Wednesday, June 11, 2014

Okay I'm just wondering why they left Rosemary with her gown raised over her butt.  Was there a reason??  And if so, what was it??

Or were they the ones who left her like that?  Did someone else leave her like that? 

I don't think they did it.  They never mentioned it.  Was Charlie snooping around again?

I haven't seen a single post on this subject.  Inquiring minds would really like to know...

63 comments:

katie8753 said...

If that picture offends anyone, I'll take it down.

I'd really like to know why, of all the other victims, Rosemary's gown was pulled up. It doesn't make any sense.

Ciao guys & dolls!! :)

Dooger said...

Tex forced Leslie by knife to stab her ass, right?

katie8753 said...

Okay I removed that pic. It was too gruesome.

Dooger, Tex told Leslie to stab Rosemary, but did he specify where? And why raise her gown up? They didn't do that to Abigail...

DebS said...

Katie, my guess would be to humiliate Rosemary even in death.

katie8753 said...

Good guess Deb. But why humiliate Rosemary and not Abigail or Sharon?

They did seem to have a lot more time to hang around the house after killing the Labiancas. Were they just getting better at it??

I wonder if Leslie, Pat or Tex has ever been questioned about this at parole hearings...

Doc Sierra said...

katie8753 said...

If that picture offends anyone, I'll take it down.
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Hi Katie. One thing we all have in common here at The Inbred Blog is that we're in search of the truth. I doubt anyone that would read this would be offended. At any rate, if you don't put it back up will you please email to me?

katie8753 said...

Doc, you want me to e-mail you a pic of Rosemary lying prone with her naked butt showing?

Here's the deal.

Why was Rosemary not wearing underwear? I know she was liberal but come on!

Someone took off her underwear and pulled up her gown.

It's funny that no one has mentioned any of this at anytime.

Makes me think that maybe her daughter Suzanne did it.

I know, it's a big reach here, but Rosemary and Suzanne were fighting a lot. And I don't trust Suzanne as far as I can throw her.

Was there evidence that the stab wounds went thru her clothing, but the clothing was later removed?

So let's throw that into the mix.

katie8753 said...

Did you know that cats don't have shoulders? That's why they can get into a tiny crevice.

Just saying.

Doc Sierra said...

Let's not get into a Liberal vs Conservative debate. As much as I can't stand that naive liberal ideology I can't stand the equivalent of the Conservative ideology. I'm registered as Decline To State. I'm in the middle but lean to the right. I'm one of those old fashioned guys that think if you want a cell phone you should go out and earn the money to get one.....

katie8753 said...

Okay, Doc, what does that new ballast have to do with Rosemary's undies?

Just askin'?

Doc Sierra said...

Ballast? Splain it to me Lucy.....

katie8753 said...

Okay I get it. You're trying to make me go ballistic as usual. I don't do that anymore.

So 'splain this:

Let's not get into a Liberal vs Conservative debate. As much as I can't stand that naive liberal ideology I can't stand the equivalent of the Conservative ideology. I'm registered as Decline To State. I'm in the middle but lean to the right. I'm one of those old fashioned guys that think if you want a cell phone you should go out and earn the money to get one.....

What does that have to do with Rosemary's Butt????

CarolMR said...

Rosemary was also wearing a dress over her nightgown. In THE ULTIMATE EVIL Maury Terry suggested that Rosemary was on her way out before the intruders arrived.

katie8753 said...

Thanks Carol. You're sweet. I know there are multiple explanations why she put the dress on over her gown.

But I wasn't questioning what she was wearing, but WHY she she wasn't wearing underwear and WHY her clothing was pulled up over her butt after her death.

That was the question....

Doc Sierra said...

Katie. The Kaitstress. Der Katenheimer. Katalingadingdong. I was posting a rebuttal to one of my acquaintances' Facebook page. I screwed it up and I think I accidentally sent it to a whole bunch of people.
So, please forget the fact that I'm not a liberal, I'm not a fan of liberals, I'm not a
Republican, I'm not a Democrat. I'm just a retired military dude with a slightly receding hairline.
I dig me some Katie.....

CarolMR said...

Thanks, Katie. Sorry to go off-topic! I had forgotten that Rosemary wasn't wearing underwear. Was it found anywhere in her bedroom? If, as Maury Terry believes, Rosemary was on her way out, she certainly would have worn panties. (There I go - off-topic again!)

katie8753 said...

Doc! You silly bunny!

Just be glad you weren't on a Triple "X" site and asked me if I'm wearing the panties my mother laid out for me. LOL.

katie8753 said...

Carol, I haven't read anywhere that anyone even mentioned her panties. That's what I find so curious about this. You would think that since we know who killed her, that someone would explain her state of undress.

I don't know if she was going out. In fact, according to Tex & Charlie, she was in bed when they did the home invasion. Charlie says she put on the dress to cover herself up out of modesty. But Charlie is known to lie, so who knows?

Doc Sierra said...

