrstormsurge said...

people can make their own guns in their home. there are 300,000,000 guns in the us right now. even if the govt can prevent any more sales, they'll never be able to collect all the ones in existence nor stop individuals from making them.

lynyrd is right.

Mrstormsurge said...

katie is right!

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

If there was a law that would prevent these horrendous mass murders from happening, I'd vote for it in a minute.
I just don't see it.

And Stormsurge is right:
Guns would still be produced by amateurs at a high profit.

Drugs are illgeal, and it's big business for those willing to break the law.

Folks made moonshine, and that became a profitable business (for those willing to break the law) as well.

I'm sure a talented machinist could produce an effective gun... and those guns would sell at ridiculously high prices.

When there's money to be made, someone will take the risk.

I DO believe that folks should undergo a very strict background check, before they're able to purchase a gun.
It might help curb violent crime a little bit.
It's a start, but it's certainly not a final solution.

Background checks might curb "impulse killing"... such as a jealous lover, etc.
Maybe...

But for these mental defects who let their anger fester for months, take the time to build homemade bombs, and stage elaborately orchestrated mass murders, forgettaboudit.

TomG said...

I hope nothing I said made anyone to have negative feelings.

But if I did say something that led people towards negative feelings, Well, then, I guess your poor ass has some negative feelings.

Can I send my kids to school and not worry about them getting shot? Isn't that part of being free, that a person doesn't have to worry about the worst thing happening?

I've had it up to here with these assholes that probably lost every fair fist fight they ever were in and hide behind guns as a result.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Tom said:
"I've had it up to here with these assholes that probably lost every fair fist fight they ever were in and hide behind guns as a result."

I agree.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

We all want the same thing... peace and safety for everyone.

It seems we're dealing with a new phenomenon here, and unfortunately, no one knows the answer.
If anyone knew the answer, I'm sure they'd make this madness stop.

When I was a kid, I don't remember people walking into public places... be it schools, movie theaters, sporting events, airports... or anywhere else where people congregate... and opening fire on strangers.

It's a sad state of affairs.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I think this generation is a bunch of pussies (to use Katie's favorite word).

Life is tough.

There's illness, disappointment, death of loved ones, bills, stress... etc., etc., etc.
And yes... the world isn't fair.

And heck... what person was never harassed or picked-on at some point in their life? Everyone encounters and endures a bit of that, in their lifetime.

But in the old days... people were resilient.
They persevered until things improved.
People hung in there, because they knew EVENTUALLY things would get better... because things always do.

Nowadays... these kids crumble like a fucking deck of cards.
They start taking drugs... and they give-up all hope.

Winston Churchill had a saying:
"If you're going through hell, keep going!"

Maybe that's why they called the WWII folks "The greatest generation"

Right now, we're dealing with the "Pussy generation".

And that's the Gods-Honest truth.

These kids today are told (by their parents) that they're going to be rich and famous.
Everyone today is gonna be a "star".
And when the kid finally grows-up and realizes that his/her shit DOES stink... they can't handle it.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Of course, my opinion of today's youth does not solve the problem at hand.

I applaud the brave kids who are daring enough to even attend school, during this time of danger and madness.
I can't even imagine attending school in 2015.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Maybe it's just a small percentage of today's kids who are whacko.
But one thing's for sure, this is happening way too frequently.

MrPoirot said...

DHS = Department of Hoax Shootings.

Josh Bratt said...

Helter Skelter
Confusion reigns
When you got nowhere to go and no one is behind you, what do you do?
Society now raises us all differently and people are getting soft in thinking that their own personal lives and feelings are above all else.
"that guy called me a pussy, so I'm going home to get my gun."
Movies, TV, News shows; there's violence everywhere. Part social brainwash, part unchecked individualism. People should come together in community for the betterment of us all. I believe society brings us up in a manner not close to community. We're raised to reach for "success". "success" is no longer defined by love and family but money and power.
The world is spinning faster and faster and we're just along for the ride. Keep your head down and your spirits up. Help the guy next to you, regardless of opinions, political affiliations or any other superficial/superfluous things.
Love is the answer.
Whats up Lynyrd!!!
You're a bad ass my friend!!
Hello to all others as well, unless you don't like me. Then I'm getting my gun ;)

Josh Bratt said...

oh!!!
There are too many damn people these days too

Mrstormsurge said...

one thing i'd say about the youngest generation

they are very self centered and crave fame for fame's sake

now with social media they have the means - they think - to achieve some form of fame

THIS is a factor in the Oregon shooter, the Newtown shooter and the Virginia shooter

They want very much to be talked about, to be psychologically opined about, to have specials made about them trying to figure them out.

