Monday, February 9, 2015

Et tu, Star? Et tu, Grey Wolf? Charles Manson Gets Played

This plot was too crazy even for Charles Manson.

Manson’s engagement to a woman 53 years his junior was part of a wild scheme of hers to profit by putting his body on public display after his death, says the author of an upcoming book.

Manson’s fiancée, 27-year-old Afton Elaine Burton, known as Star, sought to wed the convicted mastermind of the Sharon Tate murder and eight other slayings so that she could gain possession of his corpse, according to journalist Daniel Simone.

Burton and a pal, Craig Hammond, planned to lay out Manson’s remains in a glass crypt, Simone says. The pair figured their bizarre California version of Lenin’s Tomb would draw huge crowds and make big money.

But Manson, 80, does not want to marry Burton and has no interest in spending eternity displayed in a glass coffin, Simone told The Post. “He’s finally realized that he’s been played for a fool,” Simone said.

Another reason the madman balked at the plan is because he believes he is immortal. “He feels he will never die,” Simone said. “Therefore, he feels it’s a stupid idea to begin with.”

Charles Manson in 2011 (left) and in 1970Photo: AP
Manson’s and Burton’s marriage license expired Thursday. “They plan on renewing the license, and things will move forward in the coming months,” says a statement posted on Burton’s and Hammond’s website.

Burton and Hammond — who uses the nickname Gray Wolf — could not be reached for comment.
The wedding was postponed “due to an unexpected interruption in logistics,” the site says. Manson entered a prison medical facility for treatment of an infection about two months ago and cannot receive visitors, Simone said.

California prison officials would not comment on either Manson’s medical condition or his whereabouts.

Simone and a collaborator, Heidi Jordan Ley, are seeking a publisher for their book, “The Retrial of Charles Manson.” Manson and other inmates at Corcoran State Prison in California are helping the project. The authors say they spoke with Manson regularly before his phone privileges were suspended two years ago. They also corresponded with Manson and his inmate friends by mail.

According to the authors, Burton and Hammond hatched their plan to display Manson’s corpse about two years ago.

Initially, the duo asked Manson to sign a document that would let them take his body when he dies.

Manson and BurtonPhoto:
“He didn’t give them a yes, he didn’t give them a no. He sort of strung them along,” Simone said. Burton and Hammond regularly brought Manson toiletries and other items. Stringing them along kept the goodies coming, Simone said.

When it became clear last year that the purportedly death-proof Manson would not green-light the plan, Burton and Hammond switched to the marriage idea, Simone says.

If Burton married Manson, the pair realized, California law would give her possession of Manson’s remains upon his death, Simone said.

Simone believes Manson never intended to marry Burton. “Manson never consented to the wedding in the first place and never will,” he said.

Another Simone book, “The Lufthansa Heist,” about a $6 million armed robbery at Kennedy Airport in 1978, is due out next month. He co-authored it with “Good­Fellas” mobster Henry Hill, who died in 2012. 


leary7 said...

Charlie under glass....I'd bet he'd do it if some of the girls agreed to join him. Cappy would, maybe Lynn and Nancy too. Now that would be a trip, Charlie and some of the Witches of M under glass. It would have to be in Vegas though. Right next to Bonnie and Clyde's death car.

Mrstormsurge said...

one helluva paperweight

louis365 said...

Surely, they are making this up?

katie8753 said...

Hey Starship, I fixed your thread. It had too much white on it.


katie8753 said...

I think they should make Charlie appear in a wax museum. Like House of Wax.

He could be humped over with a buck knife in one hand about to pound upon an innocent victim, cowled on the floor with a horrified look on his/her face, and he with a snarl on his face.

Then they could have a non-stop looped tract playing all his gobble-de-goop nonsense that he always spouts.

Now that would be a fitting end...LOL.

katie8753 said...

Okay here are my fav quotes by CM:

“You know, a long time ago being crazy meant something. Nowadays everybody's crazy.”

“Death is the greatest form of love.”

“No sense makes sense.”

“These children that come at you with knives--they are your children. You taught them. I didn't teach them. I just tried to help them stand up.”

“If you're going to do something, do it well. And leave something witchy.”