You can do whatever you want to do with your panties. Just please don't show up at my house on Friday with Tuesday's on.....

katie8753 said...

LOLOL.

CarolMR said...

The panties my mother laid out for me! Great Seinfeld reference, Katie!

katie8753 said...

Carol! Gotta LOVE the Sein!! LOL.

CarolMR said...

I am crazy about the Sein, Katie!

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Venus sent me this link via email:

http://www.nbc.com/aquarius

Venus states:
"The show starts filming next month! (according to the new TV Guide)"

Thanks Venus!

katie8753 said...

Thanks Venus! I want to see that!

Carol, I've got a couple of Seinfeld threads on my blog if you want to come over and enjoy!

Night guys!!

CarolMR said...

I'll check out your blog, Katie. Thanks.

Venus, thanks for the info.

revatron said...

According to Tex's book…
"I went back to the bedroom and told Leslie to help Katie stab the woman, even though it was obvious that Rosemary LaBianca was already dead. Leslie obeyed me, striking mainly on the exposed buttocks"

It does seem extra degrading that Rosemary's clothing was lifted, but it also seems quite "natural" that that could have happened in the struggle for her life.
I suggest she wasn't wearing any underwear to sleep, and I do believe she put clothes on over her nightgown to feel "comfortable", so to speak, in front of these strangers.
Charlie is indeed a liar, but remember at this point he's trying to keep the Labianca's calm. So maybe she asks to put some more clothes on and he says, be my guest.

katie8753 said...

Thanks Revatron. I was thinking it was possible that Rosemary didn't wear underwear because she seemed to be quite liberal in the sex department. She wasn't exactly June Cleaver.

It's possible that her clothing was pulled up in the struggle, but it's really unlikely, especially to be pulled up that high.

louis365 said...

Charlie is a liar Kate??

Everyone is a liar...just some more than others - proves nothing.

TomG said...

I think Drugs. That's the easy, standard answer to all of the hard questions in life.....because it's the right one.
These were kids in 1969. Your country was losing a war in Viet Nam. They would go on to lose wars in Iraq and Afghanistan too... but at the time....
They were messed up kids in a messed up time and it was a horrible night of being fucked up and they didn't see the point in putting the nightgown back over the woman's big ass.

Kimchi said...

I did not see the photo you posted, I am assuming it's the one that's commonly found on the web...

Could it be that the dress/nightgown was pulled up over her back by the coroner and/or cops to take that specific photo/view of the wounds?

We don't know, we weren't at the scene of the crime... we can be assured, there are many many more photos of the crime scene that haven't been made public....

I also wouldn't doubt there "was" a video of the crime scene too...

katie8753 said...

Louis said: Charlie is a liar Kate??

Everyone is a liar...just some more than others - proves nothing.


First of all, it's KATIE, not KATE.

Secondly, I wasn't trying to prove anything. I was asking a question.

TomG said...

Well, however many picks Leslie Van Houten took at Ms. LaBiancas August moon, under the glaring eyes of murderer Tex Watson, cost her about five years each at the California Institute for Women.
It is unconscionable that a state in a Western society could incarcerate a non violent and rehabiliatated woman for over 40 years.
Fuck You California. I hope an earthquake hits and you sink into the pacific ocean.
On the other hand, congrats to the LA Kings. That Justin Williams is pretty good!

katie8753 said...

Okay thanks Tom, that explains everything.

katie8753 said...

Kimchi, thanks. Yes the photo I'm talking about is the same one everyone has seen, with her lying on the floor with her clothing pulled up and stab wounds in her lower back/buttocks.

I was wondering if the stab wounds were made thru the clothing, and then the clothing was raised up for photos too, as you suggest. That could very well be true. I'm wondering if that was mentioned in the autopsy or crime report. I haven't read that.

You mention a video of the crime scene. Are you talking about a police video, or some other video??

Thanks Kimchi!

TomG said...

They probably didn't go into that house like Navy Seals. They probably went in with mixed emotions, kids trying to prove themselves to one another because that made sense that night. They didn't have the insight to pull a nightgown back over a fat ass for posteritys sake.
I'm guessing.

katie8753 said...

Tom, you're about an inch away from pissing me off. I'm trying to have an adult conversation here, and you're being a horse's ass. Stop while you're ahead.

This is not a rally to get horse teeth off. STOP NOW!

I mean it!!!

TomG said...

Who are you having that adult conversation with? Is the voice audible, for instance.

katie8753 said...

Tom listen carefully. I was having an adult conversation with Kimchi. She doesn't like arguing. I will choose her over you. So if you keep on, I will delete you from the membership. And you will be moderated.

I don't want to do that. If you have anything positive to add to the conversation, please do. But if you keep adding negative things, I will delete you.

It's as simple as that....

katie8753 said...

Tom, that's fair warning. Please don't keep adding negative things.

katie8753 said...

I bought some orthotics today. They feel good, but they're so loud.

katie8753 said...

Odie has big teeth. Just sayin....

louis365 said...