I'm all for not using these losers' names.

Mrstormsurge said...

Lynyrd nailed it better

Josh is right too: love is the answer

katie8753 said...

I'd like to know how these kids are buying all these guns. They're not cheap.

Hey Mr. P, do you think this is a hoax?

katie8753 said...

Stormy I agree. I was watching HLN the other day and a law enforcement officer came on and said they weren't going to mention his name more than once. Personally I can't even remember all these killers names. There are too many of them.

I hope we're not getting desensitized to all this violence.

MrPoirot said...

THIS is a factor in the Oregon shooter, the Newtown shooter and the Virginia shooter
.........................................................................

These three are obvious hoax events. It is very likely that out of the 15 mass shooting/bombing events that Obama addressed personally to the American people that all 15 are fake. People want to believe what they see on TV. People need to wake up
and realize how corrupt the media and government have become. There will be another hoax shooting in two weeks. Will you believe that one too? Will you believe the ones after the next five? When will you wake up?

Look at the thread on falling murder rates in the US just posted by Lynyrd a few weeks ago. The mass shootings are in direct contradiction to the statistics.
You're being hoaxed people!

MrPoirot said...

Sandy Hook- hoax
Aurora- hoax
Charleston- hoax
Roanoke- hoax
Oregon- hoax
Elliot Rogers the Virgin Killer- hoax
There are more...


grimtraveller said...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

"Winston Churchill had a saying:
'If you're going through hell, keep going!'"


While I do have much respect for Churchill and while I actually do agree with the statement, I have to say that from a member of the well to do upper class of England at the time he lived, that was a lot easier for him to say than for someone who really could have been killed by the Nazis, someone who lived in the kind of filth and housing squalor open to many Brits at the time or someone that faced the great depression with no such thing as any social security on the horizon to help you if you had no job !

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Josh said:
"We're raised to reach for "success". "success" is no longer defined by love and family but money and power."

You're absolutely correct, and I agree 100%.

Our shift in priorities, and the world's new definition of "success", has everyone searching for happiness in the wrong place(s).

People are unhappy, because they no longer seek personal fulfillment through love, family and friendship.

People are destined for disappointment in today's world, because their perception of what happiness really is, and how it can be obtained, are flawed.

You're dead-on correct in that statement Josh!

===========================================

Josh said:
"The world is spinning faster and faster and we're just along for the ride. Keep your head down and your spirits up. Help the guy next to you, regardless of opinions, political affiliations or any other superficial/superfluous things.
Love is the answer."


I agree.

We're living in a time, when it's hard to stay focused amid all the fast-moving technology, media, madness, and nonsense.
But, we have to stay grounded.

"Modern people" can't believe it (or understand it), but there's still no substitute for interpersonal relationships.
We'll never invent anything more gratifying to the human spirit than friendship.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Grim said:
"While I do have much respect for Churchill and while I actually do agree with the statement, I have to say that from a member of the well to do upper class of England at the time he lived, that was a lot easier for him to say than for someone who really could have been killed by the Nazis, someone who lived in the kind of filth and housing squalor open to many Brits at the time or someone that faced the great depression with no such thing as any social security on the horizon to help you if you had no job !"

What you're saying is accurate.

But remember, one of Churchill's chief duties was to motivate, inspire and encourage his people during very difficult times.
And one cannot deny, that he was very effective at that task.

Churchill would never be a "commoner" as you say, but his speeches were some of the greatest ever delivered.

===========================================

Churchill:

"But if we fail, then the whole world, including the United States, including all that we have known and cared for, will sink into the abyss of a new dark age made more sinister, and perhaps more protracted, by the lights of perverted science.