“I don't wanna take my time going to work, I got a motorcycle and a sleeping bag and ten or fifteen girls. What the hell I wanna go off and go to work for? Work for what? Money? I got all the money in the world. I'm the king, man. I run the underworld, guy. I decide who does what and where they do it at. What am I gonna run around like some teeny bopper somewhere for someone elses money? I make the money man, I roll the nickels. The game is mine. I deal the cards”

“Remorse for what? You people have done everything in the world to me. Doesn't that give me equal right?”

“Do you feel blame? Are you mad? Uh, do you feel like wolf kabob Roth vantage? Gefrannis booj pooch boo jujube; bear-ramage. Jigiji geeji geeja geeble Google. Begep flagaggle vaggle veditch-waggle bagga?”

“I know and understand you are much more than what I think you are but first I must deal with you the way I think you even if that's only my own thinking and not you.”

“I have ate out of your garbage cans to stay out of jail. I have wore your second-hand clothes…I have done my best to get along in your world and now you want to kill me, and I look at you, and then I say to myself, You want to kill me? Ha! I’m already dead, have been all my life. I’ve spent twenty-three years in tombs that you built.”

“I'm Jesus Christ, whether you want to accept it or not, I don't care.”

“There is no way that you can know the taste of water unless you drink it or unless it has rained on you or unless you jump in the river.”

“The way out of a room is not through the door. Just don't want out. And you're free…”

Wow, this guy is a trip. A one way ticket to hell!! HA HA.

Now let's put this silly dialogue on a perpetual loop by his "wax figure". HA HA.

sunset77 said...

Leary mentioned the Bonnie & Clyde death car, I have to admit I though of that also when I read this story. I seen that car when I was a kid at a fair, I think they had one of Hitler's cars also.

I suspect a dispute over Manson's remains could become an issue (assuming he dies). Considering what took place with Casey Kasem, I suppose the law in CA is the wife (or most recent wife) controls funeral arrangements, but I don't know.

Personally, I doubt "Star" ever wanted to put Manson's remains on display, and I seriously doubt the author of that book has any evidence to prove otherwise.

Dilligaf said...

Heck of a time to consummate a marriage. Talk about a dead lay...

Mrstormsurge said...

I think they'd do a lot better if they made a giant snowglobe with charlie floating around in it. Shake it up and he looks like he is gonna attack Judge Older with a pencil.

MrPoirot said...

Is it even legal to display a corpse? I don't think so.

Anonymous said...

Charlie is in Madame Tussuads (sp) wax museum in London. I saw him there several years ago. He and the three girls ( again- where the hell was Watson?) are the last figures you see after walking through the chamber of horrors. They even had the X's on their foreheads. Lovely. It'd been a while so who knows they've probably been moved into storage. Although I doubt that will ever happen!

starship said...

Thanks, Katie.

There is all sorts of commentary on this story floating around online. Most of it seems to be that Star and Gray Wolf have been taking Charlie for a ride all along, trying to cash in on whatever they can get out of him, whether its art, music, or sperm...Star only ever wanted Charlie for his body, and the like...

With Valentine's day coming up, this is my favorite quote so far about the whole thing: "It’s the same old story – elderly lunatic serial killer meets young, attractive girl. Girl plots to marry elderly lunatic serial killer so she can turn his body into a tourist attraction when he dies, elderly lunatic serial killer doesn’t much care for that plan. We’ve all seen the movie."

sunset77 said...

Mr. Poirot questioned about displaying a corpse. I don't know about the laws in the US, but I ran across a very strange one involving a famous British philosopher I studied in college.

Jeremy Bentham was born in 1748 and died in 1832. Bentham had made careful preparations for the dissection of his body after death and its preservation as an "auto-icon". Apparently, an "auto icon" is human remains stored in a wooden cabinet.

Wikipedia says "The skeleton and head were preserved and stored in a wooden cabinet called the "Auto-icon", with the skeleton padded out with hay and dressed in Bentham's clothes. Originally kept by his disciple Thomas Southwood Smith,[19] it was acquired by University College London in 1850. It is normally kept on public display at the end of the South Cloisters in the main building of the college; however, for the 100th and 150th anniversaries of the college, and in 2013,[20] it was brought to the meeting of the College Council, where it was listed as "present but not voting".[21]

Bentham had intended the Auto-icon to incorporate his actual head, mummified to resemble its appearance in life. However, Southwood Smith's experimental efforts at mummification, based on practices of the indigenous people of New Zealand and involving placing the head under an air pump over sulphuric acid and simply drawing off the fluids, although technically successful, left the head looking distastefully macabre, with dried and darkened skin stretched tautly over the skull.[18] The Auto-icon was therefore given a wax head, fitted with some of Bentham's own hair. The real head was displayed in the same case as the Auto-icon for many years, but became the target of repeated student pranks. It is now locked away securely.[22]

An image of Jeremy Bentham sitting as an "auto icon" can be seen-->HERE.

sunset77 said...

