Monday, January 7, 2013

Triumph of the Human Spirit. 
R.P. McMurphy ROCKS!


LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

It's a fuckin' HOME RUN!!!

candy and nuts said...

Just found the new dvd of this movie with special documentary behind the scenes Ive got the SHINING with documentary JAck is amazing Mcmurphy is one of a kind truly human and lYnard that archie bunker pic drives me nuts cus thats one of my fav shows everytime I see that pic Im like shit ah edith wheres my twinkie?

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Hey Candy!

Yeah... "Cuckoos Nest" was a fabulous movie.

I love the basketball scene... the fishing trip... when McMurphy tries to lift that heavy fountain and takes bets ("At least I tried")... when "the Chief" escapes... and on, and on... the whole movie is great!

McMurphy says to the warden:
"It seems I fight-n-f#ck too much"! LOL

McMurphy and Archie!
Two GREAT characters!

katie8753 said...

For Christ’s Sakes, isn’t there one of you fucking maniacs who knows what I’m talking about?

Ah come on, you’re not gonna say that now…you’re not gonna say THAT now…you’re gonna pull that henhouse shit now?

HA HA HA. Love Mister Mc-MUR-Phy.

katie8753 said...

One of my favorite scenes of this movie is at the beginning when McMurphy is feigning being nuts to get off the hook, and the board is interviewing him. He's looking at a deck of pornographic cards when one of the Board members asks him "Do you have any questions for us?"

His answer after flipping the card to be seen: "Where do you suppose I could get HER number?"


Doc Sierra said...
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Doc Sierra said...

Some of my favorite quotes. Nice shirt "Chezzaroo!". "You fucking mental defectives". "Am I crazy? You want me to take a shit on the floor?".

Doc Sierra said...

Nice shirt Chezzaroo!

Doc Sierra said...

Billy! You're 17 years old for Christ's sake. You shouldn't be in here. You should be out bird doggin' chicks and bangin' beaver!

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Here's the whole movie:

sunset77 said...

Last summer, several of us visited the former "Weston State Hospital" in Weston WV on motorcycles. It was once known as the "Trans Allegheny Lunatic Asylum". It was the largest hand cut stone building in North America, second only to the Kremlin in the world.

It was closed for "medicine" in 1995 I think.

Walter Freeman performed "ice pick" lobotomies there in 1952. This "medical treatment" consisted of inserting an ice pick through the side of a patients eye into their brain. The ice pick was then swished back and forth like a windshield wiper cutting brain connections. The patient often had to wear dark glasses afterwards because of black eyes.

Freeman lobotomized 25 women there in one day once. John Kennedy's sister was lobotomized, she remained an invalid till she died in 2004.

When I was there, our tour guide had started work there in 1967, (she was still there). I asked her if Walter Freeman had been there (I wasn't very familiar at the time). She said "DOCTOR FREEMAN!!" like I had said something wrong. She pointed out the building where Freeman did the lobotomies, it was the one with the bars on the windows, "on the first floor" she said.

Some of the ice picks and devices used for "eletro shock" were on display when I was there.

It was a creepy place, they film "paranormal" TV shows there now, looking for ghosts. There are many of these giant, spooky, abandoned asylums all over the US.

The best part of that place for me, was all the doors and gates were unlocked, having been in prison myself, that makes a WHOLE lot of difference.

A vid showing some of the abandoned "loony bin" in Weston can be seen HERE.

Anonymous said...

Goddammit Chief, "Cuckoo's Nest" IS a great movie.

And the documentary extras on the special edition, that Candy mentions, are excellent. ...I never knew they filmed in a real institution till i saw that.

And the place that Sunset mentions reminds me that I still need to check out Fred Wiseman's '67 doc "Titicut Follies". Which apparently shows the grim reality of a sixties mental institution.

Grim enough that the state of Massachusetts got an injunction against its release for 30 years.

...Has anyone here seen it?

These things make me wonder what experimental meds Mr Manson has been subject to over the years. Especially when you see his eyes in various prison interviews.

Anonymous said...

I am quite sure everyone knows that Ken Kesey took part in MK ultra experiments and was given Acid under observation in a Hospital. It was during that time and as a result of the people he met in those hospitals that produced the book this movie was based on....

did you know Keseys book was told from the story of the Indian? And- that he wanted Gene Hackman not Jack to play the starring role??

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Ah yes... shock therapy, hydrotherapy, and lobotomy.

That strange marble water fountain machine, which "the chief" ultimately rips from the floor (to accomplish his escape) was in the "hydro-therapy" room.
("Hydro" of course, means "water")

They would immerse patients in tubs of warm/hot water for hours... sometimes even over night... and sometimes even for days.