Let us therefore brace ourselves to our duties, and so bear ourselves, that if the British Empire and its Commonwealth last for a thousand years, men will still say, This was their finest hour!


Fuck.
I'm not even British and that STILL give me chills!

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Stormsurge said:
"one thing i'd say about the youngest generation
they are very self centered and crave fame for fame's sake
now with social media they have the means - they think - to achieve some form of fame"


I agree.
Every kid nowadays thinks they're going to be the next "Youtube sensation" to go "viral".
Or, the next "star" discovered on a television talent show.
And when it doesn't happen, they fall apart.

It's nice to have dreams... but in yesteryear, dreams were tapered with a healthy dose of realism.

In a real sense, I blame the parents.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I enjoyed this program.
It has a great ending.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=soOm36ZzCwI

MrPoirot said...

The 1936 Berlin Olympics actually occurred. It was a real event.

MrPoirot said...

What would you think if you saw Olympics being staged every three weeks? Would you believe they were genuine? Probably as long as you saw them on tv. If it is on tv it must be real.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Poirot said:
"The 1936 Berlin Olympics actually occurred. It was a real event."

I'm aware of that.

MrPoirot said...

Did you know that Jesse Owens and Hitler did meet each other at those Olympics. Jesse Owens kept a pic in his wallet of the two of them shaking hands. It wasn't on tv though.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I'm not really sure what your point is, Poirot.

Of course, I'm aware that the Berlin Games occurred, and I'm certainly familiar with Jesse Owens and his accomplishments.
That's why I watched the show, in the first place!

What I wasn't aware of, is that Owens himself, hosted and narrated an entire program on the subject.
From beginning to end, Owens is the only person who speaks throughout this entire program.
(Minus of course, the audio/video footage from the 1936 games itself).

The program is comprised of only two things:
Actual footage from the 1936 games, and the voice, image and narration of Owens himself.

I think that makes it pretty credible and interesting.

What more do you want?

Of course, I'm sure you didn't even watch the program that you're criticizing.

ALSO...
I wasn't aware that the Germans invited Owens back to the stadium in 1951, to honor and congratulate him.
That's how the program ends, and I enjoyed it.
(That segment starts at 45:40).

It a good program with a good ending... and since it's entirely narrated by Owens himself, I believe it's accurate.

I don't think Jesse Owens is the type of guy, who would narrate an entire program that's filled with lies.
But, if that's what you think of the man, that's your business.

Owens is a national treasure and icon, and I'll take his word on it.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Sheesh... LOL

Mrstormsurge said...

I will share something. I did my internship at the state psychiatric hospital in Newtown, very close to Sandy Hook Elementary where the shooting took place. I would have been offered a job at the hospital had it not been closing due to state cutbacks. My supervisor is one of the finest men I've ever met and one of the finest doctors I've ever known. I called him post-Newtown shootings and he was helping to counsel the families of victims get through the trauma of the killings. I don't believe he was lying to me. Anyway. That's my two cents on Newtown.

grimtraveller said...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

"one of Churchill's chief duties was to motivate, inspire and encourage his people during very difficult times.
And one cannot deny, that he was very effective at that task.......his speeches were some of the greatest ever delivered"


The British can be a funny bunch. Throughout my childhood, I heard so much about the war and Churchill's inspiring, rousing speeches. Even to this day people will come out with "We won the war !" {without the Russians and the Americans, not to mention the allied effort, including many uncredited nations, I doubt it !} and the history channel is still full of the war and every November controversy rages if someone wears a white poppy or doesn't wear one at all and in a BBC poll a few years back, out of 100 Brits, Churchill was voted by viewers as history's no.1 Brit.
Which is why I was initially flabbergasted, then amused at the sheer brass neck of the population who virtually all acknowledged that Churchill got them through the war, when it came to the general election in 1945, the actual year the war ended, they kicked him and his party out and voted for the socialist Labour party ! Thanks but no thanks Winnie !
Who says history is simply the uninteresting regurgitation of the victor's point of view ?
I find that bizarre yet truly amusing. ☺
It's like a guy gives you $10,000 to save your business from bankruptcy but you won't let him into your house to use the toilet !

MrPoirot said...