Sorry Katie...my bad.

Rosemary didn't wear panties that night because it was so hot.

Either that or because she and Leno were planning on havin' a little whoopee, and Leno didn't like having to go through the extra work of removing Rosemary's underwear before balling.

Kimchi said...

Before I opened my mouth about the video, I should have thought about the fact it was LAPD investigating, not LASD....

I have no idea if LAPD did videos in those days...

I do know LASD did...it was a new concept and expensive... but they did do it...much more common in the 70's and of course the 80's..

And Katie, my opinion is, they probably did not stab through the clothes...I don't really remember, been too long since I read the autopsy report...

matt prokes said...

I would hazard to guess that if there was a video made of the Crime Scene by the Police that it would have been a Hands off kind of Thing that would Document the Scene as They found it.

sunset77 said...

I didn't see the pic that was apparently on this post, it must have been removed. I know of 2 pix commonly available online showing what appears to be Rosemary LaBianca after the attack, one in color and one in black and white.

I suspect it's possible she wasn't wearing underwear in the first place. I'm not exactly sure what she was wearing when the attack began, I think I read she was wearing a night gown and maybe put on a coat, a housecoat, or some other type clothing over her nightgown when the attack began.

That may have simply been the way her body was left after the struggle. It's also possible her clothes were lifted up to make stabbing easier, or to leave some type of "message". There are cases where murder victims are "posed" graphically for someone to find, I think the "Black Dahlia" was such a case, and there were "messages" left at that crime scene, writing in blood that appeared similar to lyrics by the Beatles.

That may have been some type of "half assed" attempt to leave the victim "posed" or it may have simply been the way the body ended up after the attack, I don't know. It seems to me that some of the attackers showered and stole food from the house after the attack, I think I read that Leslie Van Houten left the house wearing some of Rosemary LaBianca's clothes she stole from her closet.

It's difficult to determine a "why" as to why these attackers do the various things they do. They were probably affected by the drugs they had taken at some point, and didn't even know themselves "why" they were doing what they did. That's "why" murders committed by people using psychotropic drugs are almost always described as "senseless".

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

This is basically a guessing game, as we'll never know the answer(s).

My "guess" is that Sunset is correct.

My guess is that Rosemary wasn't wearing any underwear in the first place, and her clothes just ended-up in that position from all the turmoil.

I think Katie is thinking way too far into this... but that's just my humble opinion.

Venus said...

Could she have been preparing for a romantic interlude with Leno? Maybe that's why she was in a nightgown but no underwear. He was in his pajamas, was he wearing underwear? Maybe she'd been in the living room with him and they'd made plans to meet in the bedroom after he was done reading the paper?

katie8753 said...

Okay thanks for the input guys!

Venus you crack me up!!! LOL.

I agree, perhaps Rosemary just flat wasn't wearing undies, but she was wearing a gown, upon which she had placed a dress.

I guess my real questions is: why did Rosemary's garments get raised up and not Gibby's? They were both wearing nightgowns.

I just find that curious....

katie8753 said...

The only real difference that I can see is the murder participants. Horse teeth was involved the 2nd time.

katie8753 said...

Has anyone noticed how much the price of beef has gone up? I may have to settle for some of that potted meat, with all them peckers. LOL.

revatron said...

I believe the nightgown is a matter of happenstance, which is a fun word and I'm glad to have said it.
If you toss some flower petals in the air some will go this way and some will go that way. I believe that's what we have here.

TomG said...

Your continued reference to horseteeth is in bad taste, even for you. If the worse mixed up hour in our lifetime was there for all the world to scruntinize and judge, than I guess we'd all be bad characters.

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TomG said...

Our Catholic beliefs. Before we leave this earth, and take our last breath, love for the last moment those who were part of our lives.....we must forgive everything that has happened.
Many say this is easier said than done. But it is something that should be done because resentment and unforgiveness are horrible weights to carry, and not into life after this.

katie8753 said...

Tom said: Your continued reference to horseteeth is in bad taste, even for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mmAC4nIsoWo

katie8753 said...

Hey Tom, do you forgive Charlie, Bruce, Tex, Pat, Clem & Bobby?

TomG said...

Hey Katie, before my time is done, (and I hope it isn't done anytime soon), I forgive every motherfucker on the planet.

katie8753 said...

Cool beans Dude!!! :)

TomG said...

I don't understand the whole thought process of why you stop loving someone just because they are bad. Chances are, they went bad because someone stopped loving them. But we get another day and say and do what we can for everybody whose left in the mix.

katie8753 said...

Wow Tom, that sounds kinda personal. Good luck with all that.

Just kidding. I wish you the best. It's hard to love bad folks. I'm sure anyone can attest to that. But sometimes even bad folks can see the light.

louis365 said...

Sorry Katie...my bad.

Rosemary didn't wear panties that night because it was so hot.

katie8753 said...

Louis, like not wearing panties but wearing a gown is gonna cool you off? Get outta here! LOL.