Chrissy Deen mentioned Madame Tussaud's wax museum, I looked for an hour to find a pic Charlie and the girls in that museum, but I couldn't find one.

I did read however, that "Madame Tussaud's" name was originally Marie Grosholtz (1761-1850). Her mother apparently worked for a doctor that was a skilled wax modeler, he made wax models for anatomy displays. His name was Dr. Philippe Curtius.

"In 1780, the Royal Court at Versailles came calling: Grosholtz was invited to live at the Palace and serve as art tutor to Madame Élisabeth, Louis XVI's sister. Grosholtz, a savvy businesswoman, used the royal connection to her (and Curtius') advantage in creating Marie Antoinette-themed tableaux for Curtius's Wax Salon. Visitors could watch "Marie Antoinette and her family eating dinner" or satisfy their inner Peeping Toms with a scene of Antoinette, in a low-cut nightgown, preparing for bed.

After the mob stormed the Bastille in 1789, the mutilated head of de Launay, the Bastille governor, was brought to Grosholtz. Paraded on a pike by the angry mob, the head had deteriorated in condition and the group had decided a wax head might be better suited for their purposes. Grosholtz supposedly fashioned the wax head on the steps of her exhibition while the mob waited.

Suspected of Royalist tendencies due to her job at Versailles, Grosholtz was forced to make death masks from the heads of freshly guillotined victims of the Revolution, including Marie Antoinette and King Louis XVI. Grosholtz would search through piles of corpses to find the heads of her executed friends and acquaintances. She would then make the mask while holding the bloodied head in her lap.

Eventually, Grosholtz too was arrested and imprisoned. According to some sources, her head was even shaved in preparation for her execution (on the guillotine), though the day of execution never came. While in prison, she shared a cell with Joséphine de Beauharais, with whom she became good friends. The women were released after three months and remained friends; it was at the request of Joséphine, his wife, that Napoleon Bonaparte later posed for Grosholtz.

Grosholtz began using the name Madame Tussaud after her marriage to Francois Tussaud in 1795."--Mental Floss Wesite

After reading a bit more about Marie Antoinette, "Madame Tussaud" was very lucky to have escaped with her life. At her "trial" Antoinette was charged with "orchestrating orgies in Versailles, sending millions of livres of treasury money to Austria, plotting to kill the Duke of Orléans, incest with her son, declaring her son to be the new King of France, and orchestrating the massacre of the Swiss Guards in 1792."

leary7 said...

this thread has a posse of some of my favorite posters. Thanks Sunset for that great piece of history. I just finished reading three different bios of Catherine the that time period.

I still pray everyday that Charlie wants to go out with a bang and have a grand funeral say at one of the big churches in downtown SF. I just think it would be the ultimate trip seeing who might show.

katie8753 said...

Okay I'm gonna talk backwards. Figure it out:

Eripmav namow a yb pu edam eveileb ekam s”tI. Laer ton si dearth sihT.

MrPoirot said...

Is Craig Hammond Star's boyfriend?

Mrstormsurge said...

He ain't dead.

He's just resting.

louis365 said...

Adding to Katie's Famous Quotes:

"Blackie has been on the bottom too long, it's Whitey's turn now..."

TomG said...

I think that girls minds work diffently. And after 80 years, Charlie is figuring it out.

Sometimes you have to let things go, except them for the mystery we won't figure out

That's why God made women beautiful. Otherwise, we'd kill them.

TomG said...

I think the female brain is an unknown. That for all of our advancement, we simply don't know. That the normal wirings of logic and reason got tripped, and you have this volatile mixture.

It's like finding a grenade in a field. Just leave it the fuck where it is, call 911, and get out of the area.

TomG said...

Kids get goofed up. And believe me, with all of my soul, I wish they didn't.
As time goes by, as they mature and sober up, they return to their right mind.
I guess maybe compassion is the best we can offer another human being. In that moment we are about to judge, we say no and are willing to understand.