Lynyrd my point I that the Olympics are every 4 years. Not every 3 weeks.
Real mass shootings are rare. They don't happen every three weeks like ours do.

If you saw there was another Olympics every 3 weeks would begin to suspect they weren't real Olympics?

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

That's amusing Grim. LOL

Here's what I notice about Americans (and it's very similar):

Americans like change.

They elect a new President, and they get completely stoked and excited.
THIS NEW PRESIDENT is going to solve every problem!

THEN...
By the time the guy leaves office, they turn on him like rabid dogs. LOL
They blame him for every hardship the nation has ever endured.

THEN...
20 years later... he's a fucking hero again!
They speak about the ex-president like he was the greatest man who ever lived. Lmao
He had no faults. LOL

It happens every time.
I've seen the cycle repeat itself a million times... and it's both Democrats and Republicans.

I guess it's just humankind.

We love "hopefuls" and "historical figures"... but the current guy always sucks! LOL!

MrPoirot said...

Stormsurge your buddy at that Newtown hospital was lying to you. He never counseled anybody. Not even once. That hospital wasn't closed from budget cuts either. It was closed from decades of complaints about barbaric patient treatment and bizarre experiments. That hospital had a notorious reputation much like the mental hospital in W Virginia which is abandoned now that Sunset has mentioned many times that used ice picks on brains.

There was no shooter, no victims at Sandy Hook. Only 12 school kids have ever been seen on camera from that day when there was supposedly over 600 there. Evacuation was stated by state police as occurring at 10:36 that day yet an open camera from a police cruiser aimed across the parking lot left on all day long showed no evacuation ever took place.

Remember Columbine? That was a real mass shooting. Look at the videos from that day. There are students everywhere. Hundreds of them. Lots of panicked teachers and students were seen on camera just like there should have been in a real school shooting.
since it was a real event.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Mr Poirot said:
"Lynyrd my point I that the Olympics are every 4 years. Not every 3 weeks.
Real mass shootings are rare. They don't happen every three weeks like ours do.
If you saw there was another Olympics every 3 weeks would begin to suspect they weren't real Olympics?"


Hi Poirot.
I'm honestly having trouble following you.

Are you saying that the majority of mass shootings reported by our news media are not real?

You believe that most of the mass shootings in this country are fictitious and staged?

That's how I'm interpreting you.
If I'm wrong, correct me.

MrPoirot said...

Lynyrd I don't believe for one second you have any trouble following me. I also notice you are putting words in my mouth by suggesting I am talking about all shootings when I have specifically mentioned the 15 in question. Our president has a frantic goal to take all guns from Americans before he leaves office and he is using his own Dept. of Homeland Security to orchestrate the hoax shootings. One of the hoax mass shootings were the Elliot Rogers shootings on the UC Berkley campus. The current UC Berkley school president is Janet Napolitano who was the previous Secretary of Homeland Security under Obama. She ran a hoax shooting on her own campus.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Okay Poirot.
I scrolled back, and now I understand your opinion more specifically...

You have a right to your opinion.

MrPoirot said...

Lynyrd for over a year I truly believed Sandy hook was real. One day I took some time and investigated on my own and after about an hour I realized something was very fishy but I still ignored that suspicion of a con. It was another two months or so before I got another urge to investigate. That is when I knew for sure something was bad wrong. It took over a year for me to realize that that shooting was fake. It was only about 6 months ago I began to see that there were other fakes.

Lynyrd I have predicted the last three mass shootings with accuracy within days and posted them on Brian's web site. It isn't that I'm clarovoyant at all. It is that they follow a similar script. The hoaxes have things in common which are statistically impossible.

You need to look yourself Lynyrd at the big news events much more closely.. You are a grown man with decades of wisdom that is going to waste because you trust what you see on the news because until recently you could get away with that. Times have radically changed Lynyrd.

Here is where to start. Look at Columbine and Sandy Hook. One is real and one is faked. It only takes a few evenings research to see it. Be honest to yourself; use your common sense and turn on your crap detector. You only need those three things.

starship said...

Oh, God. So this has taken quite the turn...

The point you seem to be missing, my friend, Hercule, in your example is that the olympics are hard to put on, which is why they occur only every few years, but getting guns in America is not.

