Saturday, November 1, 2014

Gay Talese on Charlie Manson’s Home on the Range

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/10/31/the-stacks-charlie-manson-s-home-on-the-range.html

18 comments:

katie8753 said...

Thanks Starship & Leary!

leary7 said...

actually, I thought the article sucked. It was a bore. Most of the info was on Spahn and Ruby. It just didn't do anything for me.

still, it is interesting that the dailybeast and other news outlets love to throw a Manson story out there every couple of months. Wasn't Charlie just on the cover of People a few months ago?

I spend to much time wondering what someone like Ruth Ann or Ella Jo think when they are going through the check-out line and see Charlie on a magazine cover 45 years after the fact. It's gotta be surreal.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Gay Talese.

Imagine going through life with THAT tag? LOL!

Might as well just name your kid jackass. LMAO!

katie8753 said...

Lynyrd, LOL.

Yeah Leary I read part of it but it was sorta ho-hum at best.

TomG said...

Gay Talese had his summer home on one of my mail routes. From time to time, I'd see him. I'd say hi and he'd say hi. But he was sort of an artsy fellow while I am more a sports/popular culture bird, so we never talked much. He and his wife were getting on in years and you could tell the house was too much for them. They sold the house and they were gone and I never heard about them again until this post.

katie8753 said...

Wow, that's interesting Tom!

Brian Davis said...

Most of you probably know but Talese wrote one of the best mafia books I've ever read in "Honor Thy Father" about Joe Bonanno and the Bonanno crime family. Interesting that he wrote a Manson piece.

katie8753 said...

Hi Brian! :)

TomG said...

Gay Talese did write and examine anti-social personalities and it is interesting that he did write about Charlie Manson. Who at the end of the day was just a bullshitting little untreated schizophrenic who came along at the best possible time.

johnnyseattle said...

Wonderful writer. Thank you for reposting this story.
The part about Ruby Pearl was most excellent.

CarolMR said...

Years ago, Gay Talese wrote fantastic articles (for Esquire?) on Sinatra ("Frank Sinatra Has a Cold") and Joe DiMaggio ("The Silent Season of a Hero"). FYI, Gay's real name is Gaetano.

sunset77 said...

Thanx for the post, I'm still here, just not as much lately.

Off topic comment, I've noticed some comments on here about Jodi Arias from time to time. A video turned up on my page that I assume was made by her parents, it describes how you can donate money to her legal defense. The vid is---> HERE.

Also, I watched an old movie the other day called "The St.Valentines Day Massacre". 7 people were apparently machine gunned by members of Al Capone's gang, the victims apparently worked for a rival gang headed by George "Bugs" Moran. Apparently, a pretty elaborate scheme was concocted to lure possibly Moran and some of his cohorts to a truck garage called "SMC Cartage". A "lookout" may have been stationed in the hotel across the street, he possibly misidentified Moran as being in the garage when he wasn't. He sent a "signal" possibly to Circus Cafe where gunmen were waiting, 2 of the killers dressed as cops, 2 others possibly were "plainclothesmen" according to witnesses that seen them leave SMC after the massacre.

The massacre took place in Feb. 1929. In Jan. 1934, the police raided an apartment building looking for members of the "Barker gang", (that at one point included bank robber Alvin "creepy" Karpis). A bank robber named Russell Wilson was shot and killed, arrested were "Doc" Barker, Byron Bolton and 2 women. Bolton was possibly a "geyser of information" pinpointing the Florida hideout of "Ma" and Freddie Barker. A week later the hideout was raided and Ma and Freddie were shot dead.

Bolton apparently continued talking to the FBI and claimed to have been one of the 2 "lookouts" watching for Moran to enter SMC Cartage. Bolton further indicated he had mistaken one of Moran’s men to be Moran, after which he telephoned the signal to the Circus Café. When the killers (who had expected to kill Moran and maybe two or three of his men) were unexpectedly confronted with seven men, they simply decided to kill them all and get out fast. Bolton claimed that Capone was furious with him for his mistake (and the resulting police pressure) and threatened to kill him, only to be dissuaded by Fred Goetz.

Bank robber Alvin Karpis later claimed to have heard secondhand from Ray Nugent about the massacre and that the “American Boys” were paid a collective salary of $2,000 a week plus bonuses. Karpis also claimed that Capone himself had told him while they were in Alcatraz together that Goetz had been the actual planner of the massacre.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

(((((---!!!!--SUNSET--!!!!---)))))

katie8753 said...

Hi Sunset!! I thought that video that Jodi Arias' parents did was taken down! HA HA. I guess they're all still begging for money.

It's amazing what parents will do to get you You Tube! Even beg for money! HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!!!!!

katie8753 said...

"On You Tube" LOL.

katie8753 said...

Jodi's parents told the cops at the onset that she was nuts and she probably killed Travis.

Now they're begging for money. Hmmmmmm.....Sound suspicious to me. They even made a declaration on Jodi's website that they can't guarantee the money will go to Jodi's defense.

Maybe they're trying to get their restaurant back. That family is just a bunch of LIARS!!

sunset77 said...

@Katie, the YouTube vid of Arias parents was taken down. It showed up on may page, I waited a day or 2 to post here, when I went back it said "this video has been removed". It was apparently re-uploaded a day or 2 ago. Vids are removed and re-upped on YouTube all the time.

Also, off topic comment. Apparently, Brian Wilson of The Beach Boys has an album coming out in the spring of 2015. He apparently posted about it on Facebook.

The album is apparently entitled "No Pier Pressure". Wikipedia says, Confirmed song titles include "Right Time" and "Run James Run", which both feature lead vocals by Al Jardine,[8] along with "On the Island", "Special Love", "Sharing a New Day", "Guess You Had to Be There",[9] "Sail Away", and "Last Song".[10] Jardine spoke of "Run, James, Run" as a "suped-up Little Deuce Coupe kind of thing. It's just cute as hell."

katie8753 said...

Thanks Sunset!!