A "relative" of this "hydro" treatment, was "ice-packing".
(It involved being restrained "straight-jacket style" and wrapped head-to-toe in ice cold wraps).

Shock treatment was demonstrated in the movie, so I won't elaborate further... and "lobotomy" involved destroying the frontal lobe of the brain, through various techniques.

At any rate... it was all complete quackery.

One could easily write an entire book on the history of quackery in the mental health field... but, in a nutshell... here's what was happening:

Psychotropic medications began to hit the scene in the mid 1950's.

Prior to this time... there were no truly effective means for treating mental health patients.
The methods above (electro-shock, lobotomy, hydro-therapy, etc) could best be categorized as, idiots grabbing at straws.

The "asylums" were overflowing, because no one was being effectively treated.
The "quacks" were trying just about anything.

We were literally only a couple clicks away from euthanizing (killing) people.
Lobotomy is pretty close to euthanasia... maybe even a worse fate, actually.
(Relegating patients to life as a drooling vegetable, urinating on themselves, is not exactly a feat of science).

It's no small coincidence, that the "lobotomy" hit it's hey-day in the 1940's... began to slowly recede in popularity around 1955... and ultimately ended in the 60's.

In the mid-50's, modern neuroleptic (antipsychotic) medications began to emerge.

Bottom line:
Chlorpromazine hydrochloride (Thorazine) and Lithium, slowly ended all this quackery.
Thousands of patients (and would-be victims) owe their brains and lives to these medications.

Another great spin-off:
With the advent of these modern drugs... pattients were now able to be treated at home.
The "asylum" slowly became a less desperate environment, and over-crowded place.

I've visited the old "asylums" myself.
I've seen the barred windows, and the huge steel doors.
I've also seen the elaborate underground tunnel systems, which some asylums utilized to shuttle supplies, food, tools (and God knows what else) between buildings.
A sad time in medical history, to say the least.
"Man's inhumanity, to man", as it were...

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Saint is correct.

Ken Kesey took a job at an asylum, working third shift.
While there... he volunteered for drug experimentation, during the day.
Yes... he was a voluntary guinea pig.

While on these mind-altering drugs... Kesey actually saw (hallucinated) a huge indian, sweeping the floor, in one of the hallways.
That's precisely where the chief's character, came from.
That's the only "hallucinated" portion of the story.
The rest of the story, is taken directly from what Kesey actually observed and experienced, while working at the asylum.

Saint is correct...

In the book, "the chief" is the main character... not McMurphy.
Everything is observed through the eyes of 'the chief"... and narrated, as such.

It's been said, that Kesey was so pissed that "the chief's" role had been altered and minimized for the movie... that he never allowed himself to watch the movie, at all.
According to Kesey... he's never watched it.
I can't prove this to be true... but, I've read that so many places... I personally believe it.

I believe the movie producers made the right call.
It would have been very difficult to mold a movie as impactful as "Cuckoos nest", with a "narrative style".
(i.e., think about that old show "The Wonder Years" with Fred Savage.)
"The Chief" would have been "Fred Savage" in this case... narrating everything... and McMurphy's character would have been dramatically weakened.
Book ideas, don't always translate well, into movie ideas.
"First person" is the way to go, on-screen.

Anonymous said...

L/S- you might be interested to know that they just released the movie they finally made with all the film from the Further trips in Electric Kool Aid... also a few breif clips of Jerry Garcia playing at one of the the Acid tests at the end....

The Magic Trip....

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

Thanks Saint.

I REALLY DO have to watch that movie at some point.

I actually uploaded a copy of that movie onto the blog at one point.
Unfortunately, it was one of those "temporary membership" sites, which only allows a predetermined number of free views.

I'm so freakin' busy... by the time, I sat down to watch it... my readership had already exhausted the limited views. LOL

I hope someone enjoyed it anyway... LOL!

Anonymous said...

I get some of my info on the Manson Laurel Canyon connection from a site called Inside the L.C..... very interesting it covers the history of the area and Manson Family connections to it... it says the following about Jack which I think is interesting...

It is said that Nicholson was born at St. Vincent’s Hospital in New York City, but there is no record of such a birth at the hospital or in the city’s archives. As it turns out, Jack Nicholson has no birth certificate. Until 1954, by which time he was nearly an adult, he did not officially exist. Even today, the closest thing he has to a birth certificate is a ‘Certificate of a Delayed Report of Birth’ that was filed on May 24, 1954. The document lists John and Ethel Nicholson as the parents and identifies the location of the birth as the Nicholson’s home address in Neptune, New Jersey.
It appears then that there is no way to determine who Jack Nicholson really is. He has told journalists that he has no interest in identifying who his father was, nor, it would appear, in verifying his mother’s identity.