Columbine was NOT a successful school shooting, but a failed bombing.

And I wonder what it would look like if you, Mr. Poirot, had the balls to tell to his face the grieving Bill Sherlach, who I have actually met, that his wife really wasn't killed at Sandy Hook?

MrPoirot said...

Give me his phone number and I will call him right now.

Your friend Bill made a lot of money off of Sandy Hook didn't he?

BTW why is it illegal to get a death certificate on any of the supposed victims? Because there is no death certificate.

Mrstormsurge said...

My mentor is a liar who made up counseling those families. LOL

MrPoirot said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F9yfaTEKkrk

Look at Bill Sherlach lie in this video. He tells a story about his supposed last morning with his supposed wife as he shakes his head no.(know anything about body language?)

Bill Sherlach is a liar. He was a paid actor in the Sandy Hook hoax.

MrPoirot said...

Look at how big the kitchen and garage is in that video at Sherlacks house. It looks like a new house. I'll bet he bought that new house with his Sandy Hook acting job money.
Many of the parents of the victims had their big houses paid off from Sandy hook money.

BTW all those boxes with condolence letters are not the same as a death certificate. Requesting a death certificate of a Sandy Hook victim will land you in jail..............why? Because they can't produce a death certificate. They don't have one on Mrs Sherlach.

MrPoirot said...

Bill Sherlach is the main guy responsible for fighting the FOIA(Freedom of Information Act) to stop death certificate requests and anything else into anyone involved in the Sandy Hook hoax. Why? If it was real why is he afraid of FOIA?
Death certificates would end all the problems he says he has with people asking him if his wife was really killed that day at Sandy Hook. He could end all the accusations that say he is lying by simply allowing his wife's death certificate released. Yet he would rather go the rest of his life being called a liar. Which he will.
I hope he enjoys that new house he just bought with Sandy Hook money.

MrPoirot said...
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starship said...

I don't know why I bother, but...

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/crime/sandy-hook-elementary-school-massacre-death-certificates-released-article-1.1376084

MrPoirot said...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlw5BYMka1M

This is your lying buddy Bill Sherlach at the state house trying to block the release of all fotos and info on Sandy Hook FOR ALL TIME. FOREVER!

Why? We have no proof even one person was even injured that day. We have no proof that there were students at that school. Bill Sherlach didn't even go to the school the day of the hoax. Why not?

Your buddy Bill Sherlach is a GD effing liar and he made hundreds of thousands of dollars for being part of one of the biggest hoaxes in American history.
Sunset you need to get another mentor. The one you have is a hoaxer.

starship said...

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/22/death-certificate-limits-newtown_n_2744659.html

http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?dbid=3693&rank=1&new=1&so=3&MSAV=0&msT=1&gss=genfact&gsln=Sherlach

MrPoirot said...

All that says is she died that year. No day given.

They needn't give out death certificates on all 26 hoax victims. All they have to do is release ONE which proves at least one died that day.

They have failed to prove even one person died that day. Why? It is a simple request.

None of the 26 ever showed up on the federal crime statics list for that year. LOL!

Sandy hook is a hoax.

MrPoirot said...

Bill Sherlach will be known as a liar a hundred years from now. He is one of the biggest liars in US history. He lied in order to get our 2nd amendment taken from us. He is after our constitutional rights.

MrPoirot said...

http://www.snopes.com/info/news/sandyhoax.asp

No murders ocurred in Sandy Hook in 2012 according to FBI. BUSTED!!!!

katie8753 said...

Holy Moly, I'm staying out of this one! I don't know enough about it. That seems to be pretty elaborate just to get guns away from people. But I never dreamed we'd have to pay a tax penalty for not having health insurance. These times are a changin'.

Seems like if the government wanted everyone to turn in their guns, you could just say you gave yours away, you don't have it anymore. What are they gonna do?

katie8753 said...

Venus, check your e-mail!

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

I'm with Katie, on this one.

I don't know enough about Sandy Hook to discuss the subject intelligently, so I'm staying out of it...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

In the meantime, check out THIS shit:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w-3F-I_J4vg


I'm not really sure, what to make of it.

I think the guy over-reacted a bit.

I mean... it's not like she was fucking another dude.

The "infidelity" wouldn't bother me half as much, knowing that it was just another girl.
(I'm not sure what that says about me as a person... but, it's true).

If I walked-in on that "situation", I'd be a bit shocked at first... then somewhat annoyed... then oddly aroused.

But above all... I'd play it cool, and try to bang both of them.

It's a golden opportunity, if you think about it:

#1) They're both already fully aroused, so (as the guy) you're 60% there.

#2) The "mistress" is obviously a freak... so if you play it "nice", you can round your chances up to 70%.

#3) The girls just might be willing to "play ball", to dampen the liability of being caught.
You're up to 75%.

If the girls weren't interested in a threesome, I'd get annoyed at that point, and simply ask the mistress to leave.
("Don't let the door hit you in the ass, on the way out", sorta thing)

From there, the relationship is over... but hey, it's obvious the chick had no plans on staying with this guy long-term anyway.

Best case scenario, the guy ends-up banging two hot chicks for a few months before they part ways forever.
(And quite frankly, the mistress appeared even hotter than the girlfriend).

Worst case scenario, the relationship is over.
But heck, it's pretty obvious the relationship was over anyway.
The girl obviously wasn't that "into" the dude.

The guy should have simply asked the mistress to leave, and then, discussed his failing relationship with his girlfriend (in private) afterwards.

I mean...
If she was getting dicked by another dude... well then, you'd have a totally different situation on your hands! LOL

At that point, I could definitely understand some rage!

At that point, it would be "On like Donkey Kong"! LOL

But another chick?
C'mon dude... get over it.

I think even the girls were a little startled by his extreme reaction.

But hey, that's just me...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

But I digress...

starship said...

I've come to the conclusion that our friend Hercule Poirot is simply a fictional character living in a fictional world. Just one world not as smart as Agatha Christie would have created. Even though Mr. Poirot and I would disagree from time to time, I never thought he was beyond reason. He can't possibly believe most of the things that he has been saying up here. So I will no longer engage with him, and that's too bad as we need all the help we can get. Goodbye, Mr. Poirot. I miss you already.

MrPoirot said...

Starship you need to admit you are completely brainwashed by your television and political correctness. You believe EVERYTHING YOU SEE AND HEAR ON TV. YOU AREN'T GOING TO ADMIT THAT BECAUSE YOU KNOW THAT IS A FOOLISH THING TO BELIEVE. YOU KNOW THAT WOULD BE A VERY DANGEROUS WAY TO TREAT MEDIA AND GOVERNMENT BUT YET YOU DO IT ANYHOW BECAUSE YOU ARE TOTALLY BRAINWASHED. YOU HAVE BECOME A BORG. NOT EVEN PICARD AND DATA COULD SAVE YOU NOW.

maudes harold said...

When I hear the words “Gun control” I can’t help but see myself with both hands on my .38 S&W-It’s got a bit of a kick doncha know!

Guns don’t gather into gangs and go shooting people. Is it more that we need “People Control”, which leads us to many places, including Mr. P’s list and, of course, this case.

In reference to kids today, I came across this article and found it really interesting:

http://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/2015/09/the-coddling-of-the-american-mind/399356/

I’ve read similar articles by professors recently as well. I have personally witnessed this coddling in schools I have taught at, on ALL levels as a matter of policy and/or practice, which is why I focused so much on choices and accountability with my students in what they did or said. I also saw a lot of amazing things happening, so it’s not all bad, but we have definitely become victimized by our own constant victim-claiming of everything that ‘offends’ us. Sorry, honey, but EVERYBODY’S shit stinks….

Oddities and similarities abound in the list Mr. P compiled. I don’t know where the truth lies, but I know hate and anger won’t help find it.

katie8753 said...

Hi Maudes! I agree these college students are way too into "political correctness". It's getting to where you can't say ANYTHING without offending someone.

What happens when these college kids get out in the real word and get jobs? They're showing reality TV shows nowadays about midgets and fat ugly people. What about when the office crowd gathers around the water cooler Monday morning and laughs about all that. Is the PC college student gonna complain? Good luck with all that. He can either listen to it, or quit.

katie8753 said...