Anonymous said...

Last post-I wont hijack the post but this comes right before it and I should have included this it informs you who the people listed as his parents really were:

The next Young Turk up for review is the one who went on to become arguably the most acclaimed actor of his generation, Mr. Jack Nicholson. The following is a biographical sketch of Nicholson as presented by Wikipedia: “Bundy was born at the Elizabeth Lund Home for Unwed Mothers in Burlington, Vermont. The identity of his father remains a mystery … To avoid social stigma, Bundy’s grandparents Samuel and Eleanor Cowell claimed him as their son; in taking their last name, he became Theodore Robert Cowell. He grew up believing his mother Eleanor Louise Cowell to be his older sister. Bundy biographers Stephen Michaud and Hugh Aynesworth state that he learned Louise was actually his mother while he was in high school. True crime writer Ann Rule states that it was around 1969, shortly following a traumatic breakup with his college girlfriend.”

Uhhm … hang on a minute … I think I might have screwed up. Something doesn’t seem quite right, but I’m not exactly sure what …. Oh, shit! I see what I did wrong! I accidentally cut and pasted ‘serial killer’ Ted Bundy’s bio instead of Jack Nicholson’s. Sorry about that. This is how Jack’s bio is supposed to read: Nicholson was born at some indeterminate location to an underage, unwed showgirl. The identity of his father remains a mystery … To avoid social stigma, Nicholson’s grandparents John Joseph and Ethel Nicholson claimed him as their son; in taking their last name, he became John Joseph Nicholson, Jr. He grew up believing his mother June Francis Nicholson to be his older sister. Reporters state that he learned June was actually his mother in 1974, when he was 37 years old. By then, June had been dead for just over a decade, having only lived to the age of 44.

LynyrdSkynyrdBand said...

It seems Nicholson's lack of traditional parenting, didn't hurt him much.
The man is world-famous, and has made millions of dollars.

So much for Manson's over-used excuse...


starship said...

Yes indeed...'tis true about Nicholson and his mother...

And remember he was hanging around Laurel Canyon all during prime time, hanging out with the likes of Peter Fonda and the Monkees.

If he doesn't have a book out, he should work on one right quick.

maudes harold said...

I LOVED this movie and Jack Nicholson was amazing!! But, for aynone who has not read the book, you are missing out. The movie follows the book very closely, but imo, the real triumph of human spirit lies in the Chief's character.

Doc Sierra said...

ST. Circumstance said...
did you know Keseys book was told from the story of the Indian? And- that he wanted Gene Hackman not Jack to play the starring role??
I saw an interview with Kesey that was probably within a couple years of his passing. In the interview he stated that to this day he hasn't seen the movie because he didn't want to ruin what the story meant to him.

Doc Sierra said...

ST. Circumstance said...
L/S- you might be interested to know that they just released the movie they finally made with all the film from the Further trips in Electric Kool Aid... also a few breif clips of Jerry Garcia playing at one of the the Acid tests at the end....

The Magic Trip....
I highly recommend 'The Magic Trip'. I met and had conversations with Wavy Gravy twice. One time at the Whole Earth Festival at UC Davis and once at a Grateful Dead show at Cal Expo in Sacramento. At Cal Expo I was walking by and he asked me if I would help him talk to people to see if they would donate money for his Camp Winarainbow for disadvantaged kids. We sat and shot the breeze for about an hour. What a smart and nice man. I can only wish that my life had as much of a positive impact on society as his has. 'The Magic Trip', if I'm not mistaken tells of how hundreds of people in Asia and Africa are no longer blind due to the work of The Hog Farm, volunteer physicians, and many other volunteers. I feel very fortunate to have met and talked to him.

katie8753 said...

I've got 99 problems but the bitch aint one...

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Unknown said...

this ones for my friend jim in fla.

katie8753 said...

I accidentally published one of my drafts, then deleted it. Blush....

Unknown said...

S#it happens.
I almost deleted one of your drafts by accident once when I was trying to delete one of Mine...put the checkmark in the wrong box.
Luckily I looked before I hit the button.

katie8753 said...

Matt that's too funny. When I'm doing a draft I'm usually very careful to push the right button. Just got sloppy this morning. LOL.

katie8753 said...

I actually worked for a company years ago that the owner was a "born again pentecostal" and we actually had morning prayer on Mondays to start the week. Then he would pipe in the "elevator music" to calm us down.

Needless to say, it didn't really work. HA HA.