Where did the word "Latinos" come into place? What's a Latino? Most Spanish people are from Spain. And I know several people from Spain and they are wonderful people I might add.

And why call black people "African Americans"? They're not all from Africa. And I think they've been here long enough to just be called Americans.

And where did this "country you're from_Americans" come from anyway? Why do we emphasize that people are from other countries? Can't we just say "Americans" and be done with it? Why do we differentiate?

Anyway, that's my 2 cents for what that's worth.

katie8753 said...

I'm part Indian, but you don't have to call me "Native American -American". I'm just me. :)

MrPoirot said...

I really can't get over the shock of Sunset saying he has a Mentor whom he admires and defends but yet this Mentor is a paid actor in a massive government run hoax.

A Mentor is a Handler.

Our own friend in here by the name of Sunset is being "handled"..

Sunset I have spoken with you enough to know that you don't need a Mentor. You need to get away from Bill Sherlach. Do not talk to that man. Get away from that man.

Mrstormsurge said...

You may have confused sunset with me, poirot. I used the word mentor to describe my former supervisor on internship. My mentor is also my friend of 20+ years. I've met his family, spent time with them and he is, interestingly, a very conservative man and also a lifetime member of the NRA. His love for and belief in the 2nd amendment prompted me to also take up shooting and become a lifetime member of the NRA. The notion that someone like this is some paid govt agent conspiring to undermine 2nd amendment rights is laughable and it's loony.

As to him being a liar, I can confidently state that he has more integrity in his little finger than you have in your whole family tree. He only told me of being part of a team out of Danbury that counseled survivors after I had called him and asked how he was doing following the shootings.

As for this discussion, I really don't want any more interchange with you, poirot. Personally, I think you're a few bricks short of a chimney but I was willing to let your insult of my friend earlier in the thread go until you just had to smear him again. I've learned in life to not get into disagreements with crazy people or to get into spitting contests with cobras - there's nothing to be gained from it.

starship said...

Word, Mrstormsurge. Word.

grimtraveller said...

katie8753 said...

"And where did this "country you're from_Americans" come from anyway? Why do we emphasize that people are from other countries? Can't we just say "Americans" and be done with it? Why do we differentiate?"


In England, the USA still has a reputation for being really segregated. I think historically, WASP~ish Americans tended to present themselves as the starting point of what 'Americans' are and in doing so, marginalized other groups in one way or another. So you had Jews, Blacks, Latinos, Italians, Irish, Indians etc. And to a large extent those groups had to stick with their own in order to not lose themselves. And being human, when we hurt or try to correct imbalances, we inevitably go too far.
But at least in the States the prefixes are followed by the word "American" so there is an identification with the USA and some thought that "we're here to stay." In England, very few groups call themselves "prefix" English. In fact, very few call themselves "prefix" British. On certain forms, you do get "Black British" but you also get before it "Black African", "Black Caribbean" and after it, "Black ~ other" ! That "Black British" and "Black other" aren't there at the request and approval of Black people though. Few Black people I've ever known in my life refer to themselves as British and I can't think of one in 52 years that regards themselves as English. I'm in, and have been for decades, a minority there !
But differentiations can be important. For one thing, they are a present explanation of how a multi peopled nation came to be and the ugly as well as beautiful history behind it. Britain and America do not really have glorious histories in regard to how new peoples arrived or have been treated yet various peoples against the odds have demonstrated the necessary tenacity to come through it all. And I've long noted that for all the nastiness that non indigenes may have suffered, there's also been that parallel thing happening where a significant segment of a population have been welcoming and accommodating.

Cease2 said...

Hi gang! Brilliant thread. The "Pussy generation", gun control, drugs, Govt hoaxes, Churchill, threesomes(!), race-labelling, political-correctness, Presidents, Jesse Owens. Helter skelter. Confusion.

Yessir. It's the same old divide-and-conquer/divide-and-rule. Get in yer ghetto, and git high! The revolution is indeed being televised.

With any luck, Mr-and-Mrs America's gender-realigned son, Caitlyn, will be skilled enough on Playstation to become the Drone remote-controller that helps defend the nation.

His-her lack of firearms and hunting skills might prove problematic however when the power goes down and the food stores are empty.

katie8753 said...

Cease!!! Good to see you!!!! :)

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Cease2!

What a treat... and still sporting the Squeaky avatar!

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

As I was writing "I blame the parents" earlier, it struck me as kinda odd, that I'm echoing Charlie's message to some degree. LOL

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Keep the kids away from their parents.
Let Krenwinkel babysit all of 'em! LOL!

Cease2 said...

Yep, the good ol days. When Dennis Rice could leave the kids safe with goofy Grogan and them wacky x'd-out gals.

Nice 2c ya katie & brother Lynyrd.

katie8753 said...

Cease, you crack me up!!! Clem babysitting. HA HA HA. That guy had way too much saliva dripping down his teeth. He was disgusting. He looked like a wolf smelling his prey. Must have been some kind of oral hygiene problem. Either that or he was smelling his prey...

TomG said...

The generation pussy remark is certainly challengeable. Older folks often idealize a past that never really existed. Just as they condemn a present they can't seem to adapt too.
The young people today are amazing. They've got their knuckleheads and their growing pains like we had, remember testosterone and estrogen levels are higher when your young.
They will be just fine. In fact, when our generation gets out of the way, with our superstitions and prejudice and greed, our need to be a superpower and the world's cop. They will be just fine.
But if I'm wrong, it's just one more thing I'm wrong about. Like the Eagles going to the Super Bowl.

grimtraveller said...

TomG said...

"The generation pussy remark is certainly challengeable. Older folks often idealize a past that never really existed. Just as they condemn a present they can't seem to adapt to"


I think there's some truth in this. Throughout documented history, the older adults of the day in the Western world have been down on the younger generation. It's not new. By the same token, as this article points out, there have been changes afoot fairly recently that previous adult generations never had to contend with. Since the early years following WW2 there has been a rapid sweep of change that many have found hard to grapple with. Kids don't need to worry about it ~ until they get to middle age !
It really isn't a new thing. Plato is supposed to have thought Socrates said "the children now love luxury; they have bad manners, contempt for
authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place
of exercise. Children are now tyrants, not the servants of their
households. They no longer rise when elders enter the room. They
contradict their parents, chatter before company, gobble up dainties
at the table, cross their legs, and tyrannize their teachers." Grumbling ? The author Willa Cather {died in 1947, the year the term 'teenager' was first coined} opined that "the dead might as well try to speak to the living as the old to the young." Prophetic ?
The politician, Adlai Stevenson, who died in 1965 said "nothing so dates a man as to decry the younger generation." Astute ?
Personally, I think it's 6 of one and half a dozen of the other. I know young people who don't want to be famous, don't think life owes them everything on a plate and have had to cope with lousy things in life. And I also grew up alongside people in the 70s and 80s who caved in under such circumstances and some whose parents had also caved in. I think both sides of this debate are actually right. It just depends where you look.
It's notable that Charlie Manson who had probably one job in his life, was born in the 30s in that era when people supposedly stuck it out and beat the hard times.

Cease2 said...

Yeah, Grim. And it's worth considering that perception of today's youth culture is to a good degree fashioned by the older generations running the media, and the businesses that provide today's consumer products and services. And law firms promoting a compensation-culture for hurt-feelings.

Lo/no-talent celebs provide faster turnaround click-bait content than artistes and stars of yesteryear, whose antics related to once-a-year movies, albums or tours.

In a world of generally free-content web pages, as opposed to paid for papers and magazines, these useless icons of todays media are more a consequence of supply than demand.

Added to that, is that we are at the end-of-the-beginning of modern times (electronics, mass-communication etc.)

Very little innovation is possible in film, music, fashion and whatever else is the staple of youth culture (from the vantage point of the elders who've seen it all before).

And now that anything new is instantly Youtube'd, we're not likely to get a Beatles that gets the luxury of 1000+ unseen incubation hours of playing Hamburg and The Cavern before being unleashed on the masses.

They'd probably be given a general thumbs-down based on footage of a ramshackle performance in a german strip-joint.

TomG said...

No ho. A landscaper does it for me. A man of my stature don't push a lawnmower.

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